- Location
- The Middle of the Howling Wilderness
Ehhhh, it's closer than you think. Especially once we get the canal finished. Valleyhome, Lower Valleyhome, and Valleyguard will be able to build Block Housing, if I understand the geography correctly.
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
- Start date
- Original
Ehhhh, it's closer than you think. Especially once we get the canal finished. Valleyhome, Lower Valleyhome, and Valleyguard will be able to build Block Housing, if I understand the geography correctly.
- Location
- United States
That sounds rather problematic, as it seems as though other regions will be using the whole "all are one" thing as a framework, but none of the values associated with our religion will spread to those other regions.
So everyone else will get more powerful religions, but Ymaryn values won't really spread all that far.
*Looks at tally.*
Oh for the love of...
[X] [React] Need more scouts (Sec More Blackbirds + Sec More Spiritbonded)
The nomads literally have a trait that is 'all the heroic martial kings'. We need to assume that the threat of a tribe led by a heroic martial nomad potentially invading us is possible at all times. This means March up ASAP and more light cavalry are both things we need.
Still need more people to switch or vote for scouts for us to not be playing chicken with military because we 'totally have time before the nomads attack us'.
Oh for the love of...
[X] [React] Need more scouts (Sec More Blackbirds + Sec More Spiritbonded)
The nomads literally have a trait that is 'all the heroic martial kings'. We need to assume that the threat of a tribe led by a heroic martial nomad potentially invading us is possible at all times. This means March up ASAP and more light cavalry are both things we need.
Still need more people to switch or vote for scouts for us to not be playing chicken with military because we 'totally have time before the nomads attack us'.
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
- Location
- within 2 hours of the White House
- Pronouns
- They/Them
ah fuck.
VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
- Location
- Anywhere but RL
You could say that our seeds spread themselves and germinate on other people's fields.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
plz stop implyingYou could say that our seeds spread themselves and germinate on other people's fields.
- Location
- Austria
You could say that our seeds spread themselves and germinate on other people's fields.
Well, you know how it goes: if you do not seed your fields, someone else will.
- Location
- Hell
I mean, at least some of our values are going to be going every which way?
So...kinda yay?
Okay
Our Priests are beasts in the sack
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
- Location
- Lickwidget
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Well as far as for what I am doing I don't think this applies since I have martial overflow happening and can pay for it.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I'm talking about what we need to deal with the problems it will cause.
Vote Tally : Original - Paths of Civilization | Page 5065 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 126605-127183]
##### NetTally 1.9.8
Task: MP
[40][MP] Spread the Wealth Around (All Subordinates Receive +0-1 Loyalty)
[24][MP] Trade Excitement (+10 Wealth, +1 Stability from Guild demands)
[8][MP] Royal Investment (+1-2 Free Progress to Dam Project)
[2][MP] Expand Market Further (Redshore Level 3 Market 6/18)
[1][MP] Attract More People to City (Redshore Level 2 Block Housing 6/6)
——————————————————————————————————————————————Task: Int
[46][Int] Attempt to tear out these maniacs, root and branch (-2 Intrigue, -1 Stability, -1 Legitimacy, -1 RA, ???)
[30][Int] Crack down on the puritans (-2 Intrigue, -1 to +1 Stability, ???)
[1][Int] Crack down on the puritans (-2 Intrigue,-1 to +1 Stability, ???)
——————————————————————————————————————————————Task: React
[35][React] Expand Great Hall (2xGreat Hall Annexes)
[30][React] Need more scouts (Sec More Blackbirds + Sec More Spiritbonded)
[5][React] Improve Navy (Main More Warships)
[3][React] Improve Horse Valley Temple (2xSec Temple Actions)
[1][React] Improve Soil Quality (Main Black Soil)
[1][React] Farm (Main Expand Econ, cannot take with switching to Mass Levy)
——————————————————————————————————————————————Task: Ext
[48][Ext] Find out more about what the Highlanders are up to (Main Trade Mission)
[6][Ext] Stay home, farm (Main Expand Econ)
[2][Ext] They are an obvious threat to you and your Games partners (Main War Mission)
-[2][Ext] Change to Mass Levy Policy
[2][Ext] The Storm People could use mercenaries, and you have some
-[2][Ext] SY: Dragon Banner
[2][Ext] Keep sending treasure to the Forhuch(Main Targeted Salt Gift)
[1][Ext] Keep sending treasure to the Forhuch (Main Targeted Salt Gift)
[1][Ext] Freehills could use mercenaries, and you have some
-[1][Ext] FH: Blood Rain Banner
-[1][Ext] Change to Offensive Policy
-[1][Ext] SY: Red Banner
-[1][Ext] SY: Blood Rain Banner
——————————————————————————————————————————————Task: PSN
[34][PSN] Main Expand Econ (-2 Cent + Costs)
[19][PSN] Main Expand Forests (-2 Cent + Costs)
[5][PSN] Main Plant Poppies (-2 Cent + Costs)
[1][PSN] Sec Expand Econ (-1 Cent + Costs)
[1][PSN] Main Plant Cotton (-2 Cent + Costs)
——————————————————————————————————————————————Task: Merc
[1][Merc] Remove Red Banner Company and Dragon Banner from main budget.
Total No. of Voters: 81
Current Tally.
Please math the martial overflow that will be happening here.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Zoroastrianism has had influences on the Abrahamic faiths for a variety of reasons across multiple millennia, so yes, something will survive.
