Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

By the way, Joe, you might want to grant Solace to Taylor. There's no way she could exploit it offensively (...I think).
Well, wog is that she can use the reinforcement mystic code through her bugs (apparently they count as her magically?) so she may be able to greatly increase the area of effect of the anti-master/mind affecting field while also making it harder to disrupt her control via her power, if I understand things right.
 
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Since the Spiritron core can perfectly emulate the universe, esoteric factors included, does this mean it can perfectly emulate itself?
If so that's hilarious, Joe could literally program in more RAM for his computer core.
Not really. Remember, Spiritron Computing are still a form of Magecraft and thus still remain bound by universal constraints. Besides, while it is magical programming, it is still programming - it might be able to emulate the universe perfectly, including itself, but the emulation cannot be larger in scale than the original computer. It's like expecting a Virtual Box instance inside a Windows computer to somehow be faster than the original computer, just not possible.

Fortunately however, Spiritron Computing does have some pretty damn ridiculous metrics. The Moon Cell in Fate/Extra where this technology got introduced had been 3000 kilometers in length. That would make it roughly the size of China if seen from space, and while this is a massive scale if we're talking human conventions, in the scale of planets it's barely anything. Yet the Moon Cell is such a powerful supercomputer that not only could it record all events of the Earth's existence, including humans, and then use those observations to summon Heroic Spirits and hold a holy Grail War in a digital environment, it could also use that processing power to achieve true Magic and warp reality to induce miracles.

And while Joe's spiritron computer is not at the same scale as the Moon Cell, remember - for the Moon Cell, that's before any quality and efficiency improvements that all his other Perks allow him to have. In terms of processing power, Joe has all the processing power.
 
I just realized. Tybalt can eat chocolate now. The component of chocolate that is toxic to cats is theobromine. Theobromine does the same things that caffeine does, though not as well. Therefore, it is a stimulant. And Tybalt is immune to the side effects of stimulants.
 
@LordRoustabout the link in your signature does not lead to the wog section of TVtropes, it leads to Trivia instead.

It should be this address:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WordOfGod/BrocktonsCelestialForge
Thank you! :)
 
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If the Fallen didn't deserve to exist, then the same could be said for Heartbreaker, for Bastard Son, for Gesellschaft or the CUI or the worst of the warlords.

I really don't get why people assume that CUI is necessarily evil and needs killing solely based on their bad treatment of parahumans. Need I remind you, that parahumans are a very literal blight on earth Bet society? Given what we know about the impact of parahumans, CUI might in fact be by far the best country to live in the entirety of earth Bet. To just come and ruin it without thinking, because of some delusions of moral high ground? So many protagonists are happy to make life worse for a billion, in order to improve it for thousands, as they don't give a damn about the plot irrelevant unpowered people. Is that really an acceptable stance for a character like Joe?..
 
Okay, enlighten us, what do you know about CUI?
We only know the canonical plot relevant bits - pretty much nothing.

We do, however know, that parahumans make life worse for everyone around. A country where they are suppressed and tightly controlled must be pretty good for everyone else, compared to what you have in USA/Canada.

There is always a chance, of rulers who control the Yangban being madmen and some such, but why would you assume it?
 
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Someone check my napkin math, because I'm getting speeds over mach 100 out of this with correspondingly absurd kinetic energy equivalent to hundreds of times the bullet's weight in explosives.
I think it depends on how fast you assume the target to be travelling and how big the target is. If the target is stationary then there's no need to lead the target. The formula for required speed is roughly, Speed of target * 2000 / width of the target in the direction of motion. For fiat backed things like this though I don't think trying to work out an actual speed is productive.

There is also the (remote) chance of him being imported into an Item and gaining abilities that way (due to Tybalt being both Item and Companion) but that's unlikely to happen, mostly because very few of the jumps in V1 of the Celestial Forge have that many free items.
I don't think this is a thing. Like... most item imports aren't compatible with a person.

This was an interesting chapter. I like the explanation around how Aisha found the catsuit it fits. I also thought the scene of her responding to and discussing it was well done. The new divination and sensor tools made for Survey are also quite interesting. I wonder where her satellite base will be located. I also rather liked the bit about how people are asking Joe for breaks to make sure he takes breaks himself.

