Paths of Civilization

Academia Nut · Jul 28, 2017

maximillian said:
Oi folks, we are at war here, we need to send a main or secondary war mission, our situation is precarious.

We can skip the study metal. An arsenal with support artisans should have the desired effect. It gives us the Arsenal and the general support should net us some kind of advance.

Provinces can do the minimum requirement if need be.

Andres110 said:
@Academia Nut, which of the actions will develop our Gastraphetes and Bolt Throwers more? Is it Support Artisans?

Yes.

maximillian said:
And @Academia Nut, the passive policy says 1/2, does that mean we can add another policy?

Corrected.

Reader of all said:
If we only have one maxed out say econ and that maxed out stat will over flow into wealth which will max out that stat will it trigger a golden age so long as we areat stab 3?

If you only have one by midturn, it will not trigger. If something overflows and maxes out other things, that will trigger it.

VoidZero · Jul 28, 2017

BungieONI said:
You know that I've got this suspicion that, since we have never really taken anti-intrigue actions besides Blackbirds, that someone probably Rulwyna II saw this weakness and set up a system hidden in a system that is meant to defend us. Using total obscurity even from the most high places to survive and defend itself and strike at enemies.

It's a weird thought though.

"God damn this place is a hot mess and full of holes. Might as well make it mine."

BungieONI · Jul 28, 2017

Early Tally.

Vote Tally : Original - Paths of Civilization | Page 3464 | Sufficient Velocity
##### NetTally 1.9.1
[1] Main More Boats
[1] Secondary Terrify-Trelli
[1] Secondary War Mission-sea people

——————————————————————————————————————————————Task: Main
[19][Main] Build Annex - Arsenal
[2][Main] More Blackbirds
[2][Main] War Mission - Khemetri
[1][Main] Support Artisans
[1][Main] Study Metal

——————————————————————————————————————————————Task: Secondary
[23][Secondary] Study Metal
[15][Secondary] Support Artisans
[5][Secondary] Build Annex - Arsenal
[4][Secondary] More Blackbirds
[2][Secondary] War Mission - Khemetri
[1][Secondary] Trails
[1][Secondary] Build Watchtowers
[1][Secondary] Study Metal x2
Total No. of Voters: 27

frostgiant · Jul 28, 2017

[X] [Main] Build Annex - Arsenal
[X] [Secondary] War Mission - Khemetri
[X] [Secondary] Study Metal

Manget · Jul 28, 2017

Reader of all said:
We are at a stalemate so what we need right now is a game changer rather than throwing more of our soldiers into the meat grinder.

Yeah and if we were trying to win with the meat grinder strategy main2 Raise Army Would be the way to go

Raichu1972 · Jul 28, 2017

BungieONI said:
Total speculation here but the concentration of the Royal Arsenal may boost counter-espionage security. I consider this unlikely however.

Depending on what group of people are part of the Spy Network the arsenal could make it easier to steal information, because all of our prototypes and artisans would be situated right next to the King's Library, where all the information behind the inventions are likely stored. If the spy network includes our elites, an influential blacksmith could learn how to make steel and spread it pretty easily.

Abby Normal · Jul 28, 2017

@Academia Nut at this point are we guaranteed to still have baby boom + population explosion for this turn, or is it possible for those to end from the war/disease without paying out again?

BungieONI · Jul 28, 2017

Raichu1972 said:
Depending on what group of people are part of the Spy Network the arsenal could make it easier to steal information, because all of our prototypes and artisans would be situated right next to the King's Library, where all the information behind the inventions are likely stored. If the spy network includes our elites, an influential blacksmith could learn how to make steel and spread it pretty easily.

Yeah, that's the flipside.

However, I see little point getting any variation of paranoid about it(not that you in particular are), since we really do need it.

maximillian · Jul 28, 2017

@Academia Nut, would a secondary be sufficient to build the Arsenal? As it should work with the law and the infrastructure policy.

Also, how useful/needed do the advisors think a war mission would be?

Concho117 · Jul 28, 2017

[X] [Main] Build Annex - Arsenal
[X] [Secondary] Study Metal
[X] [Secondary] Support Artisans

Whelp. Looks like Highland Kingdom is next on the chopping block. Followed by the Trelli.
Geez, at this rate we won't have any neighbors left...
But I suppose that was always the plan.

pblur · Jul 28, 2017

@Academia Nut Is Main Arsenal a valid vote? Since technically it only takes a secondary to add an arsenal annex, will this add two?

