That was amazing
I have to ask something, though.
The fact that polygamy is legal in the post 2I USA makes me wonder just how bad North America got hit?
The Eva wiki doesn't mention anything about it.
 
That was amazing
I have to ask something, though.
The fact that polygamy is legal in the post 2I USA makes me wonder just how bad North America got hit?
The Eva wiki doesn't mention anything about it.
It's the entire world that got hit. I remember reading that humanity had been reduced to only ten millions in comparison to humanity's present population of 7500 millions, that would mean that the total of humans in the Post-Second Impact world accounts for around a 0.13% of today's population.

Actually, this could actually justify how Rei and Kaworu even exist from a scientific perspective since human cloning in general is taboo in our world but for a population that barely surpasses the total amount of people living in New York that could have become a necessary evil to keep humanity from dying.
 
It's the entire world that got hit. I remember reading that humanity had been reduced to only ten millions in comparison to humanity's present population of 7500 millions, that would mean that the total of humans in the Post-Second Impact world accounts for around a 0.13% of today's population.
Maybe I confused canon with Rebuild.
Pretty sure civilization would collapse if so little people survived. Not to mention infrastructure to produce even one Evangelion.
 
Absolutely wonderful. Asuka's speech was very touching. I wish I could hug or like a post more than once in times like this. I love this series so much.
 
Pretty sure canon is "thanks to 2I and the ensuing wars and civil disorder, ~50% of humanity died".
It's probably safe to assume it triggered some massive earthquakes. San Andreas, the Cascades, possibly New Madrid, and I think I saw Arizona mentioned. That would cause a catastrophic loss of life in America. At least in the tens of millions. Not to mention all the problems the quakes may cause.
 
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Because I am me and I love Hangover a lot I did a thing.

Many hugs and laughs were shared when the four newlyweds reunited with the Major and her scruffy companion. The fact that Asuka associated finding the woman with a strange sense of relief and calm was not lost on her. Back in Japan Misato had been the source of much of the craziness in her life, even without counting the penguin. So seeing her as a rock of stability and normality certainly put the last twenty-four hours of Asuka's life in perspective. After a round of gentle ribbing and a series of obvious jokes relating to the fours rather wild wedding night, the Major seemed to calm down. Taking Asuka aside by the arm.

"So would you mind if I have my cross back?" Misato asked with a smile.

Asuka slapped her head at forgetting something so obvious, among the piles of tossed and disheveled clothing Asuka had found her old wards necklace. Compared to the bear or the tattoos Asuka had paid the memento no mind, simply putting it into her bag to give to her former Guardian. Pulling it out to give to Misato, Asuka apologized "Sorry about that, I guess you left it at the hotel with us right?"

At that Misato laughed "You really don't remember anything, do you?" Taking the cross from Asuka, Misato shook her head "Asuka you asked me to borrow this. You were very insistent you needed it to complete the tradition."

Asuka scoffed "What tradition?"

Misato simply smiled and turned Asuka towards her companions pointing to Shinji first "Something old. You two have loved each other as long as you have known each other. Something new." Misato pointed to Kawrou who was joking with Kaji "You let him into your heart even when you did not want to." Misato held up her cross. "Something Borrowed. You know what this means to me." Misato laughed as she saw the last member of Asukas party looking at them. Her warm red eyes exuding happiness "And well," Misato said with a sly grin "I think you can guess what was your thing of blue."
 
