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Stop: I’m not angry I’m just disappointed
i'm not angry i'm just disappointed Let's try to take this from smallest to largest, shall we?

@Simon_Jester, these:

[Snip invective that I seem to recall being against forum rules]

See, I like how all the defenses of this kind of thing boil down to insulting the quest voters as idiots.

Were rather detrimental to the tone of the thread as a whole. They were small parts of your overall presence in this thread, however, and they amounted to very little compared to some of the other individuals in this thread, so on the whole you have simply received a 0-point infraction.

@Alectai, @paebel, @Carrnage, @EdinoiZ, your posts here:

What a surprise.

And it keeps hammering in that Dandeer is an idiot, which makes the players and literally everyone else in the universe dumber still for being outplayed by her at every turn.

So, yeah, no surprise that everything loses, because the heroes are just too skull splitting stupid to win even against a twelve year old.

At least I know for sure to write this quest off for well written trash now.

I'm mainly a lurker in this quest, and also incredibly salty, but I think the best plan is self-destructing and ashing the planet. Now that's out of the way, I feel like we have three paths before us here: raw spite (ashing the planet), something clever (that I suspect will fail for one reason or another), or just doing what the nice future version of us says.

Take Maya, the Senzus, and... how about that scout from the aliens, to tell us about the wider galaxy?

Major spoiler: vague hints in lieu of an explanation do not make conversations more constructive

I was going to try and leave a constructive comment here, but upon re-reading it I noticed that it quickly devolved into various bullshit things.

SO I am instead going to patiently wait for one of two things; the thread calming down; Poptart stopping by to provide that explanation. Have a great time, everyone!

Were detrimental to the tone of the thread, and as such run afoul of Rule 4. You each have received Staff Notices.

@KnightDisciple, this:

I'm just going to ignore the next 5+ pages of irrational salt and butthurt,

Was uncivil to the other users in this thread and detrimental to its tone to boot. You have received a Staff Notice for running afoul of Rules 3 and 4.

@Doomed Wombat, the attitude and tone of several of your earlier posts, best exemplified here:

Can I just reiterate my desire to leave?

Cause I really want to leave?

What has ever been here for Kakara? Responsibility she didn't ask for, judgemental ass-holes, uncomfortable veneration, the inability to do her own thing, the sins of the past constantly coming back to **** her over.

As far as I can see there were only three things keeping her on this scrap heap, her family, her friends and Jaffur, all three of which are about to be taken away so I say fuck this shit hole.

Lets leave.

Lets go find King Kai, learn interesting techniques, find a better seeing teacher, go to hell, shit if Freeza's down there lets go say hi, maybe he can teach us something.

Lets find the goddamned Namkekians and the dragon balls and wish Dandeer into a bloody fruit assortment.

This is a chance to finally be free of all these assholes and sins of the past!

@PoptartProdigy I'll be blunt I hated this entire arc knowing that it was going to end like this, I knew from the second Dandeer stick her fingers on Yammar and in effect rammed her hand up his backside to use as a puppet, you may deny this and yeah we might have been able to swing it around, but I have been resigned to it for a very long time now, but if this ends with us leaving this place, I'm perfectly fine with that.

When has it ever done anything for Kakara? When has it not been Kakara doing things for it?

Was detrimental to the tone of the thread at large. You have received a 0-point infraction and a 5-day threadban.

@deadcrystal your posts insisting that the matter that initiated this mess was unwinnable from the beginning and later initiating doomsaying about what is happening and what will happen next, examples of which I have linked to here, were phrased and put forward in a manner detrimental to the thread at large. You have received 25 points and a 5 day threadban for violating Rule 4.

@fictionfan these two posts that abruptly proclaimed the whole affair to have been designed to not be winnable, despite the QM's own statements and all prior evidence in the quest contributed to the rapidly-declining tone of the thread. You have received 25 points and a 5 day threadban for violating Rule 4.

@Varano, while it may or may not have been intended as humorous, proposing using an option that would relatively certainly bad-end the quest, when many people were actively discussing using that option explicitly to bad-end the quest, like you did in your post here was detrimental to the tone of the thread. You have received 25 points and a 5 day threadban for violating Rule 4.

@ShadowAngelBeta in your posts, one can see you first actively disparaging the quest here while the thread was rapidly continuing its downward spiral here, contributing to the lowering of the tone in the thread; and then here and here your insisting that the thread was not engaging in rule-breaking material when it rather plainly was, enabling and egging on its descent. This violates Rule 4, and you have received 25 points and a 5 day threadban.

