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MrHobbit said:
Tom was willing to help Celena because she had a prophecy dealing with Star. None of the Mewnian occult have a connection to Star like that.

This is, by definition, a waste of an action and will almost certainly piss off Tom, who already absolutely does not trust us in any way whatsoever.
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I think you might be mixing Tom up with Marco. We've got a pretty decent relationship with Tom. And it seems pretty clear to draw a line between bigger magical firepower and finding Star/stopping Toffee
 
Dougal La Mancha, if I remember correctly, is suspected of being an alias for the Phantom Blot.

Edit: Dougal is 'Dark Stranger' and La Mancha is 'Spot or Stain'.
 
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Mojave said:
I think you might be mixing Tom up with Marco. We've got a pretty decent relationship with Tom. And it seems pretty clear to draw a line between bigger magical firepower and finding Star/stopping Toffee
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We do not have a decent relationship with Tom. Janna has a decent relationship. Marco is willing to do as we ask if we pay him money, which helps him find Star/murder Toffee.

All this is a waste of time. Hell, he could spend that time summoning Celena, who is a proven source of Star-related information, and ask her for more info.

Made in Heaven said:
It doesn't need to be strictly touching the Star Vs continuity, but it has to reasonably be argued that it could assist in finding Star, Marco, and/or possibly murdering Toffee. Asking him to go on related quests would probably work. Trying to argue that your new dinosaur park will totally help him find Star isn't gonna cut it. Tom isn't an idiot and would be able to see through whatever flimsy argument you presented.
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Made in Heaven said:
Tom is not going to trust you when he starts out. He has no reason to, and Janna's suggestions would only go so far. It'll be very rare that you'll find a hero unit pre-loaded with high loyalty.
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BurnBright said:
Added a few things on the end. Also, is he in LA? I know he helped, but I thought he lived elsewhere?
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Yeah, he's an LA business owner, or was before his business was shut down. I'm fine making all those changes, although we'd have a better chance of this plan succeeding if we joined forces on it. Are there other changes you'd want in order for you to modify your plan to be in line with mine?

If so, I'd be happy to work with you to combine our voters. This might be an easier convo to have on the Discord if you're there
 
bLuewErewOlf25 said:
Dougal La Mancha, if I remember correctly, is suspected of being an alias for the Phantom Blot.
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That was debunked iirc

MrHobbit said:
We do not have a decent relationship with Tom. Janna has a decent relationship. Marco is willing to do as we ask if we pay him money, which helps him find Star/murder Toffee.

All this is a waste of time. Hell, he could spend that time summoning Celena, who is a proven source of Star-related information, and ask her for more info.
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Tom doesn't get a +20 bonus to doing that.
 
MrHobbit said:
wtf


It would help your cause if you didn't make blatantly incorrect claims like that.
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Honest mistake, sorry about that. It's getting hard to have this conversation in good faith. I hope you can trust that I'm not trying to deceive anyone.

Either way, permanent hands-on magical help is pretty obviously more beneficial to the goal of finding Star than temporary hands-off magical help
 
[X] Plan: Janna's Training Montage and a Few Other Things

Since my plan has no traction I'm going to switch to the plan which avoids another pointless fight and gets Janna to actually learn magic.
 
Looking at the plans thus far, I favour the first, despite some of the the personal, but the second seems like a good backup
[X] Plan: Recovery: Revised
[] Plan: Dinosaur King Is What You Wanna Be (Yeah!)

edit: I'll switch if it changes later
 
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Shade31415 said:
[X] Plan: Dinosaur King Is What You Wanna Be (Yeah!)
[X] Plan: Janna's Training Montage and a Few Other Things
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Nystical said:
[X] Plan: I Got Friends On The Other Side
[X] Plan: Dinosaur King Is What You Wanna Be (Yeah!)
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WorthyAlchemist? said:
[X] Plan: I Got Friends On The Other Side
[X] Plan: Branching Out and Poking Around

I just don't want to ignore the transmission anymore.
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ReaperofInterest said:
[X] Plan: Janna's Training Montage and a Few Other Things
[X] Plan: Recovery: Revised

Both of these plans look good. Hopefully they'll get Lovemuffin to calm down some.
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The Richmaster said:
Looking at the plans thus far, I favour the first, despite some of the the personal, but the second seems like a good backup
[X] Plan: Recovery: Revised
[X] Plan: Dinosaur King Is What You Wanna Be (Yeah!)
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Apparently Approval Voting is not allowed, so that'll have to be changed. Unfortunately, I have a feeling this is going to hurt my plan, lol.
 
Oh! Well, crap. Okay then, that's certainly going to change the landscape for this.