LCL-based drug that shatters emotional barriers and makes you say nothing but the cutest things. Seems legit.
Can we call it Waff-serum? Please?:rofl:
Back on track, who thinks the LCL-based drug is a Chekhov's gun as far as Misato and Kaji's yet-to-appear-in-present-time go?
There is going to be one brief scene later cutting back to Japan, where Ritsuko and Maya discuss a few attributes of the 'Romulan Ale' that Misato forgot to mention. While drinking it themselves. ;) It has a few... side effects. Though Misato would mostly call them 'Awesome effects', and have another shot or three.
The fact that polygamy is legal in the post 2I USA makes me wonder just how bad North America got hit?
The Eva wiki doesn't mention anything about it.
Pretty bad. Canon is largely silent, but with global deaths at 3 billion, you can make up what you like to fill the gap. All we've got is the US has two major NERV bases (Nevada, goes BOOM due to Unit-04's S2 Engine test, and Boston, home to a MAGI set), and the economy to support building Units-03 and -04 by themselves when a single Eva Unit is in the 'bankrupt small countries' range. The 'polygamy and more is legal now' thing is mostly a handwave for The Hangover to have an excuse for why they'd even get a chance to do this.
Pretty sure canon is "thanks to 2I and the ensuing wars and civil disorder, ~50% of humanity died".
Yeah, it's 'only' half of humanity. And worse, it's concentrated in the southern hemisphere, and coastlines facing Antarctica. So India? Mostly gone, between the Impact itself and the nuclear war with Pakistan that followed. Australia? 100% gone, save for a few settlements on the northern coast. So the US got off 'relatively' lightly, but still suffered a lot on the Pacific coast, and from secondary effects (Something like 1/4 the US economy depends on stuff coming in through the West Coast ports.)

Fun note: The entire chapel scene, including Asuka's speech, was written while I was blasting Inna Gadda Da Vida, Shine On You Crazy Diamond, Dark Side of the Moon, and The Wall. So just a little psychedelic rock in the veins, there...
 
If I recall, at least in your version, Russia was least badly affected out of all the great nations. So currently, what level of influence are we talking? Because whilst they still can't match America if America can build Evas, I'm picturing something not far off from "peak of the Soviet Union."
 
If I recall, at least in your version, Russia was least badly affected out of all the great nations. So currently, what level of influence are we talking? Because whilst they still can't match America if America can build Evas, I'm picturing something not far off from "peak of the Soviet Union."
The Soviet Union collapsed in 1990. 2I occurred in 2000.
 
There are some talks about Chinese-Russian conflict, and well, not to be pessimistic, but I think in that scenario the big red button was pushed at least once on both sides.
I don't think anyone is in a good place right now, but massive global warming would cause the majority of Siberia to suddenly become more habitable. In that situation, Russia would become a bread basket as well as a major oil exporter. Of course, that is if Russia won against China or at least negotiated a ceasefire without yielding everything east of Ural. Since there is nothing mentioned about Oriental Asia being a giant nuclear wasteland, they did somehow reached some sort of consensus. It would mostly depend on whatever the fic's writer/AdEva's campaign GM would want, because canon doesn't say much either way. I looked.
And I guarantee you, if USA can do it, then Russians will at least try to repeat it, so I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss that at least some of Mass Production Evas were made there.
 
Yeah, it's 'only' half of humanity. And worse, it's concentrated in the southern hemisphere, and coastlines facing Antarctica. So India? Mostly gone, between the Impact itself and the nuclear war with Pakistan that followed. Australia? 100% gone, save for a few settlements on the northern coast. So the US got of 'relatively' lightly, but still suffered a lot on the Pacific coast, and from secondary effects (Something like 1/4 the US economy depends on stuff coming in through the West Coast ports.)

Fun note: The entire chapel scene, including Asuka's speech, was written while I was blasting Inna Gadda Da Vida, Shine On You Crazy Diamond, Dark Side of the Moon, and The Wall. So just a little psychedelic rock in the veins, there...
I'll guess that means that pretty much the entirety of the Latinamerican and Subsaharian countries are gone, alongside with the Phillipines and the South Eastern Asia.
 
Nations and the Post-2I World
I'll guess that means that pretty much the entirety of the Latinamerican and Subsaharian countries are gone, alongside with the Phillipines and the South Eastern Asia.
South America varies. The coasts got hammered, but inland was not directly hit, especially at altitude. So Bolivia wasn't hurt as bad from the Impact as Uruguay or Brazil, for example. There's no one left alive in the Falklands or Rio de Janiero, though. South Africa lost all the coast, but Congo and inland didn't feel the hit... but then comes the secondary effects of sudden climate shifts, wars, economic collapses, etc. The Philippines got partly shielded by Australia, but got hurt anyway, and the secondary effects hammered what survived the blast tsunamis. So yes, the Philippines are pretty badly wrecked, along with Indonesia and much of SEA. The parts of Singapore that are even still above water are a wreck.

