Okay, if @BG_Character_592 ever brings the Fate cast to the Chronicles Universe, he should be careful with a lot of hated fanon, including the infamous "Zelretch is a troll" meme, because this is one of the biggest triggers in Nasuverse fans, some not even rabid.
I know it's a meme and memes are easy to remember (in fact, I believe that's one of the reasons they are called 'memes'), but Zelretch in canon is most emphatically NOT a troll, he is actually a very serious character who was said by the author himself, Kinoko Nasu, to be similar to Jotaro Kujoh of JoJo's fame.
If anything, Zelretch is more likely to send the Fate cast to the Chronicles universe on a mission, and not any mission, most likely it would be a mission in which if they weren't there, the entire timeline would be destroyed/erased/burnt/pruned, because that's the kind of person he is.
Or he could just send them their to give them a break. I mean just because someone is serious all the time doesn't mean they live on a knife's edge all the time, and it doesn't mean they have to have everyone else do so. So Zel sends them to the Chronicles world to give them a breather after doing something for him, they sight see, Rin talks to the scientists about the Magecraft and brainstorm ideas, Shirou and Shinji have a bro-moment while cooking, etc.
Of course, he may not tell them why they are there, allowing for numerous comedic moments, but even then it would be more on the basis of "if they know, everything is doomed", so if they are sent there, it better be for an actually very good reason and not just for jokes.
Said that, I would love to see them in the Chronicles Universe, I believe they could have hilarious interactions with the cast in basically everything, the OT4, considering Shirou is an infamous Harem Protagonist who actually has amazing snark (though he's usually too polite to snark out loud), the existence of a World Progenitor/Goddess living as an eccentric human, the giant cyborgs cloned from Kaijus, and even simply the mere existence of Metaphysical Biology; like Holy Sh*t, that would be HUGE, as in "can potentially change everything" in the Nasuverse, even more in the Fate franchise.
Assuming anything can be crossed-over though. I mean i got to point out wouldn't beings like Rei and the Angels actually be the Eva-verses version of Type Mercury? Not that don't think the cast can;t take something back to their world it's just...well let me pose a question; what happens to a being who was born of and is Mystery, when they go to a world that not only has no such thing, but none such ever existed?
Basically what would happen to Type Mercury if he were to go to the Eva-verse where the "Mystery" mechanic that both birthed it and allows it to be so dangerous in the Nasuverse just isn't there. Cause for me i can only imagine it basically becoming what amount to an Eva-Angel, without an AT field, at best; doesn't really work with the physics we know but is still more then capable of going down with things like bullets. At worst it just fade out of existence cause Type Mercury is made of Mystery, and will just fade away cause the "system" keeping it together doesn't exist.
The existence of Thaumaturgy and everything connected to it would throw everyone on the Eva side of things for a loop, as well. Especially making them wonder if some form of the Clock Tower exists or existed in their world, and if it had any connections to SEELE at any point.
That is actually a good point, I didn't consider eventual connections between the Magi and SEELE. SEELE would totally try to use Thaumaturgy in something, heck, if Gendo could he would probably use it to create Rei, though I also like the idea that he wouldn't need to because science simply advanced enough for that.
While it is a fun thought, don't we already have a lot of plot going in Chronicles as is, even more so when it was just supposed to be a "reaction" series? Also go to my above stament about the mechanics of the Nasuverse.
he should be careful with a lot of hated fanon, including the infamous "Zelretch is a troll" meme, because this is one of the biggest triggers in Nasuverse fans, some not even rabid.
While it is a fun thought, don't we already have a lot of plot going in Chronicles as is, even more so when it was just supposed to be a "reaction" series?
Though I guess that does mean there may be a chance of incorporating Fate somehow; I managed to do it with Franxx after all. Then again, Fate looks like a whole different beast so who knows
In the Fullmetal Alchemist manga, the is a section at the end of each volume that shows those that died in the volume going to heaven. Tucker is the only one that goes to hell. That says something about how evil he is. In regards the the Fate series, I wonder how the Chronicles cast would react to the spin off "Carnival Phantasm"?
Though I guess that does mean there may be a chance of incorporating Fate somehow; I managed to do it with Franxx after all.