@BurnBright Marco or Tom seems to be missing a personal action, as there is only one "Search for Star" action included without any of either boy's other options.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Stratagemini on Feb 23, 2021 at 1:23 PM, finished with 220 posts and 24 votes.
  • [X] Plan: Janna's Training Montage and a Few Other Things
    -[X] National Actions:
    —[X][Martial] Upgrade Norm Prime (Wendy Wower)
    —[X][Diplomacy] Form a Research Agreement with the Zaibatzu (Goofy)
    —[X][Diplomacy] Try to Collaborate with Olympia on an Issue (Mirage)
    —[X][Stewardship] Restore DoofOS Security (Alan Bradley)
    —[X][Stewardship] Dinosaur Entertainment (Roddy Blair)
    —[X][Intrigue] Investigate the Death of Alonso Hawk (Russ)
    —[X][Intrigue] Investigate Orton Mahlson (Tobe)
    —[X][Learning] Large Herbivore Domestication (Janus Lee)
    —[X][Learning] Study the SHV 20905 Plans (Wasabi)
    —[X][Occult] Study Dance Magic (Juniper)
    -[X] Nemesis Actions:
    —[X] Get a restraining order
    -[X] Personal Actions:
    —[X] Doofenshmirtz
    —-[X] Tinker with your Inators
    —-[X] Chat with the Bossman (Alan Bradley)
    —-[X] Clean out Your Rolodex
    —-[X] Hire the Dickens Detective Agency (Large)
    ——[X] Spy on your employees
    —[X] Study science and technology
    —[X] Personally oversee ACME product testing
    —[X] Reorganize OWCA
    —[X] Try to become a Real Boy
    —[X] Train
    —[X] Psychoanalyze
    —-[X] LOVE MUFFIN
    —[X] Retake the SAT
    —[X] Study magic with Feldrake
    —[X] Study odd scrolls
    —[X] Repair the Martian Robot
    —[X] Hang out with Janna
    —[X] Train Janna
    —[X] Search for Star
    —[X] Study the Mad Mojo Cookbook.
    -[X] LOVE MUFFIN:
    —[X] Perform Mad SCIENCE!
    -[X] Don't Overclock Technor
    -[X] Activate an Inator
    [X] Plan: Dinosaur King Is What You Wanna Be (Yeah!)
    -[X] National Actions:
    --[X][Martial] Assault a rival (Mark Beaks) (Kitsune) (CoS: ???+49)
    --[X][Diplomacy] Try to Collaborate With Olympia on an Issue (TECHNOR) (CoS: ???+38)
    --[X][Diplomacy] Open diplomatic channels with the US Government (Goofy) (CoS: 46%, 56% w/ XP)
    --[X][Stewardship] Restore DoofOS Security (Alan Bradley) (CoS: 34%, 44% w/ XP)
    --[X][Stewardship] Dinosaur Entertainment (Roddy Blair, King of Lairs) (CoS: 82%, 92% w/ XP)
    --[X][Intrigue] Investigate the Death of Alonso Hawk (Agent Russ) (CoS: 51%, 61% w/ XP)
    --[X][Intrigue] Infiltrate a Hotspot: New York (Mirage) (CoS: 48%, 58% w/ XP)
    --[X][Learning] Large Herbivore Domestication (Janus Lee) (CoS: 74%, 84% w/ XP)
    --[X][Learning] Study the SHV 20905 Plans (Wasabi) (CoS: 71%, 81% w/ XP)
    --[X][Learning] Research exotic vehicles (L.O.V.E.M.U.F.F.I.N.) (CoS: 66%, 76% w/ XP)
    --[X][Occult] Study Dance Magic (Juniper) (CoS: ???+19)
    -[X] Personal Actions:
    --[X] Doof:
    ---[X] Tinker with your Inators
    ---[X] Clean out Your Rolodex
    ---[X] Chat with the Bossman: Alan Bradley
    ---[X] Activate Automatic Potion Brewer
    --[X] Major Francis Monogram (Reorganize OWCA (189/250))
    --[X] Wile E. Coyote, Genius (Set up a trap)
    --[X] Genghis Khan (Study science and technology (107/200))
    --[X] Norm Prime (End your obsession with platypodes)
    --[X] Hego (Train)
    --[X] Vanessa (Retake the SAT)
    --[X] Janna Ordonia (Study the Manual of Witchcraft and Alchemy)
    --[X] Dr. Jumba Jookiba (Study odd scrolls)
    --[X] Ludivine von Drake (Repair the Martian Robot)
    --[X] Queen Lizzie (Work on excavation tech)
    --[X] Tobe and the Vagabond Ninja (Train with Maui Mallard)
    --[X] Wendy Wower (Study Kronos AI)
    --[X] Tom Lucitor (Rule the Underworld)
    --[X] Malifishmertz (Study the Mad Mojo Cookbook)
    --[X] Marco Diaz (Train with Macbeth)
    -[X] Nemesis Actions:
    --[X] Max (Hit the gym)
    -[X] Item Assignments:
    --[X] Ruby Wings: Agent Russ
    --[X] Jī Talisman: Agent Russ
    --[X] Potion of Fire Breath: Kitsune
