Bruh. The moment he realizes that Endbringers are like mythological Hydra heads, then Joe will start cutting them off one by one. Collateral Damage is guaranteed though so he needs to build a transdimensional arena to pull those suckers in before 1v1ing them to the death.
What would even happen if all of the Endbringers were defeated? Would more show up, called by Eidolon? Hell, what would happen to Eidolon in general if all of the Endbringers were defeated since he was the one calling/controlling them and all?
Pft, the only reason Joe has a hard time is because he refuses to actually plan for fights, sure he slaps together some new gear, but beyond that? Nothing. He just runs face first into every fight he's ever been in, and gets surprised when someone gives him a 1-2 punch from the side having planned for him.
Yeah this is kinda the downside of the 'just keep waiting till time x' strategy Joe uses...
No, I don't think so. We have to understand that the Endbringers themselves are constructed from limited things. Simmy was "built from greater structures intended to salvage a situation where the host species eliminated itself" by Eidolon/High Priest, and we can assume that the rest were also built from other countermeasures and structures. It's unlikely that the things required to make more once they're all gone even exist, since Eden's dead and Zion is Zion. Plus, it's unlikely they were even intended to be used outside of specific situations, let alone be destroyed (or come close to that before one of the Entities intervened somehow), so why would there be anything to make more?
Just because the net gain of morbium is 0 doesn't invalidate the fact that the Earth is, in fact, constantly morbin'.
There's about 20 Endbringers, well 17 dormant and 3 active for this fic(in canon we got to see 6 activate) if Joe kills them all their done and gone and eidolon doesn't have to worry about his shard battery getting drain anymore. Honestly more Endbringer's popping up would probably finally force Joe to stop sandbagging and starting hunting them one by one until their all gone
the 20 are in the future vision that never came to pass where Eden was alive, correctt? thats pretty different circumstances, and we dont know much about how those EBs would have functioned. Was the smaller EBs the third entity or were these ones also smaller?
Yes it from the future vision plus and from the web novel itself here's a citation
My point was that the 20 endbringers are managed by Eden in a 'perfect' version of Bet (for the Entities) and compared to Eidolons hackjob (the Ziz is made out of piecemeal scrap of stuff that was supposed to be used for emergencies) they probably function a lot differently and thus we cant assume theres exactly twenty. Theres probably a lot less considering everythings running on a lower amount of power. Those 20 EBs probably never came to be, leaving us with 'at least six'. Especially if the future twenty were smaller, where we can definitely assume they werent nearly as wasteful as David accidentally tripping over his own ego
I really dislike that fanon, thank god lord avoids it the same with Vicky fanon. No the David ego thing or whatever is not true here:
I'm joking around I admit, Eidolon gets a' bit' of a bad rap when he genuinely seems to want to do good. Personally, he's one of my favorite characters, though you have to admit it's fucking hilarious that he accidentally summoned Godzilla and Friends because he had a bit of a inferiority complex and I dont really blame people for joking about it. Character studies of Eidolon aside, the matter at hand is the number of EBs, and Eidolon's relationship to this is how badly he fucked up Kaiju Construction 1O1
I mean, I read Worm far after it was completed and probably read edited versions of it, but it always struck me as odd that Vicky was allowed to run around unsupervised with her aura that she clearly didn't have the self-discipline to control. And it is self-discipline, since it was implied every time she was called out on it, she was able to rein it in.
I mean, I don't outright blame Eidolon for the Endbringers - he had no idea he was doing it, and I'm not sure it was ever really confirmed that he was the reason for them (maybe there's a WoG I missed somewhere). But given how Scion destroys him, and the EB's actions after, it makes sense.
Oh yeah, he's completely blameable for all the war crimes he committed with Cauldron, entirely reasonable take. (edit: bad rap = specifically involving the creation of the EBs not his 203952 human rights violations) As for the canon of the EB connection, it's been hinted at so heavily that assuming it's canon seems plenty reasonable. If it somehow isnt, he's still heavily tied to them in some dubious manner anyway. It hasn't been WOG'ed though and I doubt it ever will be, the vaugeness is intentional. Its not like Cauldron ever knew where the EBs came from either so we really only have Zions dubious words to murderize Eidolon with and the actions of the EBs after.
One morbillion is apparently equal to 163.8 million.
By definition, it IS a master effect. A master affect is any power expression that creates or controls minions, or manipulates emotions. Similarly, a stranger effect is any power expression that makes something harder to perceive, or otherwise messes with perception.
Thanks! That was why it sounded familiar! I really need to play that game again.If a full outhouse goes untended for long enough, a Morb will crawl out.
Morbs are not hostile, but they stink and carry disease.
Uhh no, manipulating emotions isn't a master power. Unless it lets you control people, as in make minions, emotion powers are just that, emotion powers.
You are probably right but I more ment to refure to he growth and ability to separate him self from the toxic situation and grow confidence in him self. The ability to say 'I see these issues they are not my fault and will never be my fault because I can controle me not you'. Growing past toxicity and thriving.
Point of order: Weaverdice describes Master powers as follows: "Creates minions or has a means of compelling others to take certain actions" so your definition of Master is overly strict. Besides, if Gallant is a Master, then so is Glory Girl.
Right, so Heartbreaker isn't a Master then; his power lets him manipulate people's emotions, which makes them want to do what he asks, but he can't actually control them. Same deal with Cherish too.
