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Maybe mention that in parentheses?
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It does seem like a very crass and personal thing to ask, but if you read the first 3 questions they really don't sound very serious if you get the reference, and parenthesizing the statement just kills the joke somewhat. There really isn't a good way to make the joke feel natural without sounding crass.
Also, the question doesn't ask for a full name or even more sensitive information like the 4 digits on the back of your credit card so answering the question with sir my-totally-real-Firstname might answer it and not tell a lot of personal information?.. I think... it's just a unwelcome and sensitive thing to ask for on the unforgeting internet so I dunno. Besides, Lord doesn't have to answer every question.so he can skip it if he feels it's too much.
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That's an interesting question. While shard powers do count as magic they still function as computers that manipulate reality as such precognition runs on calculating the future based on factors in the present (that's why the forge disrupts Precognition, because it changes the present with no basis on past events in a non-meta sense), so if the shard can gather info on the magic resistant machine in a way that doesn't involve scanning it with "shard power" it should still work the same. However if Lord counts Precognition as running on magic rules completely then I don't think magic resistance would affect it because magic Precognition works on reading fate or seeing the future, you need a specific ability to block Precognition such as Mimihagi being immune to Yhwach's The Almighty.
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Depends on if it has been used yet. The shards can still read the results.
They may not know what it can do, but they can know what it has done and fill in the blank with that information, sort of like the Aisha memory editing when aisha got into the workshop
Which is why I specified a complex machine, an advanced autonomous combat machine that is hard to precog is a decent way around things like PtV and simple Simurgh plots. They will have difficulty accounting for its decisions.
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Yes yes yes, I am so glad that you understand @LordRoustabout ! This is what I was meaning in my posts like 6 months or so ago, but described with much more clarity. You should write what YOU want to write. If you want to improve your writing then choose to change in the way that YOU want to. No need to get bogged down in the comments or people who complain about the same things that you have already chosen against, like the March thing or the pacing.
I have my own things that I would change about this story, but i'm not going to tell you them because not the writer. You are. If I want this story to go the way I want I will write it myself (as Fanfiction or Omake), and so should everyone else. Pick up whatever helpful hints or tricky techniques you can in the comments, and leave the rest.
So just keep writing your story and know that you have my support, and the support of everyone who gives you the hugs and likes that you deserve on each chapter of this Epic that you are writing!
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Woodman would appreciate that. Speaking of woodman, what does the megaman perk come with again?
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I think that when Leviatan attacks the Bay Joe will be forced to choose one of two options. Kill Leviatan even when he knows horrible things will happen because of it or fight it non-lethally while the city is destroyed around him and people die. There is no way Joe would be able to stomach the second one, even if he new what was coming he would still feel creeping guilt.
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I feel that I should point out that there are real time manipulation powers in worm, or at least I've heard it argued that it isn't likely shards would be faking such phenomena. Therefore, it would seem unlikely that literally all shard precog is just simulation. Especially with how bullshit wog says Path to Victory can still be when encountering completely new phenomena.
Forge still fucks it up with its out-of-context unknowableness, but I figured I'd still bring that all up.
If remember correctly time-travel was to costly energy wise, and precogs Throw each other off.
I find it more likely that time travel or viewing isn't in play due to energy vost.
It might just be fanon howvever.
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Thanks for posting this for me dude!
Made by Limedalek on the discord server, He couldn't post it himself so I've been granted permission to post it here for him.
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You don't need to do a whole reality simulation to generate predictions. e.g I don't need a simulation of the world down to the quarks to know that if I want something to eat I can go to the supermarket and buy food.
Precog shards could just combine Clairvoyant's ability to view everything, Tattletale's ability to infer things from observed information and Accord's ability to generate super-intelligent plans using provided information. That would give them the ability to make largely reliable predictions without simulating the whole of reality for a long time.
PtV probably doesn't necessarily provide the best or most efficient path to the goal for the user. It probably provides the first plan that would work it finds, the easiest for it to calculate. If you ask it how to get the dish on the menu you will like the best it might tell you to just order all of them instead of simulating which one you will like best.
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From WoG (i.e. Wildbow), most time-manipulation powers — or, at least, the ones involving reversing it, resetting location/matter (e.g. Greyboy & Alabaster) — are actually the result of Shards messing around by other means to simulate time control. Stuff like "slowing down time" or "speeding time up" could presumably be achieved by combining dimensional trickery with the Theory of Relativity, which might account for Khonsu and Clockblocker's abilities as actual time control, but not reversing it: shards explicitly have to fake such phenomena.
After all, the ability to actually go back in time would effectively involve the reversal of entropy, i.e. the "holy grail" that the Entities are supposedly after to allow them to continue eating and expanding forever.
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What about Phir Se?
Can Joe summon a Servant? Is that capability included in the Thaumaturgy mote or not? That would be interesting if it is.
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The throne of heroes might exist, but the Grail system doesn't exist; it was artificial. I suppose if Joe was familiar with the idea and put time into it, he might be able to summon a servant like that one Einzbern did, but having a servant out without support of the grail is not easy.
Also, I doubt his knowledge approaches that subject tbh.
You ignore what he will hopefully have by then: a Displacer Feild.
He could Jurry Rig the tech to keep teleporting levi away.
Also, if he temporarily deployed a Core, things would be fine. Alternativley, have Fleet's drones with the Red Potion and tractor beams to heal people and get them out.
Joe might not want to reveal himself and all his tech, but he wouldn't allow harm to come to the city when he can stop it. A Core might be too much, but those Fleet Drones have already been constructed.
Alright. I have a question though, Does Joe already have protection against the Simurgh and Scion's precog/thinker powers? If so, does it also block Scion/Contessa's PtV? How powerful is his protection? And will it hold up to Scion's full power? I'm asking because I can't remember if he does.
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Joe has a couple systems for fucking with thinkers:
First is timing his actions with rolls of the forge. The rolls are completely out of context, so they fuck with precog/predictions. You see this in March underestimating his tracing/hacking skills.
Second, everything in his workshop is unseen by shards, so he can improve drastically in the workshop and they won't know.
Third is trying to limit how much info is released, so being secretive about what tech he's deploying, not revealing any powers to anyone outside the workshop, not discussing certain knowledge outside the workshop (passenger knowledge, enbringers, etc.), etc.
EDIT: If he gets M/E, he gains a free perk called Out Of Context Problem. Basically only Coil could predict him at that point, but Joe would know that, so would still stick to his strategies until Coil was taken out.
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Alright, thanks. What about Scion and the Simurgh though? Can they brute force their way to seeing inside the workshop or it's so advanced that it also works on them?
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The workshop is protected by Washu Tech, so not even those two can see. In fact, WOG:
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Shallow already answered, but I have a little clarification: they can try to brute force their way literally, by kicking the door into the Workshop and walking inside. They'll going to find themselves in the nearest large body of water (i.e. most likely the bay), because Joe installed the SSS defense system against intruders too... Too bad he disabled the part that writing the "Idiot" (or something like that) on their forehead.
Although, if they counts as natural disasters, not intruders - yes, they can brute force their way into the Workshop.
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Alright, thanks for answering and clarifying my questions. This story is so good, I doubt i'm gonna find another one like this in a while.