    -[X] Miscellaneous:
    --[X] Don't Overclock TECHNOR
    --[X] Activate an Inator
    [X] Plan: Recovery: Revised
    -[X] National Actions:
    --[X][Martial] Assault a rival (Mark Beaks, Infiltrate his company and sabotage his offices into unusability) (Kitsune) (+49)
    --[X][Diplomacy] Open diplomatic channels with the US Government (Goofy) (61% w/ XP)
    --[X][Diplomacy] Form a Research Agreement with the Olympia (Mirage) (90% w/ XP)
    --[X][Stewardship] Restore DoofOS Security (Alan Bradley) (49% w/ XP)
    --[X][Stewardship] Dinosaur Entertainment (Janus Lee) (79% w/ XP)
    --[X][Intrigue] Investigate the Death of Alonso Hawk (Agent Russ) (66% w/ XP)
    --[X][Intrigue] Investigate the San Fransokyo Cult (Queen Lizzie) (+36)
    --[X][Learning] Study the SHV 20905 Plans (Wasabi) (99% w/ XP)
    --[X][Learning] Research Silphium (Dr. Jumba Jookiba) (CoS: 99%, 99% w/ XP)
    --[X][Occult] Study Dance Magic (Juniper) (+19)
    --[X][Learning] Perform Mad Science (L.O.V.E.M.U.F.F.I.N.) (+50)
    --[X][Intrigue] Spy on your employees (Dickens Detective Agency (Large))
    -[X] Personal Actions:
    --[X] Doof:
    ---[X] Start writing a musical (91/200)
    ---[X] Tinker with your Inators
    ---[X] Do some introspection about Norm
    ---[X] Hire the Dickens Detective Agency (Large)
    --[X] Major Francis Monogram (Reorganize OWCA (150/250))
    --[X] Wile E. Coyote, Genius (Set up a trap)
    --[X] Genghis Khan (Study science and technology (64/200))
    --[X] Norm Prime (End your obsession with platypodes)
    --[X] Hego (Train)
    --[X] TECHNOR (Psychoanalyze: L.O.V.E.M.U.F.F.I.N.)
    --[X] Vanessa (Get involved at school)
    --[X] Janna Ordonia (Study the Manual of Witchcraft and Alchemy)
    --[X] Tobe and the Vagabond Ninja (Study the Mad Mojo Cookbook)
    --[X] Tom Lucitor (Rule the Underworld (0/3))
    --[X] Malifishmertz (Tend your goozim menagerie)
    --[X] Marco Diaz (Train with the Vagabonds)
    --[X] Wendy Wower (Upload more on Buzztube)
    --[X] Roddy Blair (Design a Lair for Janna)
    -[X] Item Assignments:
    --[X] Ruby Wings: Kitsune
    --[X] Jī Talisman: Agent Russ
    --[X] Amur: Janna
    --[X] Potion of Fire Breath: Kitsune
    --[X] Yáng Talisman-Dream: Agent Russ
    --[X] : Agent Russ
    -[X] Quests:
    -[X] Nemesis:
    --[X] Max: Hit the Gym (Personal)
    -[X] Miscellaneous:
    --[X] Don't Overclock TECHNOR
    --[X] Activate an Inator
    [X] Plan: I Got Friends On The Other Side
    -[X] Martial: Assault a Rival (Kitsune)
    --[X] Mark Beaks
    ---[X] Send Kitsune to torment the poor guy. That's what cats do, right? Torment birds? Yielding to Kitsune's artistic genius of course, but I was thinking something like Nightmare at 20,000 Feet with Kitsune taking the time to slowly drive Beaks into insanity.
    -[X] Diplomacy: Open Diplomatic Channels with the US Government (Goofy) 46% chance of success
    -[X] Diplomacy (Write-in): Reach out to Dougal La Mancha about sponsoring a bid for mayoral candidacy (Mirage)
    -[X] Stewardship: Restore DoofOS Security (Alan Bradley) 35% chance of success
    -[X] Stewardship: Dino Entertainment (Roddy Blair) - this assumes it counts as large construction 88% chance of success
    -[X] Intrigue: Investigate the Death of Alonso Hawk (Agent Russ) 55% chance of success
    -[X] Intrigue: Investigate Hotspot (Tobe) 59% chance of success
    --[X]Florida
    -[X] Learning: Decode Odd Transmissions (Ludivine Von Drake)
    -[X] Learning: Research Shiva Laser (Queen Lizzy)
    -[X] Occult: Search for Magical Individuals USING NECROMANCY! (Tom Lucitor) - I'm super excited about this one 58% chance of success
    -[X] Nemesis Action: Hit the gym
    -[X] Personal Attention
    --[X] Restore DoofOS Security
    -[X] Chat with Bossman
    --[X] Alan Bradley
    —[X] Study science and technology
    -[X] Look through ACME Records
    —[X] Reorganize OWCA
    —[X] Try to become a Real Boy
    —[X] Train
    -[X] Build Giant Robot Legs
