- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
@PoptartProdigy
If the underlined is true, how exactly did we manage to visit Jaron's house numerous times and never meet his little sister?
Dragon Ball: After the End
If the underlined is true, how exactly did we manage to visit Jaron's house numerous times and never meet his little sister?
[ ] No The moment isn't right just yet.
-[ ] Multiform:
-[ ] Grab him outside his home while Dandeer is in the Hall.
-[ ] Armor up. This shouldn't come to a fight, but if Dandeer gets sufficiently desperate or crazed, you want insurance.
-[ ] Send Miss Fren a message to get to the Hall. You want a media presence when you humble Dandeer and end this charade.
-[ ] Telepathy everything relevant during and since the sealing to both Berra and Fren. The real sealing story, Jaffur's awareness, Dandeer's lies, the full conspiracy, Jaron's suicidal tendencies, everything.
Do not grab him in the inevitably magically guarded area of her home. Preemptively break any of Berra's resistance with his foundational trait and the reality of the situation.
-[ ] Multiform:
-[ ] Grab him outside his home while Dandeer is in the Hall.
-[ ] Armor up. This shouldn't come to a fight, but if Dandeer gets sufficiently desperate or crazed, you want insurance.
-[ ] Send Miss Fren a message to get to the Hall. You want a media presence when you humble Dandeer and end this charade.
-[ ] Telepathy everything relevant during and since the sealing to both Berra and Fren. The real sealing story, Jaffur's awareness, Dandeer's lies, the full conspiracy, Jaron's suicidal tendencies, everything.
Do not grab him in the inevitably magically guarded area of her home. Preemptively break any of Berra's resistance with his foundational trait and the reality of the situation.
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- Location
- California
I see no reason we shouldn't just walk up to the house under the pretext of a surprise early morning training exercise. Then we just teleport away from the sentries and set the plan in motion.
Probably would also be best to use a Multiform charge to inform Fren and Maya as well, and probably even send one to be with Yammar and grandmother in case shit hits the fan before we can show back up.
Probably would also be best to use a Multiform charge to inform Fren and Maya as well, and probably even send one to be with Yammar and grandmother in case shit hits the fan before we can show back up.
"Surprise" sets off alarms, and I really, really don't think that we should risk engaging the world's preeminent sorceress on her literal home ground.
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- Location
- California
Hmm.
@PoptartProdigy are Jaron's training sessions usually scheduled, or more on the fly? Would it raise any alarm bells if we bring him to a surprise early morning session or something?
Just grab him on his way to school. She'll likely still be cut off in the Hall and any preparations are practically bound to be less potent while he's mobile.
- Location
- Italy
This one i like.
A note, though: we should take TWO royal armor if possible. One for us and one for Jaffur. Luckily we have a spare
Imagine: after the unsealing, we go the hall, Papata Fren ready, and in public view BOTH SCIONS enter, side by side, FPSSJ.
And behind them, both Apra and Yammar, FPSSJ as well. It will make a STRONG impression.
I would wait to contact/inform Berra at least until after we have taken Jaron though, or just minutes before it. Just to be sure. Also we should take a few senzu beans with us, we won't need to explain how we got them in a few hours.
Also, if we want to get Jaron outside, all we have to do is use telepathy and ask him to reach us wherever.
This one i like.
A note, though: we should take TWO royal armor if possible. One for us and one for Jaffur. Luckily we have a spare
Imagine: after the unsealing, we go the hall, Papata Fren ready, and in public view BOTH SCIONS enter, side by side, FPSSJ.
And behind them, both Apra and Yammar, FPSSJ as well. It will make a STRONG impression.
I would wait to contact/inform Berra at least until after we have taken Jaron though, or just minutes before it. Just to be sure. Also we should take a few senzu beans with us, we won't need to explain how we got them in a few hours.
Also, if we want to get Jaron outside, all we have to do is use telepathy and ask him to reach us wherever.
