Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
- Location
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Pronouns
- He/his
Again. We have the seer conspiracy looking out for that.
Dragon Ball: After the End
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
I totally agree. Study Magic is my idea of a good 'base-level' action. It's useful on general principles, and it lets us make informed decisions about what Dandeer can and can't do. We can decide what precautions to take, on top of support among the Seers, once we have that going for us.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Okay, here's my hat thrown into the ring...
[] Plan Training Montage
-[] Maintain Grades
-[] Better Living Through Ki
-[] The Ship Has Been Sunk, Now Hand Out the Life Preservers
-[] Train Maya
--[] Rise slowly to displayed power levels close to her maximum, and keep pacing her, to push her to excel and be safer in combat.
-[] A Scion's Stewardship, Human-Facing
-[] A Scion's Stewardship
-[] Command Theory
-[] Train Tien Style
--[] Train with Mom
-[] Study Jaffur's Form
--[] With Mato
-[] Research Project: Perfect Multiform
-[] Transcendence
-[] Train With Sensei
-[] Study Magic
-[] Contact Jaffur
[Plan de-X'd, because it had seventeen actions. Revised version of the plan is found on Page 602, here]
My priorities and reasoning:
1) We keep our grades up, but we don't burn irreplaceable actions on improving them for indirect social benefits.
2) There's enough support for Better Living Through Ki that I wanted to throw it in. Training our friends in hopes that they'll at least understand what we're dealing with and not die of going 'squish' in case war breaks out again seems like a good idea. I could be talked out of it. I want to train Maya specifically because she is a very valuable ally, not just a soldier in Berra's army.
Also, remember Berra has an action economy too. His actions are being used to organize the saiyans to fight the aliens, and to lead the transition to a new phase of the Masquerade following the breach. Making him burn an action training Maya may not be a good deal, especially since he probably has fewer total actions than we do.
3) Putting a lot of actions into training leadership skills and generalship is likely to pay off in the long run, as well as giving us much greater influence over events in the short-term than we've had in the past (except, perhaps, at Second Garenhuld).
4) Training Tien Style is just common sense; training Jaffur Style with Mato is a good way to bring him into our circle of allies and friends in a useful way. Even if he's legally barred from going super-saiyan for now, that may change in the future if things get crazy, and he can still operate on the power levels we need to fight the scouts if he trains for it. The Style may also let us 'punch above our weight' in useful ways in future combats.
5) Continuing to make progress towards Perfect Multiform, Elite Ki Sense, Machine Sense, and other benefits of refining our phenomenal ki talents seems important. If Kakara has the potential to be more than the average (high-end) saiyan warrior in terms of physical abilities, it is going to pass through skills like that.
Furthermore, we may need those skills in two years, or five. Delaying a year and making no progress on them isn't going to be in our interests over the long haul.
6) Training with Sensei to improve our Seer powers is a must. Contacting Jaffur is basically a must, especially since he's already starting to break out of the Seal from his side. Studying magic to learn a little about its potential is something we've considered for a long time, and it'll help us get a better sense for what Dandeer is capable of as a threat. That way, we don't have to either take shots in the dark to 'prepare against' unknown threats. AND we don't have to just trust that other people can cover for us.
[] Plan Training Montage
-[] Maintain Grades
-[] Better Living Through Ki
-[] The Ship Has Been Sunk, Now Hand Out the Life Preservers
-[] Train Maya
--[] Rise slowly to displayed power levels close to her maximum, and keep pacing her, to push her to excel and be safer in combat.
-[] A Scion's Stewardship, Human-Facing
-[] A Scion's Stewardship
-[] Command Theory
-[] Train Tien Style
--[] Train with Mom
-[] Study Jaffur's Form
--[] With Mato
-[] Research Project: Perfect Multiform
-[] Transcendence
-[] Train With Sensei
-[] Study Magic
-[] Contact Jaffur
[Plan de-X'd, because it had seventeen actions. Revised version of the plan is found on Page 602, here]
My priorities and reasoning:
1) We keep our grades up, but we don't burn irreplaceable actions on improving them for indirect social benefits.
2) There's enough support for Better Living Through Ki that I wanted to throw it in. Training our friends in hopes that they'll at least understand what we're dealing with and not die of going 'squish' in case war breaks out again seems like a good idea. I could be talked out of it. I want to train Maya specifically because she is a very valuable ally, not just a soldier in Berra's army.
