maximillian
Civilised Sheep
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- Ranch
@Academia Nut, are storm wolves not huns or not scythians?
Or are they expedited not magyars ?
Or are they expedited not magyars ?
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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Yes, it will prioritize projects that have already started.
They already have access, although only through trade at this point. They only have a few maintenance smiths rather than directly productive ones. No real mines though.
For like the past ten thousand years.
They're part of the general mish-mash of not!PIE groups.
maximillian
Civilised Sheep
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- Ranch
Hemp voters, what's the reasoning for hemp, if ye don't mind me asking?
pbluekan
Somethin's Fucky ...
- Location
- Trumpistan
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The redshore aqueduct should be of a high priority here. It has gone on too long, come up too many times, and we will have some serious problems if this isn't rectified. We don't need the boats, the innovation there will continue on it's own. We don't need a proclaim glory yet, we are at least two turns off a golden age from stats alone, and dropping our culture that much will take us even farther away.
[X] [Main] The Law (Iron Age)
[X] [Secondary] Found Mercenary Company
[X] [Secondary] More Boats
[X] [Free] Change Passive Policy - Innovation
[X] [Free] Found Colony - Change Greenshore Trading Post to a Colony
We have little need for any other passive policy besides infrastructure, forestry, or vassal support. Any of these four will work.
[X] [Main] The Law (Iron Age)
[X] [Secondary] Found Mercenary Company
[X] [Secondary] More Boats
[X] [Free] Change Passive Policy - Innovation
[X] [Free] Found Colony - Change Greenshore Trading Post to a Colony
We have little need for any other passive policy besides infrastructure, forestry, or vassal support. Any of these four will work.
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Hyacinthium
Writing about sad cannibals as we speak.
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[X][Free] Convert Greenshore to colony
[X] [Main] The Law (Iron Age)
[X] [Free] Change Passive Policy - Defence (+1 significant walls/turn)
We need Tech for the Law. Approval Voting the two options I like.
[X] [Secondary] Support Artisans
[X] [Secondary] Plant Hemp
[X] [Secondary] Plant Hemp x2
[X] [Red Banner] Metal Workers
[X] [Main] The Law (Iron Age)
[X] [Free] Change Passive Policy - Defence (+1 significant walls/turn)
We need Tech for the Law. Approval Voting the two options I like.
[X] [Secondary] Support Artisans
[X] [Secondary] Plant Hemp
[X] [Secondary] Plant Hemp x2
[X] [Red Banner] Metal Workers
pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
- Location
- Lawrence's Wagon
Sails and ropes and stuff. Plus it provides the +1 tech we need for Law.
Though I'm a Boat voter now, cause catamarans. And it also gives +1 Tech.
maximillian
Civilised Sheep
- Location
- Ranch
Oi, @BungieONI, infra policy will finish up aqueduct if chosen.
pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
- Location
- Lawrence's Wagon
All that matters is legibility and uniformity.
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
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- within 2 hours of the White House
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- They/Them
@Academia Nut how was king phygrif portrayed in the Play form of the Fall of Xohyr? Foolish? Clever? A meathead?
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[X][Free] Found Colony - Change Greenshore Trading Post to a Colony
[X][Free] Change Passive Policy - Defence (+1 significant walls/turn)
[X][Main] The Law (Iron Age)
[X][Secondary] Proclaim Glory
[X][Secondary] Plant Hemp
[X][Free] Change Passive Policy - Defence (+1 significant walls/turn)
[X][Main] The Law (Iron Age)
[X][Secondary] Proclaim Glory
[X][Secondary] Plant Hemp
maximillian
Civilised Sheep
- Location
- Ranch
Aye but that requires large scale cultivation for actual applications instead of novelty. Meaning that unless it a main or several secondaries, it's rather redundant. Narrativly at least.
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
- Location
- Australia
I would just like to take this moment to say, if Rahullinar is representative of his people, then they are going to looove the Games! We'll just have to make sure they use blunted weapons...I'm sure bruising and knocking the wind out of someone will be considered acceptable, just not actually dealing the finishing blow.
Plus, I'm glad we didn't try an undirected main bribe. He's clearly not a big fan of bribes, and if it hadn't been counteracted by being a personal honour and being just so big...yeah.
Anyway, to the vote!
[X][Free] Found Colony - Change Greenshore Trading Post to a Colony
[X][Free] Change Passive Policy - Defence (+1 significant walls/turn)
[X][Free] Change Passive Policy - Forestry (+1 Sustainable Forest and -1 Econ Expansion/2 turns)
[X][Main] The Law (Iron Age)
[X][Secondary] Proclaim Glory
[X][Secondary] Plant Hemp
[X][Secondary] Found Mercenary Company - main pay
We have heaps of passive income, so we can afford to convert Greenshore. It's more important now to get it expanding and connecting to Tinriver and whatever metal workers the nomads leave behind.
Defence and Forestry are both great passive policies in the long run - and for passive policies, IMO, only the long run really matters. My first preference would be Defence.
If the Law imposes choices that cost us Stability, we'll want PG. If it doesn't, then hooray, Golden Age! Maybe building the Dam during a Golden Age will make up, just a little bit, for delaying it so long?
(On a side note, I wonder why it's still 4-6 actions?)
I'd be happy to let the provinces use their extra secondary to get Tech for the project (assuming it actually requires 4 actions, not 3), but apparently hemp will save our second True City (which, remember, boosts innovation) as well as improving our boats. So might as well. It's not a big deal to pop it, though, so approval voting for mercenaries.
Plus, I'm glad we didn't try an undirected main bribe. He's clearly not a big fan of bribes, and if it hadn't been counteracted by being a personal honour and being just so big...yeah.
Anyway, to the vote!
