I.F. Ister
Fortifying The Thread
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If he had it, he would have already won
Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)
- Thread starter LordRoustabout
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Oni Lee can duplicate bombs in canon, maybe leet found out a way to persist them.
Well, we have to wait for 400CP
or for 800CP Tenchi Muyo anti-Simurgh wallpaper upgrade. Maybe something in 600+ CP has powerful anti-thinker solution.
Leet and Blasto are building cyberdragon mecha-Lung.
- Location
- USA
Didn't Joe already do that? I distinctly remember him throwing up curtains to block Nth dimensional peeping.
Joe now has very limited version.
- Location
- Brazil, Minas gerais
To be fair he probably show some degree of error in a simulation of future or even if the endbringers using their bullshit multi-dimission existence to watch [edit:if they can the 'four dimision from the outside I mean] him even without his blank strategy. Because one his not complete human and two part of his actions can be change by the forge 'SI' itself throwing feelings at him. And the forge 'SI' is both aware of some of the bullshit that he need to prepare and is not a 4 dimension being.
And he already have, like people said, a system, another system in the form of Zion actions (to chance his own actions) plus I have the believe that his time with the FAE where he trained in a no-entropic environment (I think), had receive teaching and concepts by alien beings that were shape by said environment and with every stuff he craft by hands create stuff that required to be learn in a environment without time cause some problem in simulations.
Because that is basically part of the entropy solving problem. And the entities had not solve it, even with powers like the 'time' and space manipulation showing that they are getting there...
...while still doing stuff like give humans and other aliens races powers that need entire planets for some times do stuff like have a powerful hose to hit targets with water. And destroying a absurd number of garden worlds. And having other problems like infighting and other aliens.
edit: grammar.
edit 2: plus he can summon a Satan and that ritual is enhanced by many perks. I really doubt that someone like DC comic Lucifer, or 'just' Lucifer from castlevania verse where Dracula befriend the personification of death (I think. I only know fanfics of castlevania) is any easier to be precog.
edit3 : Grammar and I put a clarification. Needed to rewrite some stuff. Sorry about that. I hope is more clean now.
And he already have, like people said, a system, another system in the form of Zion actions (to chance his own actions) plus I have the believe that his time with the FAE where he trained in a no-entropic environment (I think), had receive teaching and concepts by alien beings that were shape by said environment and with every stuff he craft by hands create stuff that required to be learn in a environment without time cause some problem in simulations.
Because that is basically part of the entropy solving problem. And the entities had not solve it, even with powers like the 'time' and space manipulation showing that they are getting there...
...while still doing stuff like give humans and other aliens races powers that need entire planets for some times do stuff like have a powerful hose to hit targets with water. And destroying a absurd number of garden worlds. And having other problems like infighting and other aliens.
edit: grammar.
edit 2: plus he can summon a Satan and that ritual is enhanced by many perks. I really doubt that someone like DC comic Lucifer, or 'just' Lucifer from castlevania verse where Dracula befriend the personification of death (I think. I only know fanfics of castlevania) is any easier to be precog.
edit3 : Grammar and I put a clarification. Needed to rewrite some stuff. Sorry about that. I hope is more clean now.
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- Location
- Up on a Hill
okay, maybe not the best word choice, but I didn't mean "look" creepy. I put PR concerns aside in my previous statements. I meant "be" creepy. I meant that Joe naturally doesn't want to be the sort of person who would violate the privacy of an entire city because he "has to." Which isn't to say he would never do it, or that in every situation I would decry him for doing so, but like I said: When it comes to secretly hacking people, any temptation is currently mitigated by Dragon, and when it comes to mass drone surveillance/warfare, there are a variety of things quelling that temptation (Simurgh, tech thievery, PR, yada yada), one of which certainly at least ought to be the thought, "do I really want to go full drone army? If I don't technically need to, is it really right for me to do that?"
Jumping into any of that without hesitation would make Joe a full blown creepazoid in the making, like jeez, get out of dodge, a man who should not have any sort of power has been given all of it. Unfortunately for Joe, he's an inexperienced, withdrawn, passive random nobody who just happened to be given great power and responsibility like a week ago or something. Every great feat under pressure he's managed so far has been totally facilitated by perks stapling such skills onto his actual personality, leaving him ill prepared to actually act in the grandiose role he has presented himself as occupying. Joe has hesitated like any decent person with reservations about deploying great power in a shaky global situation should, and the situation has sadly continued to spiral in the meantime. Maybe Joe does bare a lot of the responsibility for the people who die at the ABB's hands here today, for the trauma the conscripts will suffer after the fact, but to have taken the full amount of measures I've seen suggested here I think Joe would have had to have been much less concerned with such responsibility to begin with.
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- Sweden
Joe technically doesn't need to fight March at all. He could just hang out safe in his workshop.
He could also beat her trivially if he invested like a day of work.
Instead he goes out in gear that looks super impressive, but in reality he's holding back massively and basically playing around.