VoidZero · Jul 28, 2017

Reader of all said:
We are at a stalemate so what we need right now is a game changer rather than throwing more of our soldiers into the meat grinder.

Just put up more roads and lower the cost of leveraging our entire population. I'm thinking better roads will allow our sub-states to send us warriors less costly on their end.

BungieONI · Jul 28, 2017

maximillian said:
@Academia Nut, would a secondary be sufficient to build the Arsenal? As it should work with the law and the infrastructure policy.

Also, how useful/needed do the advisors think a war mission would be?

Naw my good sheepy we only need a single secondary to build it.

I want a x2 Arsenal for extra Arsenaling.

Thomasfoolery · Jul 28, 2017

Manget said:
Yeah if we were trying to win with the meat grinder strategy main2 Raise Army Would be the way to go

The conditions at the front are stalemated now, but that doesn't take into account all the war missions our provinces can send for us. The fighting so far has been the local troops and our mercenary forces only.

BungieONI · Jul 28, 2017

Thomasfoolery said:
The conditions at the front are stalemated now, but that doesn't take into account all the war missions our provinces can send for us. The fighting so far has been the local troops and our mercenary forces only.

Wow, hadn't quite realized that...

That's mildly impressive actually.

Concho117 · Jul 28, 2017

pblur said:
@Academia Nut Is Main Arsenal a valid vote? Since technically it only takes a secondary to add an arsenal annex, will this add two?

Yes. it adds 2.

pblur · Jul 28, 2017

BungieONI said:
Wow, hadn't quite realized that...

That's mildly impressive actually.

Of course, the same may be true for them...

Manget · Jul 28, 2017

BungieONI said:
Wow, hadn't quite realized that...

That's mildly impressive actually.

Not really they only have their midturm actions involved as well

maximillian · Jul 28, 2017

Also the black birds are good in the out and open. They're useless for espionage that occurs behind closed doors or cities in general, you need paid informants and an actual spy network for urban intelligence.

Thomasfoolery · Jul 28, 2017

BungieONI said:
Wow, hadn't quite realized that...

That's mildly impressive actually.

Well, I imagine the same is probably true for the opposition, the royal army probably hasn't been shipped over in force yet and we've been fighting the colonies army instead mainly so far. So things will probably escalate quite a bit on both sides.

Raichu1972 · Jul 28, 2017

I like to think of the Narrative behind Main Arsenal Seconadary Study Metal being the King, knowing that he is unable to help in terms of war and hating feeling useless, gathers up every Blacksmith in the Nation that's worth anything and putting them to work at finding something, anything, that can give us an advantage.

Candesce · Jul 28, 2017

[X] [Main] Build Annex - Arsenal
[X] [Secondary] Study Metal
[X] [Secondary] Support Artisans

Academia Nut · Jul 28, 2017

Abby Normal said:
@Academia Nut at this point are we guaranteed to still have baby boom + population explosion for this turn?

Guaranteed? No, you could suffer a catastrophic plague or volcanic eruption or something like that, which could end both. It's fairly unlikely that something knocks off both simultaneously, but population explosion has a decent chance to end this turn, but if it does it probably won't take baby boom with it.

maximillian said:
would a secondary be sufficient to build the Arsenal? As it should work with the law and the infrastructure policy.

A Sec would get you Arsenal x1.

maximillian said:
Also, how useful/needed do the advisors think a war mission would be?

Ehhh... a lot of the advisors think that the king's efforts might be best spent working out new magic for the People to use to their advantage rather than organizing more war efforts, where he pretty much has to delegate and doesn't really know who is a good person to delegate to, and the best guy to ask is at the front.

pblur said:
@Academia Nut Is Main Arsenal a valid vote? Since technically it only takes a secondary to add an arsenal annex, will this add two?

Yes, it will produce Arsenal x2

BungieONI · Jul 28, 2017

pblur said:
Of course, the same may be true for them...

It almost certainly is, which is mildly disturbing with the numbers mentioned. However I rate our current situation of stalemate to actually be a winning situation for us, since the best condition for the Khem would be that we folded.

If we stalemated long enough, we'd win as their system seems to require a quick win to support their idea of superiority in order to stay stable.

Though my preference is getting them off our lawn and straight up winning this spat.

Kiba · Jul 28, 2017

[X] [Main] Build Annex - Arsenal
[X] [Secondary] Study Metal
[X] [Secondary] Support Artisans

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