My goodness there were a lot of perks for Tybalt. I kinda forget just how much volume of free perks Jumpdocs heep on you sometimes. It's kinda overwhelming. Joe really is clearing out lower cost perks though. Outside of Personal Reality there's only 5 clusters with a perk costing 200 or under and there's only another 4 costing 300, 3 costing 400, and 5 costing 500. Everything else is 600 or 800, mostly 600.

Rolls Analysis
Vehicles (400): Vehicles has only 600 CP perks.
Personal Reality (500-300): This closes out this entire cluster. The interesting thing about how Lord is interpreting Lofty Loft if I'm reading the chapter correctly is that Joe gets a copy of the current size of his 'starting space' and only after this will size upgrades be applied separately. The other intersting thing is interpreting Underside as a flat cube... technically that isn't a requirement of the perk.
Size (300): Size constellation starts at 400. If Joe had 100 more points there would have been a 1/3 chance to trigger an invasion of Kerbals.
Knowledge (400-200): Joe has successfully obtained most of the low cost perks from this constellation. The thing left after this purchase that costs less than 500 CP is the Star Trek Skills and even then there's only two 500CP perks. This is rapidly approaching being another 600 point and up constellation. Star Trek Skills themselves are pretty cleaned out. There's only four left: Weapons, Espionage, Communications and Piloting.
Time (300): Time has only 600CP perks.


Question for Lord:
Have you removed Adaptive Inactive Storage from the roll tables?
 
I really don't get why people assume that CUI is necessarily evil and needs killing solely based on their bad treatment of parahumans. Need I remind you, that parahumans are a very literal blight on earth Bet society? Given what we know about the impact of parahumans, CUI might in fact be by far the best country to live in the entirety of earth Bet. To just come and ruin it without thinking, because of some delusions of moral high ground? So many protagonists are happy to make life worse for a billion, in order to improve it for thousands, as they don't give a damn about the plot irrelevant unpowered people. Is that really an acceptable stance for a character like Joe?..
CUI is basically China but with power of Parahumans. Tell me, how good you think current China is?

Now add fact that in the Worm verse everything is more fucked up by default.

More fucked up China backed up by basically slave parahuman enforcers. If this doesn't sound bad I don't know what is.
 
Now that I think about it, isn't Aisha's Shard currently 'eating gud' right now just by interacting with the impossible colors? Memory-affecting colors sure as hell seems like the perfect opportunity to gather more valuable DATA.
 
Aisha's Shard:
Nom Nom Nom Nom Nom Nom

Other people's Shard's:
We want to go to the [DATA] Buffet as well! Save some for us!
 
I am now imagining Tybalt doing massive amounts of catnip at all times.

I just realized. Tybalt can eat chocolate now. The component of chocolate that is toxic to cats is theobromine. Theobromine does the same things that caffeine does, though not as well. Therefore, it is a stimulant. And Tybalt is immune to the side effects of stimulants.

Tybalt will no longer be known as Kataklyzine.... Behold!

SNOWFLAME THE CAT!!!
 
Now add fact that in the Worm verse everything is more fucked up by default.
It isn't fucked up "just because". There is a very specific reason. Parahumans. Suppressed/controlled parahumans - less fucked up society.

Tell me, how good you think current China is?
How good by what measure? It is an economic superpower, one that entire world relies upon to produce cheap goods. Idk what beef you have with them, but were it to crash - say goodbye to most of your electronics, and expect prices for remaining ones to skyrocket by an order of magnitude.

Personally I like how organized they are. Their way of building new cities is a real sight. They could do with better science and some social adjustments, but overall it's one of the most useful assets of humanity.
 
It isn't fucked up "just because". There is a very specific reason. Parahumans. Suppressed/controlled parahumans - less fucked up society.
Uhhhh no, it doesnt work like this, at all. World in worse shape in general, because of Entities, sure, but you cant just shackle all parahumans in country and pretend it solved everything. Do you really think that, say, if you go to any country with high crime rates and magically put into jail every single criminal it will instantly make all country's problem to disappear?