[X][Free] Found Colony - Change Greenshore Trading Post to a Colony
[X][Free] Change Passive Policy - Defence (+1 significant walls/turn)
[X][Free] Change Passive Policy - Forestry (+1 Sustainable Forest and -1 Econ Expansion/2 turns)
[X][Main] The Law (Iron Age)
[X][Secondary] Proclaim Glory
[X][Secondary] Plant Hemp
[X][Secondary] Found Mercenary Company - main pay
We have heaps of passive income, so we can afford to convert Greenshore. It's more important now to get it expanding and connecting to Tinriver and whatever metal workers the nomads leave behind.
Defence and Forestry are both great passive policies in the long run - and for passive policies, IMO, only the long run really matters. My first preference would be Defence.
If the Law imposes choices that cost us Stability, we'll want PG. If it doesn't, then hooray, Golden Age! Maybe building the Dam during a Golden Age will make up, just a little bit, for delaying it so long?
(On a side note, I wonder why it's still 4-6 actions?)
I'd be happy to let the provinces use their extra secondary to get Tech for the project (assuming it actually requires 4 actions, not 3), but apparently hemp will save our second True City (which, remember, boosts innovation) as well as improving our boats. So might as well. It's not a big deal to pop it, though, so approval voting for mercenaries.
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pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
- Location
- Lawrence's Wagon
Undoubtedly glorious. It's a great triumph of our people.
WE'RE not going to record it as a travesty...
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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- Lickwidget
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- She/Her
Are you speaking of if I vote for aqueducts and infrastructure in the same vote?
pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
- Location
- Lawrence's Wagon
It's giving us 2 stats based on that impact. Our ships don't require the miles of rigging of the age of sail.
Hyacinthium
Writing about sad cannibals as we speak.
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It makes amazing things. I think I once posted a big post with links on this, but hemp is humanity's best botanical friend that there is. The sheer amount of usages that hemp has is unbelievable.
And that's not even counting recreational drug use. The only reason hemp gets such a bad rep is due to reputation sabotage by competing industries way back when.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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- Lickwidget
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- She/Her
Because Dam-kun is frantically improving himself so that he can wow us when we finally take him in a glorious hot and steamy night of passion?
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
- Location
- within 2 hours of the White House
- Pronouns
- They/Them
In B4 some Ymaryn lumberjack starts a play called "Ryffyr Madnyss"
maximillian
Civilised Sheep
- Location
- Ranch
Yup
But we have many boats. And even though they are no ships of the line. Our need for Nets, rope and cloth still require mass cultivation.
Wait, @Academia Nut, do we have fishing nets?
If we go for the golden age, which stats are we going to try to max?
Diplo is at 11[+2], so if we Plant Hemp and don't use other diplo-affecting actions, we should be at 15 by mid-turn. That means we can hit peak next turn if we don't use up the Diplo.
Econ is at 15, and grows 5 per turn. Hopefully, we can keep it on peak, but if we start the Great Dam, that will outpace our Econ production. Problematic.
Wealth is at 8 and grows at 5 per turn, but we spend it on many of our actions, so unless we generate some wealth (or econ, to overflow into wealth) I expect to be below 17 wealth until something like 2 turns from now at the earliest.
Martial is at 10{15}. Unless we are absorbing the Stallions now-ish, I don't see how we would be raising that, and frankly being at 17{22} Martial strikes me as... a poor idea.
Culture is at 6, and it isn't hitting peak anytime soon.
Mysticism is at 11, and gaining 1 per turn. If we plant Hemp, that would put it at 13 by midturn. Since we don't actually spend Mysticism when we spend Mysticism, it is relatively easy to keep Myst high, but if we leave it along getting it to max will take a while. Maybe take a Study Stars action next turn? That would put us at cap in a turn and a half.
Tech is at 7, and it isn't hitting peak anytime soon.
Diplo is at 11[+2], so if we Plant Hemp and don't use other diplo-affecting actions, we should be at 15 by mid-turn. That means we can hit peak next turn if we don't use up the Diplo.
Econ is at 15, and grows 5 per turn. Hopefully, we can keep it on peak, but if we start the Great Dam, that will outpace our Econ production. Problematic.
Wealth is at 8 and grows at 5 per turn, but we spend it on many of our actions, so unless we generate some wealth (or econ, to overflow into wealth) I expect to be below 17 wealth until something like 2 turns from now at the earliest.
Martial is at 10{15}. Unless we are absorbing the Stallions now-ish, I don't see how we would be raising that, and frankly being at 17{22} Martial strikes me as... a poor idea.
Culture is at 6, and it isn't hitting peak anytime soon.
Mysticism is at 11, and gaining 1 per turn. If we plant Hemp, that would put it at 13 by midturn. Since we don't actually spend Mysticism when we spend Mysticism, it is relatively easy to keep Myst high, but if we leave it along getting it to max will take a while. Maybe take a Study Stars action next turn? That would put us at cap in a turn and a half.
Tech is at 7, and it isn't hitting peak anytime soon.
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The Fall of Xohyr is a grand tragedy. Phygrif is portrayed of as something of a nasty son of a bitch, but admirable in his determination to see a threat removed. Phygrif is something of a background element however, as the majority of the attention is upon a series of grand heroes (their identities haven't really stabilized yet, they are semi- to entirely-fictional in any case) in the shadow of the walls. The play/poem itself is ahistorical in that the majority of the time is spent in the shadow of the skull wall and is something of an exploration of the horrors of war and the nature of virtue and honour. The ending, with the destruction of the city, is left morally ambiguous, as while the deaths of the Xohyr nobility and priesthood is seen of as being necessary, the destruction of the city takes a major toll on the heroes, and can be regarded of as "The wrong choice for all the right reasons".