Also, remember Berra has an action economy too. His actions are being used to organize the saiyans to fight the aliens, and to lead the transition to a new phase of the Masquerade following the breach. Making him burn an action training Maya may not be a good deal, especially since he probably has fewer total actions than we do.
3) Putting a lot of actions into training leadership skills and generalship is likely to pay off in the long run, as well as giving us much greater influence over events in the short-term than we've had in the past (except, perhaps, at Second Garenhuld).
4) Training Tien Style is just common sense; training Jaffur Style with Mato is a good way to bring him into our circle of allies and friends in a useful way. Even if he's legally barred from going super-saiyan for now, that may change in the future if things get crazy, and he can still operate on the power levels we need to fight the scouts if he trains for it. The Style may also let us 'punch above our weight' in useful ways in future combats.
5) Continuing to make progress towards Perfect Multiform, Elite Ki Sense, Machine Sense, and other benefits of refining our phenomenal ki talents seems important. If Kakara has the potential to be more than the average (high-end) saiyan warrior in terms of physical abilities, it is going to pass through skills like that.
Furthermore, we may need those skills in two years, or five. Delaying a year and making no progress on them isn't going to be in our interests over the long haul.
6) Training with Sensei to improve our Seer powers is a must. Contacting Jaffur is basically a must, especially since he's already starting to break out of the Seal from his side. Studying magic to learn a little about its potential is something we've considered for a long time, and it'll help us get a better sense for what Dandeer is capable of as a threat. That way, we don't have to either take shots in the dark to 'prepare against' unknown threats. AND we don't have to just trust that other people can cover for us.
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- Location
- Somewhere I shouldn't be
My preference would be to drop training Maya and Studying Magic for Drama Club, but I can support the rest of that plan.
[X] Plan Training Montage
If we dropped Transcendence, we could reflect on Oddball. Who KNOWS what that mystery box could open up into!
[X] Plan Training Montage
If we dropped Transcendence, we could reflect on Oddball. Who KNOWS what that mystery box could open up into!
[X] Plan Training Montage
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
I'm actually a bit confused about how to make sure MY vote gets counted given that Poptart plans to delete all the -[k] votes from the count. Anyone with "Marked for Death" experience have any suggestions?
I'd rather reflect on Oddball after we achieve transcendence. That sounds like the road to Looney Tunes.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Is the moratorium over then?
[X]Plan Deathbybunnies
-[X] Maintain Grades (2 actions)
-[X] Better Living Through Ki (1 action)
-[X] The Ship Has Been Sunk, Now Hand Out the Life Preservers (1 action)
-[X] A Scion's Stewardship, Human-Facing (2 actions)
-[X] Command Theory (1 action)
-[X] Train Style [Tien] (1 action) x3
-[X] Train With Sensei (1 action)
-[X] Study Magic (1 action)
-[X] Contacting Jaffur (1 action)
-[X] Research Project (1 action) [Perfect Multiform]
-[X] Transcendence (1 action) x2
-[X] Where possible to do without risking what remains of the Masquerade, spend time in our Saiyan Masque.
It's pretty similar to @Simon_Jester 's plan, but drops Study Jaffur's form (which I'm inclined to give Mato a head-start on anyway) and training up Maya (which kind-of-sort-of crosses over with Life preservers, especially the social part) for a second Transcendence to make it possible to succeed this turn, and a second Train Tien Style, which is useful both because training an entire style and new moves is going to take a lot of actions, but also helps cover for the fact that we're really much better at Multiform than we have any right to be.
Also, I'm only doing the Human Stewardship action, because I think doing both is just overkill.
EDIT: Whoops, only had 15 actions! I added a third Tien Style - it was either that or a second Research: Perfect Multiform, but given just how many techniques we need to learn to train the style, it could probably use the investment.
EDIT: Added Saiyan Masque
[X]Plan Deathbybunnies
-[X] Maintain Grades (2 actions)
-[X] Better Living Through Ki (1 action)
-[X] The Ship Has Been Sunk, Now Hand Out the Life Preservers (1 action)
-[X] A Scion's Stewardship, Human-Facing (2 actions)
-[X] Command Theory (1 action)
-[X] Train Style [Tien] (1 action) x3
-[X] Train With Sensei (1 action)
-[X] Study Magic (1 action)
-[X] Contacting Jaffur (1 action)
-[X] Research Project (1 action) [Perfect Multiform]
-[X] Transcendence (1 action) x2
-[X] Where possible to do without risking what remains of the Masquerade, spend time in our Saiyan Masque.