- Location
- Hell
He means the martial overflow if his vote won.
Which is this
Problem is, Trade Excitement is behind by 16 votes so...
- Location
- Austria
It aint winning though
Plus I honestly like the narrative of establishing inter-vassal trade network via Bazaar, even if it's probably a bit too early to call it a truly interconnected trade network.
And loyalty is nice too I guess? I mean, the vote could just give us "Establish better trade with vassals (???)" and I'd be all but hugging it.
@Academia Nut , what is the narrative of Trade Excitement? How does it compare to Spreading the wealth?
I was using that quote specifically because it had 6 actions (+1 from doubling), in contrast to last turn's which only had 5.
What he's voting, not the current leader. Same with me really. Getting a Golden Age (and +10 wealth) is worth so much more than 0.5 average loyalty per subordinate that I'm not going to compromise myself by strategically voting for the inferior option.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
- Location
- Lickwidget
- Pronouns
- She/Her
What I am doing. Please read my post.
I was talking about me, myself and I and not really minding about what others were doing since I knew what was in the tally when I said that.
I was simply stating for ctulhuslp that what he was saying may not apply to everyone, so that he was more accurately informed.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
um, does stability need to be at the absolute possible max or simple >= 3?
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
>= 3 is all we need. We're losing one to our [Int] choice though.
- Location
- Austria
My apologies.
Yes, I know that doing it via chain overflow is an option.
14 + 5 +10 = 29/22 = 22/22 and +7 Martial.
Didn't realize it's so big.
That's double current Martial and is enough for March+Worships. Huh.
@Academia Nut , three more questions please:
1. What does our military advisor say about our chances in war against HK?
2. What does he say about usefulness of cavalry against them?
3. How strong are our three merc companies combined when compared to armies of neighbours?
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
S/L = 3/4 (emboldened) - 1/1 = 2/3
Heaven's Hawks (March) - (L:5/5, D: 2/5)
Western Wall (Colony) - (L: 3/5, D: 1/5)
Greenshore Colony (Colony) - (L: 2/5, D: 2/5)
Tinriver Colony (Colony) - (L: 2/5, D: 2/5)
Txolla (Vassal-Colony) - (L: 5/5, D: 2/5)
Thunder Horse (Vassal) - (L: 5/5, D: 5/5)
Amber Road (Trading Post) - (L: 5/5, D: 2/4)
Red Banner Company (Mercenary Company) - (L: 3/5, E: 7/10)
Dragon Banner (Mercenary Company) - (L: 4/5, E: 8/10)
Blood Rain Banner Company (Mercenary Company) - (L: 3/5, E: 5/10)
Heaven's Hawks (March) - (L:5/5, D: 2/5)
Western Wall (Colony) - (L: 3/5, D: 1/5)
Greenshore Colony (Colony) - (L: 2/5, D: 2/5)
Tinriver Colony (Colony) - (L: 2/5, D: 2/5)
Txolla (Vassal-Colony) - (L: 5/5, D: 2/5)
Thunder Horse (Vassal) - (L: 5/5, D: 5/5)
Amber Road (Trading Post) - (L: 5/5, D: 2/4)
Red Banner Company (Mercenary Company) - (L: 3/5, E: 7/10)
Dragon Banner (Mercenary Company) - (L: 4/5, E: 8/10)
Blood Rain Banner Company (Mercenary Company) - (L: 3/5, E: 5/10)
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Yes and his full vote isn't going to win because that much loyalty is that important, even if it's only potential, and a lot of the thread realizes that now.
You aren't voting in a vacuum, no good new arguments for voting in wealth +stability are coming up and it is way behind, so what you are doing is supporting a vote that will risk us not being able to build a march next turn.
I have serious issues with people voting in any way that threatens to leave what is basically a highway for nomads into our vassals undefended, especially when we are dealing with nomads that are getting light cavalry and a constant stream of heroic martial leaders.
- Location
- Austria
I am surprised "it can wait one more turn whats the worst that could happen" is not a quest tag by this point.
Hell, I'm surprised "one more turn" isn't a quest tag.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
- Location
- Lickwidget
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Couple things:
It's not going to win, I know that with pretty large certainty since we've essentially reached peak voter population which means that me voting one way or another is not very high up on my list of priorities. And I really don't appreciate someone getting on me about it just because I am not doing what they are. (E: the fact that it is way behind basically invalidates the second part of your first paragraph, since if it is far enough back to be way behind it is far enough back to not be a risk)
And if what I am voting somehow did win the very next thing I would push for would be a March, because I actually share your viewpoint.
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- Location
- Australia
[X] [MP] Trade Excitement (+10 Wealth, +1 Stability from Guild demands)
[X] [Int] Crack down on the puritans (-2 Intrigue, -1 to +1 Stability, ???)
[X] [Ext] Keep sending treasure to the Forhuch(Main Targeted Salt Gift)
[X] [React] Need more scouts (Sec More Blackbirds + Sec More Spiritbonded)
[X] [PSN] Main Expand Forests (-2 Cent + Costs)
[X] [Int] Crack down on the puritans (-2 Intrigue, -1 to +1 Stability, ???)
[X] [Ext] Keep sending treasure to the Forhuch(Main Targeted Salt Gift)
[X] [React] Need more scouts (Sec More Blackbirds + Sec More Spiritbonded)
[X] [PSN] Main Expand Forests (-2 Cent + Costs)