@Gamerlord in addition to an instance of the behavior that has lowered the tone of the thread, this post here has you misgendering @PoptartProdigy. You have participated in this thread long enough that you should have had ample time to learn their preferred pronouns and this is not the first instance of you misgendering someone. You have received 25 points and a 5 day threadban for violating Rules 3 & 4.

@Laundreu, this is your second post in this thread after you had initially claimed to be leaving the thread, and in addition to continuing to throw out arguments phrased in a way that can be hardly anything but deleterious to the tone of the thread you seemingly are continuing to use your claim of leaving the thread as a sort of rhetorical device to defend yourself from having to actually debate or argue your statements. Hopefully your two-month threadban will be long enough for you to decide whether you truly wish to leave the thread or not. You have also received 25 points for violating Rule 4.

@jamie96969, you have made at least seven malicious uses of the "Funny" rating; it is theoretically possible that there are more that I have missed. In any case, for this flagrant misuse of the rating I have given you 50 points for violating Rule 3 and I have revoked your rating privileges for the next 14 days. I will also be deleting the malicious "Funny" ratings you made that I have found.

@NavySeel, your posts, examples of which I have linked here, have contributed significantly to the lowering of the tone in this thread. You have received 50 points and a 7 day threadban for violating Rule 4.

@chryssalideater, across the course of this thread you have engaged in behavior that has lowered the tone of this thread and in frankly uncivil behavior towards @PoptartProdigy. I have included links to an example of each here. You have also maliciously used the "Funny" rating. You have accordingly received 50 points for violating Rule 3 and Rule 4 and you have received a 7 day threadban.

@odin lowe, it appears that you have made roughly two posts in this thread since the thread's downward spiral began. Unfortunately, both violated the rules. This post violated Rule 2 by being a blatant violent revenge fantasy, and this post violated Rule 4 by utterly mischaracterizing @PoptartProdigy 's position. As that is all of your contribution to the thread, you have received 50 points and a 7 day threadban. Please note that while both posts contain entirely separate rule violations, for the sake of convenience the sum total of the infraction is being appended to the most recent of the two posts.

@anailater, the sum total of your recent posts in this thread - some examples of which I have included here - has consisted of Rule 4 violations through mischaracterizing @PoptartProdigy 's statements and generally disrupting and lowering the tone of the thread. As such you have received 50 points and a 14 day threadban.

@gamer50018, you have violated Rule 2 with this post, Rule 3 in this post and through multiple malicious uses of the "Funny" rating, and you have violated Rule 4 many, many times across the recent course of the thread - I have included some examples here. As such you have received 75 points and a 16 day threadban. As in one of the above cases, please note that while you have three distinct aspects to this infraction for the sake of convenience the sum of the infraction has been applied to your most recent rule-breaking post.


and while i'm here @Lailoken, your behavior here has been generally acceptable, but some of your rhetoric has gotten somewhat inflammatory. Please tone down the vitriol in your responses, and you'll be golden here.


official staff communication The thread is now unlocked. Please take note that if the general behaviors that led to the thread lock resume with this unlock, or if those who were temporarily threadbanned resume the behavior which they were threadbanned for once they return to this thread, more severe action will be taken as is necessary.

That will be all. Thank you for your time, and please have a pleasant day~
 
Stop: Hello again pardon me
hello again pardon me @gamer50018, between your tagging multiple users voting in ways you disagreed with to pester them, one post at a time, this thing, and your general flipping out over this vote and quest, you have violated Rule 4. As such you have also received 25 points and a two-week threadban. Please do not continue this behavior when you return.
 
Stop: Don't mind me, just doing a thing.
we interrupt this vote for a quick announcement I feel like everyone that participates should understand that there are times where you will more than likely be discontent with the overall results or course of action chosen by the majority. And that's perfectly fine; we don't expect everyone to not express some form of saltiness from time to time.

But when that saltiness turns into frequent attacks against the QM, constant disruptions of the thread, and the cultivation of an overall antagonistic relationship between the QM and multiple other participants, well, that's where I have to put my foot down.

So! With that in mind, @gamer50018 has been removed from the thread until further notice. As for everyone else, please make the attempt to stay cordial with each other and the QM. I get that things will get heated at times, but there's always a better alternative to lashing out at others when you're frustrated.
 
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