For a short wonderful moment I misread that as Expand Economy and Study Forest now being merged. Now that would have been truly bullshit.
I really want a connection between Crow and the bones to form so we can have feathered Dinosaurs/Dragons.
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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- Original
For a short wonderful moment I misread that as Expand Economy and Study Forest now being merged. Now that would have been truly bullshit.
I really want a connection between Crow and the bones to form so we can have feathered Dinosaurs/Dragons.
It makes me wonder. We know that Not!Egypt were heavily importing tin so that they could produce the bronze needed to complete their wonder, which means that the TH and HK are forced to rely on the sources of tin located within their borders as there simply isn't enough in the open market to go around.... then add the fact that those mines are worked by slaves who die quickly and need to be replaced quite often, but due to the current environment slave raiding has become difficult which means that both the HK and TH likely have dwindling slave populations...
So like I said, it makes me wonder just how long can they continue to produce bronze? Especially when the demand is ridiculously high because they fear their iron wielding neighbors. In fact I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the faster we crush the HK forces the more warriors we'll see wielding ceramic and stone weapons instead of bronze, as their smiths and mines lag behind the demand.
That is a really cool name for our iron clad spearmen.
I find it funny that even Phygrif, the ork in all but name, appreciates the quality construction of Vallyhome.
And this is awesome. I would love for us to build a temple here and possibly even make it into the precursor of a natural history museum.
[X] [Main] New Trails
[X] [Main] New Trails x2
[X] [Secondary] Expand Forests
[X] [Policy] Offensive
[X] [Wonder] Library
-[X] [Wonder] Valleyhome
[X] [RB] Rest, restores strength
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It's actually kind of amazing. I don't think any settled civilization could have done what we did.
We basically took Attila the Hun's chariot riding predecessor, peacefully made him our king, armed him with iron and (primitive) combined arms tactics and aimed him like a dagger in the vitals at our main rival killing them
We basically took Attila the Hun's chariot riding predecessor, peacefully made him our king, armed him with iron and (primitive) combined arms tactics and aimed him like a dagger in the vitals at our main rival killing them
- Location
- Voidbetweenstars
we cant afford to take more land be it directly or second-hand.
- Pronouns
- They/Them
The good news is I'm pretty sure Phygrif is going to die in Xohyr. He's really old and I doubt he can travel well at this point. They might just build a big stone pile in the center of the burned out ruin and carve "Phygrif was here" for a grave marker, I bet he'd love that.
VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
- Location
- Anywhere but RL
Yes, it was a gamble that shouldn't be risked. Also that core Xoh shouldn't be destroyed this way. Now that we might be looking at total chaos in lowland with Swamp/TS/TH moving in.
- Pronouns
- They/Them
I'm fine with that. Logistically speaking we've seen that no other civilization is capable of holding the lowlands. The Xoh were a problem because they were based there and therefore could potentially administer the entire thing from their capital if everyone stopped trying to kill them for being repulsive.
Chaos in the lowlands is to our advantage, the more chaotic the better. We basically destroyed the sole power that had the administrative reach to unite Lowlands. If the (other) periphery powers want to squabble over the carcass all the better.
- Location
- BaWü
[X] [Main] New Trails
[X] [Main] New Trails x2
[X] [Secondary] Expand Forests
[X] [Policy] Offensive
[X] [Wonder] Library
-[X] [Wonder] Valleyhome
@Academia Nut the Xohyssiri seem to still be dominant in Pottery and the Legacy is also missing.
[X] [Main] New Trails x2
[X] [Secondary] Expand Forests
[X] [Policy] Offensive
[X] [Wonder] Library
-[X] [Wonder] Valleyhome
@Academia Nut the Xohyssiri seem to still be dominant in Pottery and the Legacy is also missing.
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- Location
- Canada
[X] [RB] West, through the hills
This lets our Red Banner hit the hardest territories of the HK and lets them work their magic.
[X] [Main] New Trails
[X] [Main] New Trails x2
[X] [Secondary] Distribute Land
If our cent was lower I would've put a secondary new trails as well.
[X] [Policy] Offensive
Don't have a choice here since we need the trails.
[X] [Wonder] Library
-[X] [Wonder] Valleyhome
Admin tech up is vital for us to be able to start integrating more of our vassals since they hold most of our land.
This lets our Red Banner hit the hardest territories of the HK and lets them work their magic.