How good by what measure? It is an economic superpower, one that entire world relies upon to produce cheap goods. Idk what beef you have with them, but were it to crash - say goodbye to most of your electronics, and expect prices for remaining ones to skyrocket by an order of magnitude.
China is kinda bad place to live in currently - and we dont even have parahumans - and they have high probability to, you know, have a horrific economical crisis and crash down hard

Personally I like how organized they are. Their way of building new cities is a real sight. They could do with better science and some social adjustments, but overall it's one of the most useful assets of humanity.
Yeah, just at the cost of their population's freedom. Go to China and try to say anything bad about their leader, see how fast you will disappear without any traces


But, since I am not you - who just drops baseless claims with source "I made it the fuck up" here's Chen's quote on CUI

It brought his mind back. Twenty-two years ago. It felt like a different lifetime, and in a lot of ways it had been one. He had been a student. Almost finished with university and drowning in the dreams of youth, of the future. He remembered the protests. Hu Yaobang had died and it seemed like a turning point for the nation, a chance for a new future. And they were going to make it happen. A bunch of kids were going to change the world with sit-ins and hunger strikes.

Then the capes got involved. Progovernment, antigovernment, opportunists, independents, criminals, and heroes, and villains. Suddenly nobody knew what was happening, what anyone was fighting for.

Not until the aftermath. The C.U.I. rose with most of the officers and corruption of the old government folded into it. Then the Yàngbǎn. Then the crackdowns. It was almost nostalgic. This hadn't been the first time he'd been beaten while tied to a chair.

But he had gotten out, left his old identity behind and found a new life in America, like so many others. It wasn't the easiest life, but it was his, and his to share.

Or had been his to share. Mei and Jun were away from this mess. They were safe, even if that did mean leaving them with Mei's sister. Another week in that house and his wife would probably be ready to charge back to Brockton Bay, despite the bombs and attacks.

He lost focus on his breathing and found himself in a coughing fit as he struggled to regain control. Each cough sent spikes of pain radiating from his broken ribs, bad enough to bring tears to his eyes. The guard on duty barely looked at him. Whatever the man's orders he obviously hadn't been told to put a priority on Chen's wellbeing.

His mind drifted back through the years, to the chaos of the protests. Years later he had seen a report from the other Earth, or what had happened in a world with fewer capes. It had somehow been worse. Once again, the problem wasn't capes, it was people. People who made their choices, and other people who had to live with their consequences.

So yeah, CUI are the bad guys in BCF canon
 
And what base do you have for that assumed correlation/causation?
Uhhhh no, it doesnt work like this, at all. World in worse shape in general, because of Entities, sure, but you cant just shackle all parahumans in country and pretend it solved everything. Do you really think that, say, if you go to any country with high crime rates and magically put into jail every single criminal it will instantly make all country's problem to disappear?
It's all about economy. Good economy means better life, generally. Disruption of production chains weakens the economy. Production chains are very large and complicated, should something minor be disrupted by some excitement caused by a new trigger / chaotic villain type, you get the rest of the chain disrupted as well. A singular occurrence is nothing, but overall it will cause a huge economic impact. If you jail the chaotic elements who would impact it - you will prevent this.

China is kinda bad place to live in currently - and we dont even have parahumans - and they have high probability to, you know, have a horrific economical crisis and crash down hard
By this measure USA is much worse. It can crash harder and easier. And did you forget that anyone can crash at this point? Our world's economy isn't all that stable.

Yeah, just at the cost of their population's freedom. Go to China and try to say anything bad about their leader, see how fat you will disappear without any traces
Maybe? I don't have any clue about that. I kind of doubt, that what you hear as outsider about their inner policies is very accurate though. In reality it could mostly be more in line with what being done in Russia: full media control that only lets the 'right' opinions be voiced, but without the counterpart of 'wrong' opinions voiced in ways that can easily be mocked right after.

And even if I'm wrong about the above, China is still an extremely important asset for humanity.

He had been a student. Almost finished with university and drowning in the dreams of youth, of the future. He remembered the protests. Hu Yaobang had died and it seemed like a turning point for the nation, a chance for a new future. And they were going to make it happen. A bunch of kids were going to change the world with sit-ins and hunger strikes.

Then the capes got involved. Progovernment, antigovernment, opportunists, independents, criminals, and heroes, and villains. Suddenly nobody knew what was happening, what anyone was fighting for.

Not until the aftermath. The C.U.I. rose with most of the officers and corruption of the old government folded into it. Then the Yàngbǎn. Then the crackdowns. It was almost nostalgic. This hadn't been the first time he'd been beaten while tied to a chair.

1. He says that he got beaten by others before the CUI.
2. He outright says that they were making progress before all manners of capes got involved. Before the CUI.
3. Your quote fills me with zero context about actual way of life in CUI.
4. To me this sounds like he was a politic activist, those get beaten all the time in many countries during 'elections'. Nothing here says that CUI were particularly evil.
 
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