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- Up on a Hill
Alright, explain exactly how he's just playing around and the parahuman powerhouses of the bay should be nothing to him if he actually tries. If you explained this already and I missed it then link me to the post, or hell, just tell me it exists and I'll find it myself.
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- Sweden
I'm pretty sure we covered that already. In the way he could have located them with hacking or drones.
The now divinely magical drones that cost him nothing to produce so he could have a hundred of them on every street corner.
Garment has a huge wardrobe full of outfits that as directly stated by the author lets her solo any cape in the bay. I don't think there's a reason he can't lend those out to other people and have his own army.
He made supermagical divine power armor for Aisha in an afternoon. All the Undersiders could easily have the same.
Just make half a dozen more motoroids and let Fleet pilot them.
Tons of other ways.
But of course he can't, because he's scared of what the Simurgh will do months (half a year?) from now.
So he goes out by himself with tiny fractions of what he's really capable of. I call that playing around.
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S-class threat essentially means that he'd have a Kill Order on his head and that Protectorate forces from around the nation would be on his doorstep to carry it out.
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- Brazil, Minas gerais
I not sure if was here. But since this made sense I will write this post. In a fic blasto had a kill order pre write to make sure that he Don't make creations that could breed/self perpetuate.
And well since this worm and the high ups (I looking at you Alexandria) are REALLY corrupted. I would not be surprise about shenanigans like this one or retroactive kill orders. Plus miss path (to my shard) victory deciding what is or not allowed.
So I with the guys that say that Joe must be careful with what he does. He is even more discrete in the internet actions if a AI like dragon is not being trigged to act (again). And if people commented about Joe's children/AI. Well the version outside the lab is less bullshit and don't do actions like infect computers to self perpetuate. And the PRT have story working with tinkers using 'lesser' Ais even to some major stuff like the cape max 'prison'.
And well since this worm and the high ups (I looking at you Alexandria) are REALLY corrupted. I would not be surprise about shenanigans like this one or retroactive kill orders. Plus miss path (to my shard) victory deciding what is or not allowed.
So I with the guys that say that Joe must be careful with what he does. He is even more discrete in the internet actions if a AI like dragon is not being trigged to act (again). And if people commented about Joe's children/AI. Well the version outside the lab is less bullshit and don't do actions like infect computers to self perpetuate. And the PRT have story working with tinkers using 'lesser' Ais even to some major stuff like the cape max 'prison'.
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- Up on a Hill
Don't know what fic you heard that from, but I think it's actually canon. Could be wrong, but I put that disclaimer on a lot of what I say here.
I'm not one to harp on about what the PRT/Cauldron should have done like I'm at all qualified or clever enough to comment on super powered strategies for manipulation on a global scale, but I will say this. Blasto's tech was key to creating parahuman clones. So much of what Cauldron does is to keep parahumans alive to serve as final battle fodder (or, hopefully, be of some actual use). Yet they were ready to kill him off, as opposed to spiriting him away, brainwashing him, and preparing a brainwashed parahuman clone army.
That does seem a bit wack, I must admit. Perhaps someone else has more insight on the situation.
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- Brazil, Minas gerais
Nah, I agree with you that Cauldron could had done far, far more to help, or even retain a high trigger amount happening while not allowing so much shit to exist, by creating tension that didn't cause much (physical) damage or other stuff. like combine said clones caper creations with the worse formulas that almost guaranty a 53 cape to get a lot of capes (and maybe a silver bullet).
I will also go that Worm serial description of Ryuugi/rgm0005 is pretty accurate (to me), and that if the plan B was to mass master villains that should really be plan A. and blame either the plot or path (to my shard) victory. if and the tv troper of wards make me think that blaming ptv is not that absurd.
- Location
- Australia
Other people don't have Garment's ability to precisely manipulate cloth and understand dust weaving. It takes some skill to use.
Showing off the kind of power that would make Eidolon envious is dangerous. Attracting the Simurgh's attention is dangerous though to be fair that ship may have already sailed, possibly with the initial creation of the extra-dimensional privacy curtain. A mysterious element capable of making unforseen disruptions to her carefully calculated plots and plans could concern her even if she doesn't know what it will eventually be capable of.
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SB still lying to protect Racists what else is new
He's already getting perks from the Transformers franchise, and let me remind you of the fluff from the back of OG Megatron's toy. His arm mounted fusion cannon is powered by nearby black holes. Read that again.
It's not powers BY a black hole, but REMOTELY by "nearby" in a stellar sense, black holes. That is the level of the tech tree that Joe has only just begun to dip his toes into by working with Cybertronium*.
*Yes I know that's not the way the author is spelling it. I would rather be correct though then too lazy to have done a find an replace many chapters ago to fix a mistake. Yes I'm still salty about this.
- Location
- wethersfield,ct
Wasn't his attempt at bribery with Dragon about finding them, because they hadn't finished cracking through the combined protections of Leet and Bakuda?