It's pretty similar to @Simon_Jester 's plan, but drops Study Jaffur's form (which I'm inclined to give Mato a head-start on anyway) and training up Maya (which kind-of-sort-of crosses over with Life preservers, especially the social part) for a second Transcendence to make it possible to succeed this turn, and a second Train Tien Style, which is useful both because training an entire style and new moves is going to take a lot of actions, but also helps cover for the fact that we're really much better at Multiform than we have any right to be.
Also, I'm only doing the Human Stewardship action, because I think doing both is just overkill.
EDIT: Whoops, only had 15 actions! I added a third Tien Style - it was either that or a second Research: Perfect Multiform, but given just how many techniques we need to learn to train the style, it could probably use the investment.
EDIT: Added Saiyan Masque
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Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
[X] Plan NEVER SLACK
-[x] School
-[x] School
-[x] School
-[x] Tien Style
-[x] Tien Style
-[x] Drama Club
-[x] Drama Club
-[x] Contact Jaffur
-[x] Train the Misfits in ki
-[x] A Scion's Stewardship, Human-Facing
-[x] A Scion's Stewardship, Human-Facing
-[x] A Scion's Stewardship, Saiyan-Facing
-[x] A Scion's Stewardship, Saiyan-Facing
-[x] Transcendence
-[x] Transcendence
-[x] Perfect Multiform
-[x] School
-[x] School
-[x] School
-[x] Tien Style
-[x] Tien Style
-[x] Drama Club
-[x] Drama Club
-[x] Contact Jaffur
-[x] Train the Misfits in ki
-[x] A Scion's Stewardship, Human-Facing
-[x] A Scion's Stewardship, Human-Facing
-[x] A Scion's Stewardship, Saiyan-Facing
-[x] A Scion's Stewardship, Saiyan-Facing
-[x] Transcendence
-[x] Transcendence
-[x] Perfect Multiform
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
He would've tried something. Then it depended on your reaction.
Well, you have the, "[X] Plan Name," bit, which gets counted, so you get counted normally.
Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
- Location
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Pronouns
- He/his
@Simon_Jester you have 17 actions in your plan. We have 16.
[] Plan Training Montage
[X] Plan Bakka
-[x] Maintain Grades (2 actions):
-[x] My Best Friend (1 action, Jaron):
-[x] Better Living Through Ki (1 action):
-[x] The Ship Has Been Sunk, Now Hand Out the Life Preservers (1 action):
-[x] Train Maya (1 action):
--[X] Rise slowly to displayed power levels close to her maximum, and keep pacing her, to push her to excel and be safer in combat.
-[x] A Scion's Stewardship, Human-Facing (2 actions):
-[x] Command Theory (1 action):
-[x] Train Style [Tien] (1 action):
-[x] Train With Sensei (1 action):
-[x] A Scion's Stewardship (2 actions):
-[x] Contacting Jaffur (1 action):
-[x] Transcendence (1 action):
-[X] Research Project (1 action) [Perfect Multiform]
Perfect multiform to level multiform to exceptional and get an extra action next turn.
Only one action in trascendence because two actions only gives us less than 10 % chance of completing it while taking 3 actions in two years in a row get us up to 50%. Sincé it will take us at least 2 years, no need to rush it.
Social Jaron to finally integrate him and uncover his charácter sheet.
[] Plan Training Montage
[X] Plan Bakka
-[x] Maintain Grades (2 actions):
-[x] My Best Friend (1 action, Jaron):
-[x] Better Living Through Ki (1 action):
-[x] The Ship Has Been Sunk, Now Hand Out the Life Preservers (1 action):
-[x] Train Maya (1 action):
--[X] Rise slowly to displayed power levels close to her maximum, and keep pacing her, to push her to excel and be safer in combat.
-[x] A Scion's Stewardship, Human-Facing (2 actions):
-[x] Command Theory (1 action):
-[x] Train Style [Tien] (1 action):
-[x] Train With Sensei (1 action):
-[x] A Scion's Stewardship (2 actions):
-[x] Contacting Jaffur (1 action):
-[x] Transcendence (1 action):
-[X] Research Project (1 action) [Perfect Multiform]
Perfect multiform to level multiform to exceptional and get an extra action next turn.