Russia indeed came off fairly well, thanks to being shielded by the bulk of Asia, and the climate shift making Siberia a much better prospect than it once was. They managed to keep the badly hurt PRC at bay by rattling their still substantial Strategic Rocket Forces at them whenever China looked like they were getting ideas of moving north. China decided it had enough to do rebuilding it's shattered coast and tens of millions of casualties from the Impact and effects that it didn't need to start a nuke war of it's own, and left Siberia alone. Russia isn't quite a megapower post-2I, but they're definitely a first-rank peer with Germany, Japan, and the US, which is why one of the public members of the UN Human Instrumentality Committee is Russian, and therefore a top-level member of SEELE as well.
 
The Soviet Union collapsed in 1990. 2I occurred in 2000.
The lack of world building in NGE means we don't know if that is the case for that universe, so all bets are off.

As for what you said, Strypgia, it is plausible but by far not the sole possible theory. Personally, I prefer the one about a terraforming process by AT Field which was aborted mid-way, leaving Earth in the sorry state between worlds that it now is.
 
The lack of world building in NGE means we don't know if that is the case for that universe, so all bets are off.

It's nice not having this problem with my fic. Everything is concrete, and that which isn't already, shall become so by the end.

As for what you said, Strypgia, it is plausible but by far not the sole possible theory. Personally, I prefer the one about a terraforming process by AT Field which was aborted mid-way, leaving Earth in the sorry state between worlds that it now is.

I think you may have a case for Impact mechanics in terms of Rebuild, as the oceans were literally poisoned by LCL. Great big evolutionary reset button, on the other hand Impact mechanics in Rebuild are...somewhat...all over the place. As for NGE, considering that the oceans look as blue and healthy as ever, I think that was just a big bloody explosion.
 
It's probably safe to assume it triggered some massive earthquakes. San Andreas, the Cascades, possibly New Madrid, and I think I saw Arizona mentioned. That would cause a catastrophic loss of life in America. At least in the tens of millions. Not to mention all the problems the quakes may cause.

In our forum RP, I estimated that at least one million people died in Arizona alone in the first twenty-four hours after Second Impact; the earthquakes took down every building taller than five stories, and took out everyone who was in them and who was under them when they came down. Fifteen years later, the death toll from Second Impact and the disasters that followed has been revised upwards to more than ten million -- in one state alone.
 
The lack of world building in NGE means we don't know if that is the case for that universe, so all bets are off.
I don't really accept that considering NGE (barring SEELE and it's restoration on discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls) is supposed to take place in our world up until 2I. Thus, conversely, without any evidence I MUST assume the Soviet Union collapsed at the same time it did IRL on December 25, 1991.
 
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I don't really accept that considering NGE (barring SEELE and it's restoration on discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls) is supposed to take place in our world up until 2I. Thus, conversely, without any evidence I MUST assume the Soviet Union collapsed at the same time it did IRL on December 25, 1991.
There's already little signs it did not: The USS Kentucky and USS Illinois, the two Iowa-class battleships Misato shoves down Gaghiel's throat?

They were never completed in our world. Illinois never launched and was broken up on the ways,
and Kentucky only ever had her hull finished:

Note the missing bow piece, which was removed to repair the USS Wisconsin after she suffered a collision. The remains were scrapped in 1959.

That both are fully combat-functional UN Fleet elements in Eva means their world diverged pretty noticeably during WWII, at the least. Everything else being roughly the same is a fair assumption, but you do have to keep in mind we already know there are divergences.
 