Then again, Fate looks like a whole different beast so who knows
Or he could just send them their to give them a break. I mean just because someone is serious all the time doesn't mean they live on a knife's edge all the time, and it doesn't mean they have to have everyone else do so. So Zel sends them to the Chronicles world to give them a breather after doing something for him, they sight see, Rin talks to the scientists about the Magecraft and brainstorm ideas, Shirou and Shinji have a bro-moment while cooking, etc.
Assuming anything can be crossed-over though. I mean i got to point out wouldn't beings like Rei and the Angels actually be the Eva-verses version of Type Mercury? Not that don't think the cast can;t take something back to their world it's just...well let me pose a question; what happens to a being who was born of and is Mystery, when they go to a world that not only has no such thing, but none such ever existed?
Basically what would happen to Type Mercury if he were to go to the Eva-verse where the "Mystery" mechanic that both birthed it and allows it to be so dangerous in the Nasuverse just isn't there. Cause for me i can only imagine it basically becoming what amount to an Eva-Angel, without an AT field, at best; doesn't really work with the physics we know but is still more then capable of going down with things like bullets. At worst it just fade out of existence cause Type Mercury is made of Mystery, and will just fade away cause the "system" keeping it together doesn't exist.
While it is a fun thought, don't we already have a lot of plot going in Chronicles as is, even more so when it was just supposed to be a "reaction" series? Also go to my above stament about the mechanics of the Nasuverse.
Indeed, Zelretch could just send on vacation, but I think that's unlikely because to me he doesn't seem to be one to mess with parallel universes unless necessary. Also, if he just wants them to have a vacation, he would probably do it in their own world.
Of course, Zelretch doesn't need to be the one to send them, as Rin after Heaven's Feel is his apprentice, she may do it herself, though that's much more unlikely, unless she messes something up which, to be honest, is just like her.
Yes, that would be something to consider, but as it's a fanfic, and not one of those painful and carefully planned to the little details on top of that, the easiest thing to do would be to have Mystery exist but simply not be relevant to the Evangelion cast, they already have a lot on their plates anyway.
Though I don't think Rei and the Angels would be considered a Type, partially because they are not exactly Aliens, in that they were born on Earth (with the exception of ADAM and LILITH) so they should still be possible according to the natural laws of the Planet, though according to very obscure, never discovered in other Earths laws.
Another reason the Angels wouldn't be Types is because the whole Angel War was quite literally a battle to determine who would inherit Earth and the humans won, so the Angels can't be considered the most powerful life form of the planet, the definition of a Type.
Besides, Rei and Kaworu have a big human heritage, so I think they would technically be considered humans by the Common Sense of Man.
Oh, BG, you have no idea how right Critian is about Beasts when it comes to that cute little guy. But that's stuff from Fate/Grand Order, unlikely to be put on the polls because it's an online mobile game that is still incomplete. Maybe after the anime adaptions end? Though that would still be an incomplete story because they are adapting only parts of the game.
Eh, he doesn't have to come in for the FGO anime stuff specifically, I think it's fair that a Nasuverse character shows up after a Nasuverse work in general is shown. The questions the crew will ask about why this adorable critter that says "Fou" showed up will be just as interesting as if an F/Z character showed up.
Eh, he doesn't have to come in for the FGO anime stuff specifically, I think it's fair that a Nasuverse character shows up after a Nasuverse work in general is shown. The questions the crew will ask about why this adorable critter that says "Fou" showed up will be just as interesting as if an F/Z character showed up.
Eh? Oh! No, I wasn't disagreeing with you, that part was just giving context about the little guy to BG, plus why I think it wouldn't be worth it to put it in the polls in case BG ever thought about it.
Considering that fully-unchained Progenitors are basically minor Gods that can play with the laws of physics (meta- and regular) and reformat planets at will... they would be rather OP in Fate.
Well if your talking about people on this Thread you should be fine. I mean me and Aurelio are having a pretty civil conversation, and no ones stepped in to pour gasoline on the fire so..
Indeed, Zelretch could just send on vacation, but I think that's unlikely because to me he doesn't seem to be one to mess with parallel universes unless necessary. Also, if he just wants them to have a vacation, he would probably do it in their own world.
Is that anymore unlikely then Penpen becoming God and sending the Eva casts media from other universes?
Of course, Zelretch doesn't need to be the one to send them, as Rin after Heaven's Feel is his apprentice, she may do it herself, though that's much more unlikely, unless she messes something up which, to be honest, is just like her.
She did that in...Ataraxia? Or was that Apocrypha?