Only one action in trascendence because two actions only gives us less than 10 % chance of completing it while taking 3 actions in two years in a row get us up to 50%. Sincé it will take us at least 2 years, no need to rush it.
Social Jaron to finally integrate him and uncover his charácter sheet.
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- Location
- Somewhere I shouldn't be
That sounds like the road to Looney Tunes.
New Ki Tricks:
1. Anvil creation. Must happen in mid-air.
2. Selectively passable walls. People you designate, and only those people, may interact with a painted tunnel on a wall as if it were real.
3. Restoration. Any physical wounds on the target are immediately healed, restoring them to their base state. This can only occur when no one is looking at them.
4. Strangely Specific Silhouette. When knocked through any solid object, you or persons you hit will cause minimal collateral damage, typically only a hole in exactly (down to the hairstyle) the shape of their body.
5. Lesser confusion. By establishing a pattern of call and response, then intentionally violating it, you can cause an antagonist to momentarily completely change their position on an issue.
To be honest, most of the crap we see in Looney Tunes would be horrifying in real life.
Sucal
The Devil’s Cut
- Location
- Bottom of the barrel
- Location
- Somewhere I shouldn't be
Gentlemen (and women), our course is clear.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
You already have it.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Actually, I count 15? Which is still wrong, but a better wrong.
EDIT: Wait, my own plan is also 15 action. Whoops!
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The Fourth Monado
S U B A R A S H I I
- Location
- Away
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Lunaryon
Dual Aurora Wave
- Pronouns
- She/Her
[X]Plan can this get even 5 votes?
-[X]Slack
-[X] Set the record straight
-[X] Transcendence
-[X] Transcendence
-[X] Transcendence
-[X] Transcendence
-[X] Transcendence
-[X] Transcendence
-[X] Transcendence
-[X] Transcendence
-[X] Transcendence
-[X] Transcendence
-[X] Transcendence
-[X] Transcendence
-[X] Transcendence
-[X] Transcendence
[X] Plan Ascension
-[X] Maintain Grades (2 actions): You're good where you are, and you have a lot to do. Let's just get the effort in to stick it out and then focus on other things. Effect: Maintain grades.
-[X] My Best Friend (1 action, may be taken more than once): Maya
-[X] Better Living Through Ki (1 action)
-[X] The Ship Has Been Sunk, Now Hand Out the Life Preservers (1 action)
-[X] Train Maya (1 action):
-[X] A Scion's Stewardship, Human-Facing (2 actions):
-[X] A Scion's Stewardship (2 actions):
-[X] Contacting Jaffur (1 action): MAKE SURE TO TELL HIM ABOUT THE INVASION
-[X] Study Magic (1 action)
-[X] Command Theory (1 action):
-[X] Study Jaffur's Form (1 action):
-[X] With Mato. Effects: Social with Mato, two minds working in concert on the problem instead of separately.
-[X] Research Project (1 action) - Golden Oozaru
-[X] Transcendence
-[X]Slack
-[X] Set the record straight
-[X] Transcendence
-[X] Transcendence
-[X] Transcendence
-[X] Transcendence
-[X] Transcendence
-[X] Transcendence
-[X] Transcendence
-[X] Transcendence
-[X] Transcendence
-[X] Transcendence
-[X] Transcendence
-[X] Transcendence
-[X] Transcendence
-[X] Transcendence
[X] Plan Ascension
-[X] Maintain Grades (2 actions): You're good where you are, and you have a lot to do. Let's just get the effort in to stick it out and then focus on other things. Effect: Maintain grades.
-[X] My Best Friend (1 action, may be taken more than once): Maya
-[X] Better Living Through Ki (1 action)
-[X] The Ship Has Been Sunk, Now Hand Out the Life Preservers (1 action)
-[X] Train Maya (1 action):
-[X] A Scion's Stewardship, Human-Facing (2 actions):
-[X] A Scion's Stewardship (2 actions):
-[X] Contacting Jaffur (1 action): MAKE SURE TO TELL HIM ABOUT THE INVASION
-[X] Study Magic (1 action)
-[X] Command Theory (1 action):
-[X] Study Jaffur's Form (1 action):
-[X] With Mato. Effects: Social with Mato, two minds working in concert on the problem instead of separately.
