Paths of Civilization

kelgar04 · Jul 10, 2017

[X] [Alchemy] Full support (Main Study Alchemy, Stallions very pleased)
[X] [WC] Send many experts to work at the problem (-3 Art, -2 Centralization, +2 Wealth, +2 Wealth next turn)
[X] [React] Main New Trails

Sivantic · Jul 10, 2017

Academia Nut said:
Unlikely.

Well alright then

[X] [Alchemy] Full support (Main Study Alchemy, Stallions very pleased)
[X] [WC] Send many experts to work at the problem (-3 Art, -2 Centralization, +2 Wealth, +2 Wealth next turn)
[X] [React] Main New Trails

Umi-san said:
Centralization 6 is red. We get 2 yellows.

Yes we have two yellows, but our cap has also shifted.

Currently we do not know if we have 3-4-5 or 4-5-6

PrimalShadow · Jul 10, 2017

pblur said:
As it is, we're dominant in 5 things right now. Centre of trade would be absurd for us right now.

Pretty dangerous though, what with us losing stability and wanting to go to war when we lose our dominance in anything.

BungieONI · Jul 10, 2017

Raichu1972 said:
It's rather strange to see a vote that has almost everyone agreeing.

I haven't seen this since the Great Rage Against the Steppes.

Nah this is slightly lesser. There is actual dissenting views!

I felt like that was more like 10 pages of the Thread continuously expelling burning hydrazine it had been storing up.

Rozencrantz · Jul 10, 2017

[X] [Alchemy] Full support (Main Study Alchemy, Stallions very pleased)
[X] [WC] Send many experts to work at the problem (-3 Art, -2 Centralization, +2 Wealth, +2 Wealth next turn)
[X] [React] Main New Trails

guyfromtheplace1 · Jul 10, 2017

PrimalShadow said:
So. We are currently at Stability zero. And taking 1/2 a stability hit per turn from CA.

What are people thinking in terms of solutions to this?

ah, right. hmmmm.

Citino · Jul 10, 2017

Citino said:
They require people to trade with them as a sort of 'tax', I believe.

From what I understand, we usually don't trade with the Khemetri directly, we instead sell our stuff to the Trelli, who then sell it to whoever wants to buy it at a higher price. Then we buy what we want from the Trelli marketplace, at a markup from what the Trelli bought it.

Straits be OP, yo.

Should be noted that one interlude thus shows how much wealth we are getting from our trade dominance. We literally can't find enough stuff to buy due to how much stuff we offload on the Trelli, to the point where we were literally buying all the tin not because we particularly wanted it, but because others were willing to trade GLORIOUS SILVER for the stuff.

Quest · Jul 10, 2017

[X] [Alchemy] Full support (Main Study Alchemy, Stallions very pleased)
[X] [WC] Send many experts to work at the problem (-3 Art, -2 Centralization, +2 Wealth, +2 Wealth next turn)
[X] [React] Main New Trails

BungieONI · Jul 10, 2017

Citino said:
Should be noted that one interlude thus shows how much wealth we are getting from our trade dominance. We literally can't find enough stuff to buy due to how much stuff we offload on the Trelli, to the point where we were literally buying tin not because we particularly wanted it, but because others were willing to trade GLORIOUS SILVER for the stuff.

And this situation has now become even more ridiculous since we have gained wine dominance and gem significance since then if I remember correctly.

They must be really hard up on stuff after we pass through.

Kiba · Jul 10, 2017

[X] [Alchemy] Full support (Main Study Alchemy, Stallions very pleased)
[X] [WC] Send many experts to work at the problem (-3 Art, -2 Centralization, +2 Wealth, +2 Wealth next turn)
[X] [React] Main New Trails

Sivantic · Jul 10, 2017

@Academia Nut out of curiosity, where are these new trails being placed?

Citino · Jul 10, 2017

Citino said:
Should be noted that one interlude thus shows how much wealth we are getting from our trade dominance. We literally can't find enough stuff to buy due to how much stuff we offload on the Trelli, to the point where we were literally buying all the tin not because we particularly wanted it, but because others were willing to trade GLORIOUS SILVER for the stuff.

Oh, and last point I'll add on to this, we pretty much just riped off the Khemtri with that tin deal. We actually were soon unable to even supply others with tin even if we had wanted to due to the weather, so we would have stopped buying so much of the stuff pretty soon anyways.

rofl::lol

Malevolo · Jul 10, 2017

@Academia Nut with our forestry techniques and charcoal production do we have Pitch (resin) - Wikipedia and Tar - Wikipedia, because this would help with our ships and our other wooden constructions.

