Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
- Start date
- Original
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
The whole point of the goodwill is that gold is walking into their trap, and maybe with goodwill they rethink it.
More Warships would be great, but we're too broke to take it without tanking Stability. It'll have to wait.
We fought them at Naval 2. They just got us down to naval 0 (1) because Hero.
@Academia Nut - that is what happened, right? We took TWO Naval damage from Pirates this turn?
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
- Location
- Lickwidget
- Pronouns
- She/Her
We were at Naval 1 post Reforms III from what I recall. Somewhere in there.
- Location
- Austria
I am not misquoting you. 27/28 is what remains after Ironworks and your whole plan relies on praying Balanced+Infra x3 (or x5 looking at your vote) will not consume more than 1 fuel.
- Location
- The Deep Blue Sea
Okay but why? Because their ancestors were dicks centuries ago? Because we haven't talked to them in a long time? Because that's the meme of the thread? None of those are good reasons to avoid getting them on our side.
Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
And now we can't build roads >.>
The Ymaryn have long memories.
Nah, this was a result of the Second Sons and Plague. We spammed Cent raising actions to solve the crisis without knowing our cap and then had the Plague end, lowering our cap.
Horologer
Incertae sedis
- Location
- a risen sea
We were at Naval 2 at first, then we went to Naval 1, and now we're at Naval 0.
God-kings are almost invariably bad news, and the fact that they've got a lot of Intrigue makes me suspicious. Not much to go on, I admit, but while they haven't done anything horrible recently, they also haven't done anything to earn my trust, either.
They're also blaming us for their religious civil war, which strikes me as particularly eye-roll worthy.
Right; and that was this turn. We started the turn at 2 naval, lost 1, and now lost another.
VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
- Location
- Anywhere but RL
Compared with what they had before, a mature faction power (5) kicked to (relatively low) immature faction power(4)? Losing the faction ability, while the other factions are making gains? They will be livid, the bad rolls can happen again; as we witnessed in the trader quest with civil war for failure penalty.
- Location
- The Deep Blue Sea
Then they should remember that the people who were dicks to us have long since rotted away
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Dude, he's saying that 25/28 is a strategic reserve that he wants to use up to put out fires this turn.
Are you just trying to argue in bad faith or something?
Romv
A Memory of TREES
[X] [Art] The entire half-exile practice should be reviewed (-1 Stability, ???)
There's no way I'm letting this opportunity slip away. Not after I got jumped when suggesting Black Soil would be a good action and people went slanderously sliding down the slippery slope of slavery. You know what's actually risking slavery? Having na institution that will apparently turn us into slavers at the drop of a black soil filled hat.
Not that this vote has any chance of winning, probably.
I'll complete my vote after work, when I don't have to wrestle with my phone.
There's no way I'm letting this opportunity slip away. Not after I got jumped when suggesting Black Soil would be a good action and people went slanderously sliding down the slippery slope of slavery. You know what's actually risking slavery? Having na institution that will apparently turn us into slavers at the drop of a black soil filled hat.
Not that this vote has any chance of winning, probably.
I'll complete my vote after work, when I don't have to wrestle with my phone.
- Location
- Meycauayan, Bulacan, Philippines
[X] [Art] The entire half-exile practice should be reviewed (-1 Stability, ???)
[X] [Policy] Diplomacy (+1 Diplo/turn)
[X] [Policy] Skullduggery (+1 Intrigue/turn, -2 Diplo)
[X] [Policy] Armament (+1 Martial/turn)
[X] [Policy] Defence (+1 significant walls/turn)
[X] [Policy] Special: Forestry (+1 Sustainable Forest and -1 Econ Expansion/2 turns)
[X] [HK] Offer to send military aid
-[X] [HK] Offensive Policy
Folks, we should expand the forests, again! Forests also serve to break up armies, no? And jungle warfare is one of the toughest kinds of fighting there is! So Forests!
Go Forests!
I also have a problem with the tolls the Trelli are imposing.
Do we need them? We have Catamarans! The fastest sailboats possible! They may be shitty for fighting but what if the idea is to go blockade running? Outrun anyone else possible.
Also, any new maps of the current situation?
[X] [Policy] Diplomacy (+1 Diplo/turn)
[X] [Policy] Skullduggery (+1 Intrigue/turn, -2 Diplo)
[X] [Policy] Armament (+1 Martial/turn)
[X] [Policy] Defence (+1 significant walls/turn)
[X] [Policy] Special: Forestry (+1 Sustainable Forest and -1 Econ Expansion/2 turns)
[X] [HK] Offer to send military aid
-[X] [HK] Offensive Policy
Folks, we should expand the forests, again! Forests also serve to break up armies, no? And jungle warfare is one of the toughest kinds of fighting there is! So Forests!
Go Forests!
I also have a problem with the tolls the Trelli are imposing.
Do we need them? We have Catamarans! The fastest sailboats possible! They may be shitty for fighting but what if the idea is to go blockade running? Outrun anyone else possible.
Also, any new maps of the current situation?
It is, but it burns fuel we need badly
Note that Forest Cap is not "theres no more trees" its "the priests say you must stop".
As per RL, people were always willing to flout religious decree if there was sufficient profit.
Freehills doesn't even HAVE Grand Docks.
Also that the monotheists will be a pain for us if we don't help scatter their legitimacy.
Besides, like Freehills, a micronation in the Games is pure good for us.
Yes, and 27/28 is not a strategic reserve. The reserves is what we start with and are using up so we don't have to do kilns now.
Like, if I tell you "I kept some lunch in reserve", after which I should you a bunch of food and then eat most of it, it is misquoting me to point to the remainder and say "you call that a reserve?"
- Pronouns
- They/Them
To be fair, we do have Pilgrimage dominance and I suspect that means Mylathadism is now spreading wildly beyond our control. I would not be surprised to discover the Mountain Horse, the Harmurri, or random tribes of steppe nomads had been converted.
- Location
- Austria
@PrimalShadow
No, but seriously, do you not even realize that if provinces+passives take even 1 Ironworks we are on fire? Literally 1 single misstep.
And more broadly, do you even understand that we have thousands of years ahead of us and slow and steady wins on this timescale? Or at least not too fast.
Do you have any idea that there is a difference between development as fast as possible and sustainable development?
No? His plan includes Ironworks that eat 2 slots, that's 27/28. As long as provinces do take more than one iteration of Baths or take Ironworks we are utterly fucked.
No, but seriously, do you not even realize that if provinces+passives take even 1 Ironworks we are on fire? Literally 1 single misstep.
And more broadly, do you even understand that we have thousands of years ahead of us and slow and steady wins on this timescale? Or at least not too fast.
Do you have any idea that there is a difference between development as fast as possible and sustainable development?
No? His plan includes Ironworks that eat 2 slots, that's 27/28. As long as provinces do take more than one iteration of Baths or take Ironworks we are utterly fucked.
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Here's hoping they can build one? Maybe we'll get an option to send them experts and materials.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
They could also build a Governor's Palace and leave us with only a two secondaries to use due to overcentralization penalties; do you think they'll do that? It's exactly the same thing.
- Location
- Austria
Becuase they *can*, with one misstep, set us on fire. And the probability is not even low: one unit of Ironworks will do it.
And, like, it's not even for something ultra-useful: he just replaced Kilns with Ironworks, which we could build next turn in other Guold slot. With this massive massive gamble we win.....1 turn with Ironworks 2. That's it.
Horologer
Incertae sedis
- Location
- a risen sea
Sure, but it's not like we kicked in the door and converted them at spear-point.
I'm not strongly opposed to handing them our mercs free of charge, but I'm definitely not enthused by the idea.
Probably just cheaper to build boats ourselves, but that's actually a good diplomatic investment to think about when we have more spare resources.