-[X] Research Project (1 action) - Golden Oozaru
-[X] Transcendence
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
I added a third Tien Style to my plan, since to level it we effectively have to level four techniques, three of which we've never even used before, and then practice using them all together. It's going to take a lot of work.
...You know we already have Golden Oozaru, right?
Lunaryon
Dual Aurora Wave
- Pronouns
- She/Her
yeah, but we did it on accident, and haven't studied it further.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
@KaintukeeBob , @Thriceboiled , @Bakkasama , please note that I am resolved to fix the flaw in "Plan Training Montage." You don't need to unvote it; it will be fixed to have sixteen actions. I am actively soliciting input as to which action to cut.
2 actions with school (Maintain Grades)
3 actions with friends (Better Living Through Ki, Hand Out Life Preservers, Train Maya)
5 actions with 'prepare to be next Lady Goku' (Stewardship x2, Command Theory)
4 actions to train ki techniques and combat techniques (Tien Style, Jaffur Form, Perfect Multiform, Transcendence)
3 related to the mysteries and the conspiracy (Train with Sensei, Study Magic, Contact Jaffur)
Okay, yes, that is seventeen. What do you suggest that I drop outright, as opposed to swapping for something else? It looks like your plan drops 'Study Magic.' I'm including that in part to address the fears of the people who are worried about Dandeer using her sorcery in dangerous ways. That's a reasonable fear, and I'm not sure I want to entirely ignore it.
My own inclination would be to cut Command Theory, because while I like the idea of pursuing it, we'll be committing a tremendous amount of energy to our budding proto-Ladyship as it is if we double up on Stewardship.
Another possibility is to drop ONE of the Stewardships and take a single-action item instead. Not sure what to do with the action thus freed up. I could actually get behind spending the extra action befriending one of the Misfits, either Maya or Jaron- normally I'd oppose that, but I think that a bit more semi-normal socialization with them might be good for Kakara's mental health given how much else she's got on her plate.
[Of course, saiyans THRIVE on greatly overloaded plates]
Let me check your count.
2 actions with school (Maintain Grades)
3 actions with friends (Better Living Through Ki, Hand Out Life Preservers, Train Maya)
5 actions with 'prepare to be next Lady Goku' (Stewardship x2, Command Theory)
4 actions to train ki techniques and combat techniques (Tien Style, Jaffur Form, Perfect Multiform, Transcendence)
3 related to the mysteries and the conspiracy (Train with Sensei, Study Magic, Contact Jaffur)
Okay, yes, that is seventeen. What do you suggest that I drop outright, as opposed to swapping for something else? It looks like your plan drops 'Study Magic.' I'm including that in part to address the fears of the people who are worried about Dandeer using her sorcery in dangerous ways. That's a reasonable fear, and I'm not sure I want to entirely ignore it.
My own inclination would be to cut Command Theory, because while I like the idea of pursuing it, we'll be committing a tremendous amount of energy to our budding proto-Ladyship as it is if we double up on Stewardship.
Another possibility is to drop ONE of the Stewardships and take a single-action item instead. Not sure what to do with the action thus freed up. I could actually get behind spending the extra action befriending one of the Misfits, either Maya or Jaron- normally I'd oppose that, but I think that a bit more semi-normal socialization with them might be good for Kakara's mental health given how much else she's got on her plate.
[Of course, saiyans THRIVE on greatly overloaded plates]
We've hit the form's maximum power level, or at least as close as we can get to it without blowing up the Training Hall's wards. I'm not at all sure it's smart or safe to push that form further, and we almost certainly won't be using it this year or next.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
I don't think we need to spend actions on command theory the rewards are uncertain and The Scion duties actions should give us plenty of leadership experience.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Oh, you're taking both Stewardships? You should label them both with the respective races, I thought you were taking one and then wrote it a second time to show it takes 2 actions.
I guess that's another difference between our plans - I'm of the opinion that doing both is overkill.
It's likely our only way of overcoming the explicit training cap on Command Training, except via events like battles.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
You are joking right? Our big problem with the scouts was not being able to find them.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
Both actions say that they are better an other two actions. So might as well do them. Also we gain much more power and influence. They are also both Training actions.
Then we should do it by battles. We are very short on actions.
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