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Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

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Walliseatscheese said:
a "Bounded Field" which is basically a magical effect anchored to a location rather than an item or cast as a spell.
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Not always. Kiritsugu for instance uses time alter which is a bounded field. Emiya Alter uses an innate bounded field(aka a reality marble) through the use of whats implied to be an origin bullet. Nrvnqsr Chaos manifests their reality marble in their body. I believe there's quite a few noble phantasms that are also bounded fields like Avalon, and Invisible Air.

Edit: There's also Rokudou Kyoukai which is explicitly an exception to the rule, but Souren Araya is pretty much a magician in terms of bounded fields.
 
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yoduda said:
Not always. Kiritsugu for instance uses time alter which is a bounded field. Emiya Alter uses an innate bounded field(aka a reality marble) through the use of whats implied to be an origin bullet. Nrvnqsr Chaos manifests their reality marble in their body. I believe there's quite a few noble phantasms that are also bounded fields like Avalon, and Invisible Air.

Edit: There's also Rokudou Kyoukai which is explicitly an exception to the rule, but Souren Araya is pretty much a magician in terms of bounded fields.
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Well yeah, Bounded Feild's Location isn't necessarily fixed. Kiritsugu's bounded field extends around his body and his body alone, iirc. If a bullet were to enter his body, it would accelerate in time with him.
 
I feel that it would be a good idea for Joe to write down a list of reminders for the next time one of his mom's winged monkeys tries to browbeat him. Because he has a hard time remembering his conclusions during such events.
 
Rem Freeman said:
On a completely different subject, I went to check out the reference document for the BCF perks, and I noticed what I think is a new tab for the Personal Reality Constellation. Is this new, or has it always been there and I've just been blind? Either way, are these perks that Joe can get?
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Lord is considering adding Personal Reality perks as the second replacement constellation. He may ultimately decide against it and the final list of perks may be different than my guess in that doc.
MagicalAmbitions said:
I was specifically asking in the context of the post I was quoting but thanks anyways. I haven't finished Ward yet so /shrug
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Ah, sorry. In case you didn't figure it out I'm pretty sure that user was asking whether the Alpha Vehicle's location is Shardspace, which it is.
 
LordRoustabout said:
I was in an akashic record, an account of all history achievement where the greatest examples of humanity were recorded. Where they were saved, beyond and through the reach of time.

I was there, in the records of paramount achievement, in the place above all others, the throne of the heroes of earth, but I wasn't just there. That place, or this place, depending on how tense could even work under these situations, was eternal. It wasn't a sequential set of recordings. Anything written into it was present throughout all of history. Records of heroes existed at the same time they were being written.
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So...how long till Hero and other famous Parahumans get summoned? Because that's my take away from this segment.
 
The Shallow said:
Well yeah, Bounded Feild's Location isn't necessarily fixed. Kiritsugu's bounded field extends around his body and his body alone, iirc. If a bullet were to enter his body, it would accelerate in time with him.
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I wasn't really commenting on these being examples of moveable bounded fields. They essentially aren't. They have a fixed space that they separate from the outside. The frame of refference doesn't change. They're really more examples of how they aren't tied to what you'd normally consider a location. Except the last one, but Souren Araya is one of the few exceptions. There's probably some other exceptions though, this being the nasuverse.
Invisible Air was also an example of a bounded field being tied to an item and pretty much just being a spell Merlin cast.

Edit: huh, what do you know. Invisible Air isn't tied to Excalibur at all, but rather the pressurized air. Avalon or Rho Aias(actually, I have no clue what that's tied to) would be the better example here.
 
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yoduda said:
I wasn't really commenting on these being examples of moveable bounded fields. They essentially aren't. They have a fixed space that they separate from the outside. The frame of refference doesn't change. They're really more examples of how they aren't tied to what you'd normally consider a location. Except the last one, but Souren Araya is one of the few exceptions. There's probably some other exceptions though, this being the nasuverse.
Invisible Air was also an example of a bounded field being tied to an item and pretty much just being a spell Merlin cast.
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I suppose you are correct, in that Bounded Feilds aren't necessarily bound to physical locations, but that was what I was trying to say when I said that the position isn't fixed, although looking back not very clearly at all. From my understanding, Bounded Feilds are at their nature just a field of separation, they can be connected to anything, for example Reality Marbles are innate Bounded Feilds projected outward, or for another Kiritsugu's personal time feild.
 
The Shallow said:
Well, Ask and Ye Shall Receive
But as funny as the idea is, I had to play with the roles a bit.
The Enigmas
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I liked it.
But (of course there's a but) I'm afraid you missed the most basic implication of Ape-Iron and Crew showing up as Scooby Gang. The one that made me immediately go "Oh fuck!" when I read the suggestion.

What is it that the Scooby Gang does? Well, in the most general sense they catch villains, which would be a bad enough massage to make at a Villain meet. In a more specific way they catch and unmask Villains and expose the the how's and why's of their operation(s).
Going to a Supervillain meet-up and boldly announce that you are planning to go after their secret identity is a effective way of declaring total war...
 
MDK said:
I liked it.
But (of course there's a but) I'm afraid you missed the most basic implication of Ape-Iron and Crew showing up as Scooby Gang. The one that made me immediately go "Oh fuck!" when I read the suggestion.

What is it that the Scooby Gang does? Well, in the most general sense they catch villains, which would be a bad enough massage to make at a Villain meet. In a more specific way they catch and unmask Villains and expose the the how's and why's of their operation(s).
Going to a Supervillain meet-up and boldly announce that you are planning to go after their secret identity is a effective way of declaring total war...
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Probably put them on edge, but as long as he didn't imply that he was planning on it I think it would just leave them tense and confused. Then again, it's not gonna happen, was just a hypothetical.
 