Royal armo- oh. I had assumed that armoring up was powering up and preparing for combat. Getting dressed up has connotations I haven't considered...
My assumption was that the clones would move to interrupt the moment Berra became aware that something was going down.
Telepathy may help, but if he breaks routine we risk setting off an alert. I'm inclined to trust Kakara to follow intent and competently plan based on IC details we don't have.
- Location
- California
I... you know, for some reason, I had assumed this was a weekend day, so as not to involve the complication of school in all this. Did I read that somewhere, or am I going mad?
I had exactly the same impression, but for the life of me don't know why. I can't imagine why the conspiracy wouldn't schedule the unsealing on a day when he wouldn't have a routine, predictable reason to leave the sorceress's lair without her company.
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Wiadi
Uncompromising Radical Leftist
- Location
- Something Clever
- Pronouns
- She/Her
No, it is in fact the weekend:
Well, that's just silly.
Wiadi
Uncompromising Radical Leftist
- Location
- Something Clever
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Potential explanation: given our vast conspiracy, and the fact that many of its members are liable to have Masqued lives in which they interact with the human populace, it might draw unwanted attention for them all to vanish from their daily routines on a weekday.
I have a really hard time imagining that being as serious a factor as missing the most promising grab-points. Basically all of the people participating in the initial snatch are either established hermits or already in hiding. I suppose it could be as simple as this being the very first day it was even theoretically possible, but I'd still expect somebody to point out, "Hey, we're basically engaging the most powerful witch on the planet on her literal home ground and cutting the expected response time at least in half by not waiting another day or two."
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- Location
- Australia
The biggest thing I reckon we need to worry about is dandeer posioning Bera against us, and directly challenging Bera weaking his position for clan centralisation.
So we better figure a way to inform him, so he can seem in control, but also would make him way too late to do anything about it
So we better figure a way to inform him, so he can seem in control, but also would make him way too late to do anything about it
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Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
- Location
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Pronouns
- He/his
Not kidnapping him while sleeping. Jaffur was a light sleeper, Jaron might be as well.
How about this: We have been hanging out with him every day this week so it is not suspicious for us to visit him on a saturday to train. Our usual training ground is near the Senzu hall so we can IT him close to itfor training without raising suspiscions and the observers would have to be far away to keep hiden from him. We can even tell him we willbe training ki sensing and ki hiding before we leave so that if the observers overhear and later stop sensing him, we get a bit more time for the double before they suspect.
Once we are in our training ground, we have four choices: Blackbag and telling the truth or lying to him in one of two ways: We can tell him there is actually a training facility of our people here and take him to the Senzuhall... or we take advantage of his slip up about the seal leakage. We reveal to him we are a Seer and that we have reason to believe he is either a seer or a sorcerer (from him reacting to our mind projection plus his comment this week making it click for us) then telling him we can confirm it now for sure. Tell him we had to ask some favors to test it since we are not supposed to tell people those exist and that we can test it now and we felt confident enough in our conclusion (seer instinct and all that) that we were willing to call those favors. Then rely on him feeling grateful, relieved and thinking it is a limited time offer to accept it quickly. Of course, this could backfire if it makes him uncomfortable but it is a start. Then, once inside the senzu castle (which, since it is hiden by magic, would lead credence to the existence of magic) we either explain things or keep the charade and use the magic mumbo jumbo of Dandelor while telling Jaron it is to test his magic.
I think the truth might be preferable bythat point.
We could also just bullshit and say we are fairly sure he is a person with two souls (true) and that there is a precedent for it (Launch) and want to test it.
How about this: We have been hanging out with him every day this week so it is not suspicious for us to visit him on a saturday to train. Our usual training ground is near the Senzu hall so we can IT him close to itfor training without raising suspiscions and the observers would have to be far away to keep hiden from him. We can even tell him we willbe training ki sensing and ki hiding before we leave so that if the observers overhear and later stop sensing him, we get a bit more time for the double before they suspect.
