- Location
- Voidbetweenstars
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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- Original
The whole point of sending a secondary war mission is to reinforce tie with our subordinate, not to win war. But crushing them as soon as possible is great too.
So, when we are at max stability, the Restoration Policy acts identically to the Balanced Policy minus the law adding a free secondary expand economy.
If we maintain 3 stability through the midturn, we get a free policy switch.
Therefore, voting for a switch to balanced policy this turn is voting for a secondary expand economy.
If we maintain 3 stability through the midturn, we get a free policy switch.
Therefore, voting for a switch to balanced policy this turn is voting for a secondary expand economy.
- Location
- Australia
I understand the logic of reinforcing ties, I was just arguing against the specific reasoning that a Secondary War Mission would be the difference between a long campaign that lasts multiple turns and a quick win for us.
- Location
- Somewhere over the rainbow
Everywhere else apparently has bad enough backstabbing to unlock an Intrigue stat, we've surmised. Symphony also tends to cut down on that.
We have ninja and/? assassins.
Though to be fair, this is probably the least substantiated part of my post.
Western Wall first because that's what governs our ability to project cultural authority to Greenshore(which isn't making noises YET, but given their distance, it's inevitable)
Meanwhile the Stallions are still providing an essential service(see this very turn), so I'd integrate them around when the Heaven's Hawks decide they want to become legally Ymaryn as a March.
Because of the lack of roads.
Redshore is the longest distance cultural projection due to coast and docks making it so ideas move rapidly by water along with our traders. It's more likely to see a pilgrimage to Redshore than to Stonepen. This, coupled with a link at Star Mirror to project cultural influence upriver to the Stallions and down the coast to the Western Wall, should cover culture issues for a time without encouraging schisms.
The Stallions already told us they got this. I see no reason to dispute their assessment considering they have a Symphony backed triple main war mission to the face already
Guile
Having a really great time right now
There are other things to find than mines, presumably, despite the name.
As different as a King is from a Big Big (Big) Man.
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VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
- Location
- Anywhere but RL
[X][Main]Sacred Forest Renewal
[X][Secondary] Change Policy-Balanced
[X][Secondary]War Mission-Northern Nomads
[X] Red Banner Company - Northern Nomads
[X] [Divine] Stay silent (+1 Religious Authority)
Let the faith issues play itself out, we will step in when people are breaking the law; not before.
[X][Secondary] Change Policy-Balanced
[X][Secondary]War Mission-Northern Nomads
[X] Red Banner Company - Northern Nomads
[X] [Divine] Stay silent (+1 Religious Authority)
Let the faith issues play itself out, we will step in when people are breaking the law; not before.
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- Location
- Reno Nv
Hmm is it possible to stay silent dev the god king statis, then if possible scale it back?
- Location
- Australia
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
- Location
- Australia
Bear in mind that the Stallions didn't absolutely have to join in this fight at all. It's the Heaven's Hawk who are under attack.
The fact that the Stallions are going to war means that they're confident they can win, or they wouldn't bother.
Adding the Red Banner to the mix will put in the boot in.
Going to war ourselves would be good for political reasons, but it's very much not militarily necessary.
ETA Actually, if anything, I would be curious about sending a trade mission to the nomads. Maybe we could resolve this peacefully, if the traders have 3 armies at their back.
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- Location
- Voidbetweenstars
The stallions are the ones who are gaining the idea that they don't need to be under us much longer, which considering it all means that narratively they will likely rebel and if their smart they will have the backing of the Heaven's Hawks if only because they can.
A. pay them
B. call in the fact that they have been fighting together against the other nomads.
- Location
- Canada
Sometimes political reasons are reason enough. Also why is everyone wasting a secondary on a policy switch when AN already our current policy will act as balanced and we get a free switch on the next mid turn. Plus the WW can wait a bit longer so we can integrate the Stallions first.
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
[X][Main] Megaproject-Sacred Forest Renewal
[X][Secondary] Change Policy-Balanced
[X][Secondary]War Mission-Northern Nomads
[X] Red Banner Company - Northern Nomads
[X][Divine] Speak against it (-1 Religious Authority, potential trouble for heir)
Let's make sure that we keep the firm loyalty of our periphery states.
- Location
- Voidbetweenstars
we will only get free change if our stab is max by midturn which isn't 100% considering the situation.
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
- Location
- Australia
This...is a good point. @veekie Might we be better off spending the action on a secondary War? Appeasing the ST will make future integration easier, I expect, and Lord's Loyalty is a good value to evolve.
If it's not, then all the more reason to boost it there. Golden Age FTW!
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- Location
- Canada
Then they'll take annual festivals and expand econ since they won't go over centralization anymore.
pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
- Location
- Lawrence's Wagon
That just means we're good at it. Best of the best, you know. Even if we don't have to stab people that often, our assassins will be LEGENDARY!
We have ninja and/? assassins.
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
- Location
- Australia
Where is the citation on that? I don't see it mentioned on the action list.
- Location
- Australia
@veekie, after some thought, it might be better to not switch policy. Restoration will act as Balanced due to the lack of a stability drop so we wouldn't be missing out (and if it did drop it would just do a single Festival, with a Main and Secondary left over (the Festival would even give us Art, which we need to complete the megaproject)), so switching policy may be redundant. If we swap it out with a Secondary War Mission we can get the x2 Megaproject, the Secondary War Mission, and a de facto Balanced policy. It's an ideal plan.
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ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
- Location
- Australia
I could get behind that.
ETA Even if it does mean missing out on an extra secondary Expand Econ, that's probably less important right now than the secondary War Mission would be.
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- Location
- United States
Thanks for the reminder
[X] [Main] Megaproject-Sacred Forest Renewal
[X] [Main] Megaproject-Sacred Forest Renewal x2
[X] [Secondary]War Mission-Northern Nomads
[X] Red Banner Company - Northern Nomads
[X][Divine] Speak against it (-1 Religious Authority, potential trouble for heir)
Updating vote.