Yes, that would be something to consider, but as it's a fanfic, and not one of those painful and carefully planned to the little details on top of that, the easiest thing to do would be to have Mystery exist but simply not be relevant to the Evangelion cast, they already have a lot on their plates anyway.
By that logic we should have the "Zel a troll thing" as that can be also considered MST3K Mantra.
Though I don't think Rei and the Angels would be considered a Type, partially because they are not exactly Aliens, in that they were born on Earth (with the exception of ADAM and LILITH) so they should still be possible according to the natural laws of the Planet, though according to very obscure, never discovered in other Earths laws.
Another reason the Angels wouldn't be Types is because the whole Angel War was quite literally a battle to determine who would inherit Earth and the humans won, so the Angels can't be considered the most powerful life form of the planet, the definition of a Type.
Besides, Rei and Kaworu have a big human heritage, so I think they would technically be considered humans by the Common Sense of Man.
Oh, BG, you have no idea how right Critian is about Beasts when it comes to that cute little guy. But that's stuff from Fate/Grand Order, unlikely to be put on the polls because it's an online mobile game that is still incomplete. Maybe after the anime adaptions end? Though that would still be an incomplete story because they are adapting only parts of the game.
Considering that fully-unchained Progenitors are basically minor Gods that can play with the laws of physics (meta- and regular) and reformat planets at will... they would be rather OP in Fate.
This is what i was getting at. At the least we are talking about the two of them being Eva-verses worlds version of Tiamat, and they have the abilities more or less equal to her outside of the Nasuverse. As they come from another planet they could just as easily count as a Type. ...On the other hand the Foreigner version of Artoria is a alien and isn't a type. ...But on a third hand she does gain the Foreigner Class thanks to her Alien nature.
And that's without even considering if Rei and her stupid fish wouldn't still count as something of a similar nature in their "human identities". I would not be suprised of the second they stepped into the Nasuverse they are considered something that equals Arcuid(is that how you spell her name?).
Sorry, i figured we were pushing it, even if we were talking about how Rei and her stupid fish would work in the Nasuverse.
On that note i didn't know you were a fan of the Nasuverse enough to comment on it?
Busy days at work, but hopeful of writing time (and energy!) tomorrow.
HAHAHAHAhhahahahahha ha ha.... no. 12 on 12 off. Well, we just upped that 'on' to 14, since things have been a little busy this week.
Working on KSK scene in my head, though. thought of something good to include, and let it have an effect that's another result of the butterflies from the Kiss. Something that only Kensuke would notice, but he's only there to notice it in the first place because Rei arranged for Sayaka and Kyoko to try dating him.
Working on KSK scene in my head, though. thought of something good to include, and let it have an effect that's another result of the butterflies from the Kiss. Something that only Kensuke would notice, but he's only there to notice it in the first place because Rei arranged for Sayaka and Kyoko to try dating him.
Funny about fate stay night. I just... acquired the visual novels and they are pretty good. Very lengthy though and with three routes to go through its a heafty amount of words to read.
Anywho, for chronicles sake, I'd recommend caution on approach. The animes tend to abbreviate the info from the VN or leave things out entirely.
That's mostly because you lose all of the inner dialogue (and snark) Shirou has. The Unlimited Blade Works anime is still fairly decent, and Fate/Zero is amazing as always even though it wasn't based on a visual novel.
It's an In-Universe Work, so maybe Rei finds it in a flea market one day and they decide to play through it
Don't see why it wouldn't work, though. I'll add it to the suggestions I've already got Cowboy Bebop and The Phantom Menace on my list as well, and they're In-Universe.
...Of course, if TPM gets voted for, it'd probably be alongside the rest of the prequels. Which would be interesting for the gang to watch, I imagine
I definitely agree with this because similar to NGE there are different versions of the series. the 2003 version was more character driven, emotionally, and had a main human villian while FMA BH was more action-pack, fun, and was very out there.
Fun fact. The prequels were much better recieved in japan then anywhere else. Mostly for three reasons.
1.) Jedi culture has so many similarities to samurai culture that the Japanese identified with the stories easier.
2.) The ridiculous amount of special effects greatly fit Japanese taste to the point they considered it a western anime.
3.) They release them subbed in theaters. Thus the english delivery of dialogue felt more natural since it was shown to non native speakers. Similar to subbed jap over everywhere else. When it was finally dubbed, it had the advantage of better delivery.