Once we are in our training ground, we have four choices: Blackbag and telling the truth or lying to him in one of two ways: We can tell him there is actually a training facility of our people here and take him to the Senzuhall... or we take advantage of his slip up about the seal leakage. We reveal to him we are a Seer and that we have reason to believe he is either a seer or a sorcerer (from him reacting to our mind projection plus his comment this week making it click for us) then telling him we can confirm it now for sure. Tell him we had to ask some favors to test it since we are not supposed to tell people those exist and that we can test it now and we felt confident enough in our conclusion (seer instinct and all that) that we were willing to call those favors. Then rely on him feeling grateful, relieved and thinking it is a limited time offer to accept it quickly. Of course, this could backfire if it makes him uncomfortable but it is a start. Then, once inside the senzu castle (which, since it is hiden by magic, would lead credence to the existence of magic) we either explain things or keep the charade and use the magic mumbo jumbo of Dandelor while telling Jaron it is to test his magic.
I think the truth might be preferable bythat point.
We could also just bullshit and say we are fairly sure he is a person with two souls (true) and that there is a precedent for it (Launch) and want to test it.
Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
- Location
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Pronouns
- He/his
The plan is to tell him after unsealing Jaffur. We had a chance to argue that we should tell him right before it when we moved the unsealing time table (my vote was for that iirc) but we decided in the end to keep the current plan. Kind of a shitty move to change it at the last second.
I think that we should go with the "we want to test him for innate talent" route I suggested above.We have enough evidence to tell him we are 99% sure he has one, we experienced similar effects before we trained ours (knowing things that we shouldn't subconsciously and having dreams we didn't remember) and we actually have a reason for the subterfuge: not only we don't want any observers from the aramaian government to know about sight and sorcery but we don't want any observers from the spirit warriors (there to check on a member of the royal family) because we are actually enemies with the strongest sorceress in the planet and she has enough political capital that if she learns Jaron has the gift she can either block his training or request she be the one who train him and considering her specialty is mind magic we don't trust her with him. Theone we are taking him to is the one sorcerer we trust would never cooperate with her or tell her about it.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
Don't want to use mutiform yet. I think we are going to need it later.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
You've met her, but never in detail.
This early? The sun hasn't yet risen. It would be quite unusual. Also Jaron would probably slam the door in your face. Sessions are generally on the fly, and Jaron gets a full and uninhibited check to beat Kakara in a Communication check saying that he wants to be a cave troll today and stay in his room instead.
The routine helps Dandeer as well. On Jaron's school days, he is under the eyes and senses of his mother's watchers for every second of every day, and if he deviates from his routine at all, some of the watchers vanish someplace instantly. Presumably, reporting. Nabbing Jaron mid-routine would make the response time instant.
- Location
- The Temple of the Winds
Can we just talk the sentries down ?
I mean, from <average vegetan guard>'s point of view, who are you going to want to obey? The universally hated Regeant that has you spying on your beloved but imprisoned Prince, or The Patriarch and the Princess with 110% public approval rating that want to free him?
Heck, why exactly are we doing this undercover ? It's not like we lack overwhelming prof by this point...
I mean, from <average vegetan guard>'s point of view, who are you going to want to obey? The universally hated Regeant that has you spying on your beloved but imprisoned Prince, or The Patriarch and the Princess with 110% public approval rating that want to free him?
Heck, why exactly are we doing this undercover ? It's not like we lack overwhelming prof by this point...
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- Location
- Dual citizen of SV&SB
Depends. Which one uses mind affecting magic?
- Location
- The Temple of the Winds
Well, obviously the mind magic isn't all powerful since she had to beat herself up instead of simply magically making Lord Goku believe her. Or the Vegeta Clan Patriarch.
Considering how Kakara broke out of the other worldwide mind magic spell i would guess that power levels, and/or SSJ, have a rather big effect on susceptibility.
Sir LagsAlot
Yandere Dice Magnet
- Location
- In the fridge
So then why would the vegetan guards be able to break out of it? From what we know none of them as SSJ.