    -[X] Watch the Eggheads
    -[X] Study the Manual of Witchcraft and Alchemy
    -[X] Experiment! (Honestly, I just really want to see what this does)
    -[X] Offer Beginner Science Lessons
    -[X] Get to know Co-Workers
    -[X] Obsessively Check San Fransokyo Cape News
    -[X] Train with Macbeth
    —[X] Study the Mad Mojo Cookbook.
    -[X] Meet your co-workers
    -[X] Research Interdimensional Travel
    -[X] Don't
    -[X] Yes
    [X] Plan: Branching Out and Poking Around
    -[X] National
    --[X][Martial] Assault a Rival (Kitsune)
    ---[X] Mark Beaks
    ----[X] Severely inconvenience in dozens of different and crazy ways, maybe steal some of his stuff?
    --[X][Diplomacy] Form a Research Agreement with Olympia (Mirage)
    --[X][Diplomacy] Form a Research Agreement with Xanatos (Goofy)
    --[X][Stewardship] Restore DoofOS Security (Alan Bradley)
    --[X][Stewardship] Dinosaur Entertainment (Roddy Blair)
    --[X][Intrigue] Investigate the Death of Alonso Hawk (Agent Russ)
    --[X][Intrigue] Investigate a hot spot (Tobe)
    ---[X] Zootopia
    --[X][Learning] Study the SHV 20905 Plans (Wasabi)
    --[X][Learning] Decode Odd Transmissions (Wendy Wower)
    --[X][Occult] Study Dance Magic (Juniper)
    -[X] Personal
    --[X] Doof:
    ---[X] Hire the Dickens Detective Agency (Large)
    ----[X] Spy on your employees
    ---[X] Tinker with your Inators
    ---[X] Clear out your Rolodex
    ---[X] Chat with the Bossman
    ----[X] Alan Bradley
    --[X] Genghis Khan
    ---[X] Study Science and Technology
    --[X] Wile E. Coyote
    ---[X] Look through ACME's records
    --[X] Francis Monogram
    ---[X] Reorganize OWCA
    --[X] Norm Prime
    ---[X] Try to become a real boy
    --[X] Hego
    ---[X] Train
    --[X] TECHNOR
    ---[X] Psychoanalyze: LOVEMUFFIN
    --[X] Vanessa
    ---[X] Retake the SAT
    --[X] Janna
    --- [X] Study the Manual of Witchcraft and Alchemy
    --[X] Dr. Jumba Jookiba
    ---[X] Talk with fellow evil scientists
    --[X] Ludivine von Drake
    ---[X] Repair the Martian Robot
    --[X] Queen Lizzy
    ---[X] Build backup tunnels
    --[X] Janus Lee
    ---[X] Work on Personal Projects
    --[X] Tom Lucitor
    ---[X] Rule the Underworld
    --[X] Marco Diaz
    ---[X] Train with Macbeth
    --[X] Malifishmirtz
    ---[X] Study the Mad Mojo Cookbook
    -[X] Nemesis:
    --[X] Max (Personal)
    ---[X] Hit the Gym
    -[X] Items
    --[X] Potion of Fire Breath: Kitsune
    --[X] Ruby Wings: Agent Russ
    -[X] Miscellaneous:
    —-[X] LOVE MUFFIN
    ---[X] Research extradimensional tech
    --[X] Activate an Inator
    --[X] Don't Overclock TECHNOR
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@Kingster I made an error in my original post and forgot to put an X on the Jumba action, can you edit your post to come in line with the fixed version?
 
BurnBright said:
Apparently Approval Voting is not allowed, so that'll have to be changed. Unfortunately, I have a feeling this is going to hurt my plan, lol.
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MrHobbit said:
Here is the quote if anyone is wondering.

There really isn't proof that MiH has changed his mind since.
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Unfortunate.

[X] Plan: Recovery: Revised

I'll go with this one for now, on the basis that it has Kitsune target Mark Beaks. What can I say, I'm feeling petty.
 
Alright, Made in Heaven has ruled on various DCs in the Discord.

Harrassing Beaks would be DC 100
Messing with his office would be DC 140
While doing him actual damage would have a much higher DC

Reaching out to Dougal la Mancha for Mayor would have DC ??? and it is highly likely to not do anything at all.
 
Hey @BurnBright it probably won't matter but you are still voting for Dinosaur King Is What You Wanna Be (Yeah!) in your plan post (I doubt they throw away the vote of the plan maker but better safe than sorry)
 
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