Concho117 · Jul 10, 2017

[X] [Alchemy] Full support (Main Study Alchemy, Stallions very pleased)
[X] [WC] Send many experts to work at the problem (-3 Art, -2 Centralization, +2 Wealth, +2 Wealth next turn)
[X] [React] Main New Trails

Glassware · Jul 10, 2017

@Academia Nut, when the Stallions are integrated do we gain religious authority? Have the benefits of their natural wonder been deferred until that happens?

Umi-san · Jul 10, 2017

Malevolo said:
Drainage System and a Sewer System...

for roads? no

Sivantic said:
Yes we have two yellows, but our cap has also shifted.

We were at 4, it changed to yellow, AN said we get a 2 yellow warning when people asked why. I.e., it's 6.

ThrawnCA · Jul 10, 2017

I like this bandwagon

[X] [Alchemy] Full support (Main Study Alchemy, Stallions very pleased)
[X] [WC] Send many experts to work at the problem (-3 Art, -2 Centralization, +2 Wealth, +2 Wealth next turn)
[X] [React] Main New Trails

Note that Econ may get a bit tight. But think of the trail innovation possibilities! And the improvement to our trade once the disruption ends and we have nice new roads connecting everything! And our greater military mobility! And food distribution efficiency!

Plus, maybe Western Wall will donate another province. If not - eh, we're at least that much closer to coming and taking it by ~~force~~ direct action.

Also note that yay we're tanking the crisis Wealth drain

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Cerillian · Jul 10, 2017

Raichu1972 said:
So, right now I'm thinking

[] [Alchemy] Full support (Main Study Alchemy, Stallions very pleased)
[] [WC] Send many experts to work at the problem (-3 Art, -2 Centralization, +2 Wealth, +2 Wealth next turn)
[] [React] Main New Trails

It would make everyone happy, increase connectivity, and lower centralization from it's stress point while not lowering it too much at once. The increased connectivity will also help reduce travel times across the nation.

Also, Heaven's Hawk has come up with Javelin Skirmishers, who are good at harassing and penetrating the armor of slower, heavier units.

While I like the action set, unfortunately centralization doesn't have a non-stress point. AN has stated that our spread is now so tight, we don't have any values that are neither yellow or red.

Fortunately, this set keeps centralization from moving much, so that is a lesser concern, but it is still sadly stressful.

[X] [Alchemy] Full support (Main Study Alchemy, Stallions very pleased)
[X] [WC] Send many experts to work at the problem (-3 Art, -2 Centralization, +2 Wealth, +2 Wealth next turn)
[X] [React] Main New Trails

Malevolo · Jul 10, 2017

Umi-san said:
for roads? no

So where would all the rain who would fall on the road go? Because i'm fairly sure that letting the water stay on a paved road would cause long-term damage, so it would be necessary a system to drain the water, ie, drainage system.

The Sewer would be a extrapolation of the drainage system.

pbluekan · Jul 10, 2017

[X] [Alchemy] Full support (Main Study Alchemy, Stallions very pleased)
[X] [WC] Send many experts to work at the problem (-3 Art, -2 Centralization, +2 Wealth, +2 Wealth next turn)
[X] [React] Main New Trails

ThrawnCA · Jul 10, 2017

Malevolo said:
So where would all the rain who would fall on the road go? Because i'm fairly sure that letting the water stay on a paved road would cause long-term damage, so it would be necessary a system to drain the water, ie, drainage system.

I think you can just build it with something other than a perfectly flat and level surface, and bingo, water drains off.

pblur · Jul 10, 2017

Umi-san said:
were at 4, it changed to yellow, AN said we get a 2 yellow warning when people asked why. I.e., it's 6.

He actually said we might have a 2 yellow warning. He also said the cap might have changed. We really don't know; he was pretty cagey.

Citino · Jul 10, 2017

pbluekan said:
[X] [Alchemy] Full support (Main Study Alchemy, Stallions very pleased)
[X] [WC] Send many experts to work at the problem (-3 Art, -2 Centralization, +2 Wealth, +2 Wealth next turn)
[X] [React] Integrate Vassal - Stallion Tribes

So, I'm not usually one to go full bore on anything, but I feel we have an opportunity here in that pleasing the Tribes while integrating them should go over smoothly and ease the transition. We don't really have another chance for this unless we wish to do it after we build the palace. The majority of the stallions martial can be pushed into a new March or Mercenary company.

It's integrate vassals, not march. Can't integrate the ST, only Lowlands.

Killer_Whale · Jul 10, 2017

Malevolo said:
Drainage System and a Sewer System...

The aqueducts mega project (The Garden) gave us these already.

PrimalShadow · Jul 10, 2017

pbluekan said:
[X] [React] Integrate Vassal - Stallion Tribes

Our only vassal is PTSD-chan. The Stallion Tribes are a periphery state.

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