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Russia indeed came off fairly well, thanks to being shielded by the bulk of Asia, and the climate shift making Siberia a much better prospect than it once was. They managed to keep the badly hurt PRC at bay by rattling their still substantial Strategic Rocket Forces at them whenever China looked like they were getting ideas of moving north. China decided it had enough to do rebuilding it's shattered coast and tens of millions of casualties from the Impact and effects that it didn't need to start a nuke war of it's own, and left Siberia alone. Russia isn't quite a megapower post-2I, but they're definitely a first-rank peer with Germany, Japan, and the US, which is why one of the public members of the UN Human Instrumentality Committee is Russian, and therefore a top-level member of SEELE as well.

:wtf::confused::oo_O:)HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. no. NO. That is not how Siberia or most of North Eastern Russia works @Strypgia. The infrastructure there is built on the idea that the very ground is either frozen soil or permafrost most of if not all of the year. So global warming combined with economic instability would have turned most of that terrain into a combination of soggy messy ruins of various pieces of infrastructure and the weird looking hills jutting out of the marshy land with nomadic groups roaming through it right after Second Impact. Whether Russia bothered to start reclaiming the land fully yet or is just using it as a buffer zone against China and any other southern or eastern state that would like to invade I couldn't tell you.

The rest of it is a good analysis of the state of Russia in the post-2I world as they would have still had enough infrastructure (Russia's infrastructure is built with a Scorched Earth policy of retreat in mind) left to rebuild into one of the main economic powerhouses and they have probably kept their permanent seat on the UN Security Council. Also China is know for their terrain reclamation efforts in the Pacific and Indian Oceans so I imagine that any border disputes that Russia and China have had probably involved China draining the marsh on their side of the border for space and then trying to take the part on the Russian side of the border that were drained by their reclamation efforts as new land.
 
Good point, I'd forgotten about the permafrost effects, and just how much of Russia turns to ALL THE MUD when things thaw even now. Napoleon and Hitler learned that lesson the hard way, didn't they? :)
 
:wtf::confused::oo_O:)HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. no. NO. That is not how Siberia or most of North Eastern Russia works @Strypgia. The infrastructure there is built on the idea that the very ground is either frozen soil or permafrost most of if not all of the year. So global warming combined with economic instability would have turned most of that terrain into a combination of soggy messy ruins of various pieces of infrastructure and the weird looking hills jutting out of the marshy land with nomadic groups roaming through it right after Second Impact. Whether Russia bothered to start reclaiming the land fully yet or is just using it as a buffer zone against China and any other southern or eastern state that would like to invade I couldn't tell you.

The rest of it is a good analysis of the state of Russia in the post-2I world as they would have still had enough infrastructure (Russia's infrastructure is built with a Scorched Earth policy of retreat in mind) left to rebuild into one of the main economic powerhouses and they have probably kept their permanent seat on the UN Security Council. Also China is know for their terrain reclamation efforts in the Pacific and Indian Oceans so I imagine that any border disputes that Russia and China have had probably involved China draining the marsh on their side of the border for space and then trying to take the part on the Russian side of the border that were drained by their reclamation efforts as new land.
... Not exactly, but fairly accurate. It all depends on the exact region, because Siberia is freaking huge.
Somewhere, global warming would improve agricultural prospects, somewhere, it would dramatically lower the difficulties of mining and extraction of minerals and fossil fuels.
Somewhere, mainly in the western and far eastern parts, it would create a hellish yearly sludgy marsh. And yeah, infrastructure there would be absolutely wrecked...
it's a bit controversial, but the common consensus ( as my geography teacher told me, at least ) is that global warming would benefit to Siberia more than harm it.
That's not here nor there, though. We're gathered here for one common purpose: to watch traumatized teenagers piloting giant robots battle for the fate of humanity. Maybe for some waff, too.
Changes of that kind would neither make Russia the main superpower on the planet, nor would they kick it back into the Stone Age, so let's leave it at that:
Russia, Siberia, global warming, China, eh.
... Of course, we could always create a subforum to argue about it until we all get Tanged. I'm game. ;)
 
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