How would historians view Ymaryn statesmanship to date given how successful we are?

Depends on the historians, and how things evolve. Like, if they were to all disappear next turn then they would probably become like the Indus: an interesting and surprisingly sophisticated civilization that ultimately had little impact on the greater history of the world. If its industrial age historians from the same tradition then they would have a very different opinion. The overall opinion is likely to be somewhere in between. In all likelihood, all prior struggles and accomplishments up to this point will be lumped into one or two categories like "Pre-Dynastic" or "Old Kingdom" and all the real fun stuff (in the opinion of historians) starts when they become a local hegemon and do exciting things like go out and conquer new territory and get into catastrophic civil wars that epics are written about.

@Academia Nut what does the King feel the difference between the messages sent to the north by sending just a war mission, just the Red Banner, or both to help them out is?

Just a war mission: the king supports subjects. Just Red Banner: the king can afford to send help. Both: the king has his subject's back as much as possible given the circumstances.
 
[X][Main] Sacred Forest Renewal
[X][Secondary] Change Policy-Balanced
[X][Secondary]War Mission-Northern Nomads
[X] Red Banner Company - Northern Nomads
[X] [Divine] Stay silent (+1 Religious Authority)
 
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[X][Main]War Mission - Northern Nomads
[X][Secondary]Change Policy-Megaproject Support
[X][Secondary]New Settlement - Far Eastern Redhills
[X] Red Banner Company - Northern Nomads
[X] [Divine] Speak against it (-1 Religious Authority, potential trouble for heir)
 
Still, I'm ok with this vote. Just... More actions is so OP, and we basically never choose to take them.

The number of "free" actions is indeed half the number of provinces (currently)

Yes. Rather than more province actions, the Two Sec + One Main or One Sec and One Double Main has returned.

We did get an additional province, but it didn't give us another province action. We just got the double main back. And it seems like we're probably not going to get more free actions.

As our administrative range increases will we reshuffle our provinces again into fewer larger ones thus losing some of their actions?
Yes, I am planning to do that soon-ish.

Will there be other, non-action bonuses to make up for it, so you can avoid action bloat but also not have expansion be self-defeating?
...and if so, how many of those bonuses do the Highland Kingdom with their giant blob of provinces have? D=
You'll see.

In fact, we might actually lose some in the reshuffle, but we might get something in return.
 
[X][Main] Sacred Forest Renewal
[X][Main] Sacred Forest Renewal x2
[X][Secondary] War Mission - Northern Nomads
[X][Divine] Speak against it (-1 Religious Authority, potential trouble for heir)
[X] Red Banner Company - Northern Nomads
 
@veekie, after the crisis is dealt with, what is your plan regarding increasing our investments in our northern territories?

0) Build those goddamned roads so we stop culture drifting so hard. We can shove this in any time in the middle, just distribute some land first
0) Grab those extra provinces for manpower advantages
0) Integrate a chunk of Western Wall when Diplomacy allows
1) Palace + Census first to assert control
2) Temple and Library in Holy Sea to provide culture bridge
3) Temple and Library in Star Mirror to link up with Holy Sea and provide religious authority over the coast and along the river
4) Aqueduct in Stonepen to move the Northern cultural center towards the closer Stonepen than the more remote Stallion Tribes


How would you feel about swapping over to megaproject support next turn in an attempt to finish the whole project? In that case, we could potentially go straight into the palace/census...
If resources allow, definitely.
If.

That's why Balanced. The random hits to stats really make taking risks on megaproject suck
Just a war mission: the king supports subjects. Just Red Banner: the king can afford to send help. Both: the king has his subject's back as much as possible given the circumstances.
Basically the war mission is nice, but it's not necessary and we REALLY need to deal with the damned weather, which is a fair sight more dangerous than the Horde.

Incidentally, did the horde take a swing at the Thunder Speakers?
 
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Depends on the historians, and how things evolve. Like, if they were to all disappear next turn then they would probably become like the Indus: an interesting and surprisingly sophisticated civilization that ultimately had little impact on the greater history of the world. If its industrial age historians from the same tradition then they would have a very different opinion. The overall opinion is likely to be somewhere in between. In all likelihood, all prior struggles and accomplishments up to this point will be lumped into one or two categories like "Pre-Dynastic" or "Old Kingdom" and all the real fun stuff (in the opinion of historians) starts when they become a local hegemon and do exciting things like go out and conquer new territory and get into catastrophic civil wars that epics are written about.

Sounds like we will get in a civil war and conquer the world sooner or later.
 
all the real fun stuff (in the opinion of historians) starts when they become a local hegemon and do exciting things like go out and conquer new territory and get into catastrophic civil wars that epics are written about.
"So here's 3000 years of peace and relative utopia, so far as we can tell, under the Ymaryn Hegemony. Boring, right?"
 
It occurs to me that this means if we play it all out reasonably well, historians are going to go "The Ymaryn are boring as shit, there isn't anything cool to talk about since they all handle things so goddamn peacefully! Ooh, I know! Let's write an expose about how actually it was all a thieving den of backstabbers, ignoring the fact that it was actually quite subdued compared to all the backstabbing elsewhere, because the only other option is talking about their goddamn tax records!"
Or
"We could talk about Ymaryn tax records or some love affair that the Ymaryn clearly didn't care about overmuch, or we could talk about the bloodbath in the Lowlands! Let's talk about the Lowlands bloodbath."
Or
"There is no fucking way these so-called Ymaryn never had a civil war. That's bullshit, your government is bullshit, these historical records are bullshit, it's all faked, and in conclusion, go fuck yourself. Signed, Xohyrissian School of History"
 
@veekie, I remember your temple-building plan, how you want to start at Redshore and move up. Why not start at Stonepen? It would be provincially adjacent to Sacred Forest, so religious drift wouldn't occur.
 
Basically the war mission is nice, but it's not necessary and we REALLY need to deal with the damned weather, which is a fair sight more dangerous than the Horde.
You presume not dealing with the horde will give us more actions to deal with the weather rather than it causing the war to drag on and ultimately be a larger drain.
 
You presume not dealing with the horde will give us more actions to deal with the weather rather than it causing the war to drag on and ultimately be a larger drain.
The nomads will be going up against the Stallion Tribes, Western Wall, the Heaven's Hawks, and the Red Banner Company. The only reason the nomads are attacking is because they're a new tribe and thus fatally stupid, not because they have any actual chance of a victory.
 
You presume not dealing with the horde will give us more actions to deal with the weather rather than it causing the war to drag on and ultimately be a larger drain.

It is incredibly unlikely that a single secondary war mission will be the deciding factor in a conflict that already includes the Stallions and two mercenary companies. If the northern tribes are that strong they were going to overwhelm the Heaven's Hawks no matter what. However, given that they're hardly treated as an overwhelming threat in the text I think that's unlikely at best.
 
I have a new argument in favor of not speaking against the Divine Patrons. It would make for an interesting myth for people to look back on, as there would be a myth meant to explain it, and it would likely have something to do with the current climate change.
 
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