The prequels are so beloved in japan, Hayden (the actor who played Anakin in 2 and 3) was super popular there. Likewise, the last jedi earned less the the prequels because of the many negative things it said about jedi culture and unintentionally samurai culture.
If the chronicles crew were to watch it, I'd expect a split of opinions between the Native Japanese and Native Westerns.
To be honest, while these are good series, i kind of want something more out-there. Like Death Battle. It's something the cast hasn't really had yet, given it's a...well it's about approaching the abilities of various characters with science to see who'd win. Though i think we should stick to the later seasons as...well there is a difference in...quality between season one and the latest season. Such as Boomstick actually has a voice distinct from his VA. The only reason i chose Rebellion is cause they already did Madoka and i want them to see how they'd react to that, and i want to see more KSK no matter what. ...Also i'm kind of hoping Madoka and Homura see Rebellion.
Not sure how recent it was, but RT did a drunken reading of the script for RvB episode 1 with the original voice actors reprising their roles. Was pretty Chronicles caliber.
Could do. Series is fairly long at this point, but would definitely be a lot of fun.
Heck...
I'd even suggest they watch it all the way through if it got voted in. The last few seasons are very 'EoE'-ish in some respects when compared to everything that came before, and that'd make for a good talking point.
Apologies for the delay, took too long, blah blah blah. Does anyone ever read these intros?
4100 words to end Chapter 11. Next is Chapter 12, and the Fate of the Gods, in fire, death, and glory.
Today was busy at work. War may be about to start. So we need WAFF and parties.
...this update has no parties. Some WAFF, but wait for the end, and that might change.
I'm pretty sure Rei's either lying to the commander, or is going to get a sister (Rei-Q/Kyu)
Also if found some good music for this series or similar works that might be Inspired by it (the first three of these are from Godzilla King of the Monsters)
Lilith's theme (should she be a good guy instead of being like the version of her from the fanfic "Going Another Way" where she was actually an antagonist):
Adam's theme (should he be a good guy akin to how he was portrayed in Going Another Way, Albeit having exploded due to his S2 being damaged when his lance was removed*):
The SEELE Council's plotting theme (this plays when these guys are talking to each other, Gendo or other NERV members, and not when their plans are actually being carried out):
Fighting SEELE's private army:
Kihil Lorenz decides to take matters into his own hands and gets out an Eva of his own that he controlled through his cybernetics (like how he had an Eva twice the size of a normal one, had six arms, six eyes, and was all black, hence the name: "Black Ace") or when Unit-01 enters an "awakened" state (I want Rei *inhales* GIVE HER BACK!/Give me back *inhales* MY. SISTER!) version A:
*A possible reason that Adam was found impaled with his own lance would be that he did it to himself to keep it from exploding. If we look at Unit-04 it and the base it was in were either sucked into a Dirac portal, or vaporized when it's S2 was activated. Because of that I was thinking that Unit-04's S2 was flawed in some way, and since all of the Evas except Unit-01 were made from cloned Tissue samples from Adam, it would make sense that he had a flawed S2 as well. Going from there it could be said that Adam might have stuck himself with his lance to keep his S2 from going critical. If we throw out the EXTREMELY vague information of the "First Ancestral Race", why they made beings like Adam and Lilith, and why they didn't want a being like Adam and a being like Lilith on the same planet, out the window and say that there's actually no difference in what these "Seeds of Life" are capable of creating. That is to say: the whole "Fruit of Life" and Fruit of Knowledge" thing and a "Forbidden Union" would result if two opposites got together, resulting in what is essentially a god, at the expense of everything else on the planet dying, is all lies made up by SEELE to make sure people will fight savagely because they think that if they lose, all life on Earth will go extinct. When it's actually just SEELE getting rid of individuals that would be able to stop them from achieving Instrumentality.
I'm pretty sure Rei's either lying to the commander, or is going to get a sister (Rei-Q/Kyu)
Also if found some good music for this series or similar works that might be Inspired by it (the first three of these are from Godzilla King of the Monsters)
*several videos*
Kihil Lorenz decides to take matters into his own hands and gets out an Eva of his own that he controlled through his cybernetics (like how he had an Eva twice the size of a normal one, had six arms, six eyes, and was all black, hence the name: "Black Ace") or when Unit-01 enters an "awakened" state (I want Rei *inhales* GIVE HER BACK!/Give me back *inhales* MY. SISTER!) version A:
