- Location
- Huezil
this arc will haunt us forever
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
- Start date
- Original
this arc will haunt us forever
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
Moved closer? We moved farther away. We just gained better sea access.
*shrug* We can always salt gift them <3
*husky breath* khem-kun, would you like... a blood-dripped snail?
I don't view it as a gain tbh. It's interesting but not a solid positive.
All of the positives I applied are in terms of pros/cons in continuing the war.
The past is past; move past it.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
- Location
- Lickwidget
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Ehh. I'll probably just associate it with a specific sequence of pictures of cute animals.
That way whenever it is brought up I'll just think of that particular sequence. I'll probably start with a hippo.
- Location
- Voidbetweenstars
Learn from past to prevent repeats bro.
- Pronouns
- They/Them
@Academia Nut, what caused the further stability loss this phase? Was it a Terrify backfire, or combat losses? Is this just the usual result with an unproductive war?
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
eh
learning? sure. Mourning? no.
The lesson is not that we should not act from ideology but rather that we should more actively consider things from the PoV of our neighbors alternative value system.
- Location
- Australia
@Academia Nut, what advice do our Spirit Chief and War Chief have for us?
ThatGazzer
Minds Eye Bind
- Location
- PNW
- Pronouns
- They/Them
[X] [King] Embrace the Absurd
[X] [War] Keep fighting (2 Econ temp damage, +2 Econ next turn)
If you're going to walk through a mile of shit, with a mind to get to the other side, ya don't stop halfway through the damned thing.
[X] [War] Keep fighting (2 Econ temp damage, +2 Econ next turn)
If you're going to walk through a mile of shit, with a mind to get to the other side, ya don't stop halfway through the damned thing.
- Location
- Voidbetweenstars
I am picking sadness for the king to hopefully have our priesthood take all the fire.
- Location
- The willow crowned hill
- Pronouns
- She/They
[X] [King] Embrace Numbness
[X] [War] Keep fighting (2 Econ temp damage, +2 Econ next turn)
[X] [War] Keep fighting (2 Econ temp damage, +2 Econ next turn)
Presumably, we would try to explain that our reasons were not so irrational.
- Location
- The Deep Blue Sea
Actually sticking up for our morals, for one thing
- Location
- Voidbetweenstars
But they were irrational.
VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
- Location
- Anywhere but RL
=_= Our land contact remained in place (Gunvalley/Hatvvalley with KH colony) but gaining access to the not!Mediterranean sea jumps our threat rating up to the top of KH chart.
Before both sides are throwing piles of warriors within none-core area, but strait access for us will be indescribable threatening in their view.
I'm actually putting down a baseline so that when going to War inevitably wins and then likely goes wrong, I have something to add things to later.
You say that, and yet I've seen a number of people arguing that they they voted for the and would have voted the same way even knowing how it turned out; in fact, I've seen more of that than I've seen people "oops, guess my vote was wrong".
- Location
- Huezil
I would't say irrational, but a decision that lacked the actual ruthless, coldness and methodological analysis necessary for a war.
Spectrum
Tell me a secret~
- Location
- Behind you~
No, the lesson has always been opportunity cost and scenario evaluation and it's a lesson that will never be learned.
This was a pointless war that didn't need to be fought given the drought and our current circumstances, regardless of how well or how hilariously poorly it has gone. We had and still have a billion other things that needed doing with how massively overextended we were and how we were just recovering from another big war.
- Location
- Voidbetweenstars
And bringing emotions into a war makes it worse then any hell.
Shall I bring up some wars that were started for moral/ideals?
I almost went on a rant again.
- Location
- United States
If the Khem felt so threatened by us potentially gaining the strait, then why didn't they threaten/warn us? They could've told us not to take it, or flat out threaten to aid the Trelli if we continued the war. All they did was cut diplomatic ties though.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
why? If we wanted to attack them we could just lug our longboats over the river. Attacking their home territory isn't worthwhile. The damage we could cause would gain us much, much more by using the same amount of force to attack the HK, attack KH colonies, etc. Land > loot.
Ehhhh Why is it a pointless war? We freed slaves; a clear point.
Admittedly we could have done the canal which would have damaged their economics regardless and further weakened their society in the midst of a civil war... *coughs and glances away* I suppose you're right.
- Location
- Voidbetweenstars
We could have done that with any of the wars.
Our gods have smitten someone with a star, are super-against slavery and then we learn that slaves rebel against the extremely bad version of slavery nearby. Ignoring it had all the chances of angering the gods, and we all know what happens when our gods are angered. Clearly, it doesn't work exactly like that, since the war's going poorly and so lacks much of a divine support, but the was a reason to start it.
And we wanted a strait, maybe.
- Location
- New Zealand
I'm sorry Yshyun, you didn't deserve this.
[X] [King] Embrace Madness
[X] [King] Embrace the Absurd
Be free.
[X] [War] Offer reparations for damages and universal manumission of Trelli slaves (-15 Wealth, -1 Stability, chance of further loss, -7-8 Econ Expansion, 7 temp Econ damage, +7-8 Econ next turn, current trader quest fails, ???
Manumission means the slave owners free all their slaves, I googled it. That's all I was looking for out of this, so let's get it. People are more valuable than money.
Who cares about Trelli's land? Our boats work just fine on rivers and there are other trade options. We can always build the canal near Gulvalley to connect to the Khem and we have yet to even explore the lands southeast of our Ham friends.
[X] [King] Embrace Madness
[X] [King] Embrace the Absurd
Be free.
[X] [War] Offer reparations for damages and universal manumission of Trelli slaves (-15 Wealth, -1 Stability, chance of further loss, -7-8 Econ Expansion, 7 temp Econ damage, +7-8 Econ next turn, current trader quest fails, ???
Manumission means the slave owners free all their slaves, I googled it. That's all I was looking for out of this, so let's get it. People are more valuable than money.
Who cares about Trelli's land? Our boats work just fine on rivers and there are other trade options. We can always build the canal near Gulvalley to connect to the Khem and we have yet to even explore the lands southeast of our Ham friends.
- Location
- Huezil
My actual plan was start to build the canal and wait the Trelli attack to stop it, so we could annex them with rightful fury.