[X] [Main] New Trails
[X] [Main] New Trails x2
[X] [Secondary] Distribute Land
If our cent was lower I would've put a secondary new trails as well.
[X] [Policy] Offensive
Don't have a choice here since we need the trails.
[X] [Wonder] Library
-[X] [Wonder] Valleyhome
Admin tech up is vital for us to be able to start integrating more of our vassals since they hold most of our land.
- Location
- Mists of Albion
It's going to take multiple centuries for a viable candidate who can logistically unite the Lowlands to come forwards, overall after we kick the shit out of the Highlanders we should be able to turtle up and clean house for a long while
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Corrected, they are now gone.
If you want, but right now if you are not specifying you will strengthen the main arterial trails above all, increasing contact for all the outlying sections. Focusing entirely on the north may in fact increase drift with the south, and the far more able to go independent Hatriver and Hatvalley.
Hmmmm... no, they cannot do that.
No, he will pass on shortly and will not affect the upcoming war.
The quarry and natural wonder have been uncovered. In order to do work there you will have to integrate the Stallions first.
"If the environment is screwing with you, either grit your teeth and bear it out, or go talk to them."
Also, technically if you're not in at least tertiary contact with a group the wonder pulse won't affect you. So just because Not!Egypt has made everyone go "Well we're just going to be sad imitators" when they think about pyramids doesn't mean the Not!Maya or Not!China will know that they can't compete anymore.
TheDanishLord
Viking Warlord
- Location
- Denmark
[X] [Wonder] Warrior's Rest temple
lots of warrior die in the war lets give them a propper rest
[X] [Main] War Mission: Highlander
[X] [Secondary] Library Warrior's Rest
[X] [Secondary] Enforce Justice
lots of warrior die in the war lets give them a propper rest
[X] [Main] War Mission: Highlander
[X] [Secondary] Library Warrior's Rest
[X] [Secondary] Enforce Justice
I mean that it is by no means a sure thing that this will actually strengthen our trait. The fact that it makes progress is not equivalent to us getting any actual effect out of it at this juncture.
Yes, but it is completely unknown how progress we get per refugee. Do we upgrade the stat from getting lots of refugees once? Twice? Ten times?
At some point is stops being a good idea.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Hah, as if Crow makes mistakes. No, if Crow created some giant world-devouring monsters, it wouldn't be by accident but because there's something he wanted us to learn from them. Or perhaps the Devourer just had a bad day and decided to take it out on the universe, could also happen.
Still, I am not too sure that they're Crow's work. Like, you know how the Dragon-bones were found down in the south? What else do we have down there? The cursed lowlands that refused to grow. While it's true that our so-called "first king" might be generally believed to be the origin of that curse, is it not also fully possible that it could also be caused by the presence of dragons? And then there's the Xohissiri. We all know that their "gods" were actually demons demanding tribute, but did they not show a surprising amount of restraint and forethought for what amounts to monsters that should not be? I think that, if they were not dragons themselves, the demons of Xohir were at the very least related to them.
I think, based on all my non-existant theological knowledge, that the dragons are a sub-species of demons, more powerful and intelligent than the regular ones (as proven by the phyical remains they can leave behind). While of course nowhere near Crow's level, they exist somewhere inbetween a regular demon and a theoretical second Demon-God, which would also make some sense given the physical similarities of the Thunder Bird and Crow.
Hopefully they're all gone now, because I do not look forward to staying on this world of enough dragons showed up to fill an entire graveyard...
- Location
- The People's Saltern
So some old questions in case you missed them when doing the update and some new ones.
@Academia Nut
What does "lose the capacity to react" mean? Do we lose certain midturn options (Wildcat (not that we'll take it), midturn Main, etc.) or does it skip the midturn entirely? Does it affect any extra choices in the main turn?
This is a different situation than the last time this question was asked. We finished the Sacred Forest Renewal Megaproject, we don't have a Heroic Admin Leader to deal with centralization issues and we're facing a possible civilization collapse. Would the provinces be willing to risk [Sec] Enforce Justice (+1-3 Centralization) if there is a chance of government paralysis from hitting red centralization?
How badly did sacking Xohyr damage our values? Cosmopolitan Acceptance seemed like it was hurt pretty badly here. We burned "fellow humans" alive and took people as "refugees" (war loot).