MDK said:
I liked it.
But (of course there's a but) I'm afraid you missed the most basic implication of Ape-Iron and Crew showing up as Scooby Gang. The one that made me immediately go "Oh fuck!" when I read the suggestion.

What is it that the Scooby Gang does? Well, in the most general sense they catch villains, which would be a bad enough massage to make at a Villain meet. In a more specific way they catch and unmask Villains and expose the the how's and why's of their operation(s).
Going to a Supervillain meet-up and boldly announce that you are planning to go after their secret identity is a effective way of declaring total war...
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the clothes you wear can make a statement, but "cosplaying as Mystery Inc = announcing you intend to go after secret identities" is ridiculous. Why? because they're just Investigators. they solve mysteries. They unmask villains because "villain in a mask" is the solution to most of the mysteries they encounter. Dressing up as Mystery Inc. with your cape team is far more a statement of "We're gonna solve mysteries" than "We intend to violate the social conventions of cape life".
 
Sterlyn said:
Better, it repaired itself in shardspace, The Adventures of Shard-Space Knight Fleet begins!
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Exactly! An item's repair is centered around the largest part and the motoroid wasn't atomized, it was transported to Shard Space with March when rabbit girl cracked its core with her Omni-dimensional attack. Joe now has a homing beacon on one instance of the Entity Shards and that foot in the door is gonna open up a plethora of research and analysis options. This is the kind of thing that eventually leads to blocking Shard signals at the very least.
 
The Shallow said:
One thing I thought of if you want to lean into the Greek imagery is going with Athenadora for Survey, and Hermedoros for Fleet. I think that's how it would be? Means Gift of Athena and Gift of Hermes respectively, if I'm not being stupid.
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Kybernḗtēs could also work for a Cape Name for Fleet. It literally means Helmsman and comes from kybernētikḗ, which we'd be more familiar with the English transliteration "Cybernetic". It implies the link between Fleet and the machines, while reinforcing both that he's a driver and his apparent technokinesis, or "Governing"(kybernáō) of vehicles. And yes, kybernáō also relates to piloting craft.
 
FourmyleOfCeres said:
Kybernḗtēs could also work for a Cape Name for Fleet. It literally means Helmsman and comes from kybernētikḗ, which we'd be more familiar with the English transliteration "Cybernetic". It implies the link between Fleet and the machines, while reinforcing both that he's a driver and his apparent technokinesis, or "Governing"(kybernáō) of vehicles. And yes, kybernáō also relates to piloting craft.
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I honestly love that. Wish I knew more as to come up with something creative like that for Survey.
 
"The way Dauntless's power works is in a kind of complex energy pattern attached to items. I can do something similar. But different." I added quickly as I saw his expression. "Not glowing white, and it doesn't take months of buildup, but I can do similar things. I can make normal items that have abilities attached to them."
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I just realized that Joe explained it to Campbell like he had a 'Dauntless' like power. Like that he actually had Dauntless power and tweaked it so he could do that. I know he earlier said that he randomly got powers but it could be so that Campbell thought that this is a tweaked and copied Dauntless power.

About Workshop Team's cape names, Survey, Fleet and Matrix already has one. It's only Tetra that would need to have one. Just like Fleet noted that Joe's designed name is Apeiron, is Fleet's name Fleet. They can create civilian identities like Survey's if they want to hit the street so to speak. If they actually create more cape IDs to them then Joe would have to difference between Survey and Panoptes depending on situation and who is listening in. No need to create different cape names when they are already in so called cape life. It's far easier to just have Survey create a other module for her voice. Just in case people can detect Dalphie's voice from her.

That said, I wonder what team name they will have. They will arrive with so many capes that people will want to have a public team name just like the other cape groups.
 
I feel like going for something understated would be best in terms of a team name. Just "The Workshop" or something like that feels fitting.
 
TitanFrost said:
I feel like going for something understated would be best in terms of a team name. Just "The Workshop" or something like that feels fitting.
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I don't know, Apeiron has been all over the top in every public appearance complete with poses, billowing cape and banter (so it isn't wise to break character and make people doubt him), plus Garment would be against anything that isn't fashionable.
 
Well I finally read the latest chapter and honestly it gives me hope, I've been reading this fic for a pretty long time and was slowly growing to hate it even though I didn't want to. Used to be that when a new chapter popped up I would drop everything to read and now I just let it sit there for a couple days and even forget that I have it open in another tab. I took a break from it for two months awhile back and it really didn't change my view on this story.

This chapter though has kinda brought back some of my love for this fic. He took steps to fix his problems instead of hunkering in his garage and remaking thing, or putting them off, or talking to himself and ignoring the blatant issues. I was going into this chapter with the thought that if it was just another one of him tinkering and talking about what he was going to do that I would just drop this fic entirely, unwatch, take it out of my bookmarks and do my best to forget it exists. But this chapter has changed that at least a little bit, just enough for me to keep reading. Thank you for continuing to write this and no matter what I hope it keeps getting the recognition it deserves even I I can't do it.
 
I think the best entrance for Aperion, at least in terms of freaking out all the villains, would be to show up early and sit around cloaked.

Imagine, everyone else walks in one group at a time, their eyes skipping over an "empty" table in the middle of the room as they take a seat somewhere else. Right when they start wondering if Apeiron will bother to show up, his squad drops their cloaking/stranger power and all the villains realize that the table was never actually empty.

After all, I'm sure Apeiron can make something to completely avoid detection. The elven cloak is extremely powerful already, and it's basically 3 day old technology at this point :V (anyone remember in which chapter it was made?)
 
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