- Location
- Hell
We could try and not go into negative stability? Baby boom is still in effect. We are already getting Econ passively
And the alternate plan also had those study actions. Don't act as if your plan was the only hope of this happening.
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
- Start date
- Original
Powerofmind
In Madness Fallen
- Location
- United States
There is a (10% and 60% is 6%) chance of losing nothing. There is a (10% or 60% is 40%) chance of losing 1. There is a 54% chance of losing 2.
I have long pointed out just how little I care that stability shifts down or up (so long as it never shifts into collapse far down). My plan also doesn't give our sweet new bonus to those dirty foreigners.
- Location
- Voidbetweenstars
wait does that mean were actively suppling the cure and can thus cute it off if people enrage us?
keenscythe
No longer NEET
- Location
- WA, USA
[x] The whole lowlands are kind of a mess, you know? (-3 Stability, +6-8 Econ, other effects)
[X] Share with even those who don't want to listen (-1 Diplomacy, +1 immediate Stability, chance for additional stability, other effects)
[X] Megaproject Support
Changing vote for prudent gambling
[X] Share with even those who don't want to listen (-1 Diplomacy, +1 immediate Stability, chance for additional stability, other effects)
[X] Megaproject Support
Changing vote for prudent gambling
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
<3
Okay so our choices are basically:
Plan Go Really Ham:
[] The whole lowlands are kind of a mess, you know? (-3 Stability, +6-8 Econ, other effects)
[] Share with even those who don't want to listen (-1 Diplomacy, +1 immediate Stability, chance for additional stability, other effects)
[] Megaproject Support
Next Turn = Rush The Garden.
Downsides: People won't be dying from cholera.
Upsides: People will like us but also will know how to cholera other people.
Plan Be Really Judicious:
[X] A significant number (-1 Stability, +2 Econ)
[X] Keep it secret (Chance of Stability loss)
[x] Megaproject Support
Next Turn = Slow Saltern??
Downsides: People are mad because we survived cholera and they don't know why.
Upsides: People will be dying from cholera while we aren't.
Still waiting on AN's replies as to what we'd share before I pick a side more than I already have.
Wow, okay, everything.
So basically people will be like "They solved what killed all of my relatives!! Amazing!!" But also like "So if we put their waste inside a jar and throw it in those people's river..."
Motoko
Herald of Iron to The People
- Location
- Canada, ontario
Guys, We need to keep sanitary tech to ourselves. It'll give us an incredible medical advantage over others and help keep our people alive longer so we can have a greater population. While we have a paradise, everyone else will be tied back and weak due to the plague and we'll be able to do some more shit without worry of someone trying to kick our teeth in for a bit.
Like, people, moderation?
We got the baby boom going and even one more turn would literally pay for all of our megaproject desires when combined with divine stewards and symphony.
At -2 or -1 we're likely to get problems in being able to complete the megaproject in a timely fashion, being forced to dump a significant amount of econ
At -1 we could just finish the megaproject and gain stability
at 0, which we would get if we took the -1 hit, we could go into positive stability after finishing the megaproject!
This will also end the baby boom! You're all going to fill up all of our econ slots and we will have no longer have our very strong long term advantage of +3 econ/turn!
We got the baby boom going and even one more turn would literally pay for all of our megaproject desires when combined with divine stewards and symphony.
At -2 or -1 we're likely to get problems in being able to complete the megaproject in a timely fashion, being forced to dump a significant amount of econ
Yes, but at -2 we need to spend an action.
At -1 we could just finish the megaproject and gain stability
at 0, which we would get if we took the -1 hit, we could go into positive stability after finishing the megaproject!
This will also end the baby boom! You're all going to fill up all of our econ slots and we will have no longer have our very strong long term advantage of +3 econ/turn!
- Location
- United States
That makes much more sense, especially with AN clarifying what exactly we'll be telling them.
However, I don't agree on taking in everyone; that would put us way too low on stability for me to be comfortable with.
- Location
- Hell
We aren't dying from smallpox either and we have heard zero complaints so far.
- Location
- US
[x] The whole lowlands are kind of a mess, you know? (-3 Stability, +6-8 Econ, other effects)
[x] Share with even those who don't want to listen (-1 Diplomacy, +1 immediate Stability, chance for additional stability, other effects)
[X] Megaproject Support
[x] Share with even those who don't want to listen (-1 Diplomacy, +1 immediate Stability, chance for additional stability, other effects)
[X] Megaproject Support
- Location
- Canada
I just realized with everyone reeling from the damages of the war and cholera if we take in all the lowlands refugee we can
[x] The whole lowlands are kind of a mess, you know? (-3 Stability, +6-8 Econ, other effects)
Plus forcing everyone else to conform to our new cultural standard of hygiene
[x] Share with even those who don't want to listen (-1 Diplomacy, +1 immediate Stability, chance for additional stability, other effects)
Along with Expansion to handle all the influx of refugees and the glut of young men with nothing to do and no women to marry.
[X] Expansion
We'll essentially establish a regional hegemony and quite possibly get set on our way to the path of a massive empire.
[x] The whole lowlands are kind of a mess, you know? (-3 Stability, +6-8 Econ, other effects)
Plus forcing everyone else to conform to our new cultural standard of hygiene
[x] Share with even those who don't want to listen (-1 Diplomacy, +1 immediate Stability, chance for additional stability, other effects)
Along with Expansion to handle all the influx of refugees and the glut of young men with nothing to do and no women to marry.
[X] Expansion
We'll essentially establish a regional hegemony and quite possibly get set on our way to the path of a massive empire.
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If the Baby Boom is still ongoing, I have much less concern over our economic status, so let's invest in stability.
We've only so much expansion room left, though, so we'll need to deal with that soon; expansion pretty much has to be our next priority.
[X] A significant number (-1 Stability, +2 Econ)
[X] Share with even those who don't want to listen (-1 Diplomacy, +1 immediate Stability, chance for additional stability, other effects)
[X] Megaproject Support
We've only so much expansion room left, though, so we'll need to deal with that soon; expansion pretty much has to be our next priority.
[X] A significant number (-1 Stability, +2 Econ)
[X] Share with even those who don't want to listen (-1 Diplomacy, +1 immediate Stability, chance for additional stability, other effects)
[X] Megaproject Support
- Location
- Illinois
Well, AN has pretty much stated that if anyone does try that, we go out and start an offensive war that makes all other offensive wars look cute. So... I'll take that risk.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Well, only in that you'll manage to somehow make salt even more valuable and if you have the saltern you would be able to take advantage of that.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
Oh, wow, this is a significant reason to NOT go for the megaproject support + taking in 6-8 Econ of people. Our econ slots will be completely filled and we won't be having our provinces make more slots.
Holy shit.
No.
You'll take that risk that we'll go out and start wars with people? A risk that wouldn't exist if they didn't have the knowledge? Interesting choice.
But also a motivation to spread the knowledge to everyone so that no one will be like "lol these people don't know" which is more likely to have us end up going to war.
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pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
- Location
- Lawrence's Wagon
Well, the price and available quantity of salt will get bad fast for them. But they'll have a bit at least from domestic sources I expect.
- Location
- United States
Guys, we only have 6 econ slots left. Taking in everyone will end our baby boom and cause crowding issues.
You're forgetting we get a +1 stability for starting a plague related megaproject
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- Location
- Hell
That sounds like it would immediately end our baby boom and create huge centralization problems, like oh my god we would not be prepared for such a huge influx of people.
- Location
- Illinois
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