Would "[Main] New Trails - Between North and South" be better for connecting the northern and southern provinces?
@Academia Nut
What does "lose the capacity to react" mean? Do we lose certain midturn options (Wildcat (not that we'll take it), midturn Main, etc.) or does it skip the midturn entirely? Does it affect any extra choices in the main turn?
This is a different situation than the last time this question was asked. We finished the Sacred Forest Renewal Megaproject, we don't have a Heroic Admin Leader to deal with centralization issues and we're facing a possible civilization collapse. Would the provinces be willing to risk [Sec] Enforce Justice (+1-3 Centralization) if there is a chance of government paralysis from hitting red centralization?
How badly did sacking Xohyr damage our values? Cosmopolitan Acceptance seemed like it was hurt pretty badly here. We burned "fellow humans" alive and took people as "refugees" (war loot).
Would "[Main] New Trails - Between North and South" be better for connecting the northern and southern provinces?
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Between this and the canal the Stallions are looking really tasty, hopefully integrating them can be done in the next few turns.
eternal-potato
He who vegetates
- Location
- Moscow
[X] [Wonder] Library
-[X] [Wonder] Valleyhome
[X] [RB] Rest, restores strength
[X] [Main] War Mission - Highlanders
[X] [Secondary] Build Mills
[X] [Secondary] Study Metal
-[X] [Wonder] Valleyhome
[X] [RB] Rest, restores strength
[X] [Main] War Mission - Highlanders
[X] [Secondary] Build Mills
[X] [Secondary] Study Metal
[X] [Main] New Trails
[X] [Main] New Trails x2
[X] [Secondary] Expand Forests
[X] [Policy] Offensive
[X] [Wonder] Temple
-[X] [Wonder] Horse Valley
I do have a reason for this one. The North is already jealous of our infrastructure. We know that. So what does it say if we take the greatest victory of their king and commemorate it in the South? More, this is an opportunity to spread culture and learning to the North, which will be important if we do splinter. If the North splinters off and has no centers of culture and learning, they'll become really well armed nomads. If we leave them with some legacies of prosperity though, we could end up with a stable, if somewhat hostile, power to our north.
[X] [Main] New Trails x2
[X] [Secondary] Expand Forests
[X] [Policy] Offensive
[X] [Wonder] Temple
-[X] [Wonder] Horse Valley
I do have a reason for this one. The North is already jealous of our infrastructure. We know that. So what does it say if we take the greatest victory of their king and commemorate it in the South? More, this is an opportunity to spread culture and learning to the North, which will be important if we do splinter. If the North splinters off and has no centers of culture and learning, they'll become really well armed nomads. If we leave them with some legacies of prosperity though, we could end up with a stable, if somewhat hostile, power to our north.
I'm concerned we're too low on economy to afford to do it again next turn. (7-2 roads, 2 cities puts us at 3 next turn)
Also, if we're lucky, we can evolve the build roads action with this double main, so centralization room isn't needed. Still, I can appreciate not counting on that.
Can you convince me otherwise?
They're probably seeind a lot of turnover, though. Mercenary life tends to be a young person's game only. Being out in the field means more that they're getting fewer recruits than they lose, rather.
I'm thinking we build the library, and try to increase literacy and scholarship near out capital for now. Its too soon to start giving the north ammo, I fear. Give the trails a generation to work first.
[X] [Main] New Trails
[X] [Main] New Trails x2
[x] [Secondary] Build Mills
[X] [Policy] Offensive
[X] [Wonder] Library
-[X] [Wonder] Valleyhome
[X] [RB] East, go through the lowlands into the hills
Ghostdevil
The Devil of Ghosts
- Location
- United States
[X] [Main] New Trails - North
[X] [Main] New Trails - North x2
[X] [Secondary] Expand Forest
[X] [Policy] Offensive
[X] [Wonder] Library
-[X] [Wonder] Valleyhome
[X] [Main] New Trails - North x2
[X] [Secondary] Expand Forest
[X] [Policy] Offensive
[X] [Wonder] Library
-[X] [Wonder] Valleyhome
- Location
- Mists of Albion
Bloody inspired
Crazy7s1
Excellent
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[X] [Main] New Trails
[X] [Main] New Trails
[X] [Secondary] Expand Forests
[X] [Policy] Offensive
[X] [Wonder] Library
-[X] [Wonder] Valleyhome