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Because she will.
Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
I was exactly thinking you're unwilling to consider Sayaka to be not at fault, since this:You just sound like your unwilling to see the fact that we are not the ones at fault here for once.
doesn't even make sense, considering the transformed/untransformed divide in magical feats.
And the hell? Blaming Sayaka for not noticing she's got super strenght at all times?
Did you expect her to around punching furniture?Even if you could blame her for that, for Sayaka it's a matter of discovering her new powers she doesn't know about.
For us it was a choice to not elucidate her and let her realize she's got super strenght while untransformed whenever that happened. It just so happened she's broke Mami's table to realize her super strenght can be activated while untransformed, look at that.
We chose to leave things be, so Mami's table got broken. Really, as Sayaka's meguca senpai we should have told her about her super strenght and stamina, so it is our fault that Mami's table got broken.
EDIT: It is also Mami's fault.
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Muramasa
Best Girl
Did Oriko lose her head? I don't recall. It's probably not necessary to be that graphic but otherwise I got no objections.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Homura destroyed Oriko's neck, so we had to re-attach her head.
Is that really graphic? If we don't mention the kind of injuries meguca get in fights, how is Hitomi gonna understand?
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... It is also our fault for trying to tell sayaka what was going on, it is also our fault for doing so in Mami's house, it is also technically our fault for everything that happens in this quest, however quilting Sabrina about every single thing she could have prevented will lead to problems, in this case Sayaka is at fault because she lost her temper, she did the thing that cause the broken table herself because she lacks control.
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- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Everything between her shoulders and her upper jaw was described as a brutalized mass of flesh. Homu wasn't fucking around with low caliber shots.
Muramasa
Best Girl
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- Voidbetweenstars
Can we just 'K.I.S.S' cause trying for complicated vote trying to address and solve all the problems in one big go seems to be having problems.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
We're the one in a position of autority, and the one holding knowledge Sayaka needs.
We chose to not allow her that knowledge, despite noticing Sayaka hadn't found out on her own.
Thus, we failed our responsibility to educate our kouhai who put her trust on us.
If you blame Sayaka for breaking the table here, you have to blame every people who ever hits anything as an unconscious gesture, because that's all Sayaka did.
She didn't know the table would break; in fact, she trusted the table to not break just like tables had not broken every other single time she hit them.
Accidentally breaking things when getting super powers is even a common literally trope. It's expected, and we should be lenient, specially as we did nothing to stop this from happening.
Kind of wish you could subtract, honestly:
Out of your entire, massive vote, these are the only two phrases that are actually objectionable, mostly because they entirely invalidate everything that comes afterward. The first one concedes the entire argument in Sayaka's favor, at least in her mind it does, and means that everything that comes afterward is so much wasted air. The second one pointedly dismisses Mami's concern for Sabrina, which just shows her that we again aren't acknowledging her own insecurities and instabilities, and just harrying off on our own plans and expecting her to obey us. Remove those two phrases and we're all good.
Gadjo
Doka
You're right.
[Q] Kiss her, you fool!
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- Canada
[X] The Narrator
Not overly fond of the last one, but the first few seem good.
Not overly fond of the last one, but the first few seem good.
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- South Africa
Why? I absolutely hold Sabrina accountable for almost everything that has happened in the quest. Because she absolutely is responsible for most of it. It's one of the reasons I'm so pro science. Because I see just about every horrible thing that has happened in the PMAS Universe as my fault for failing to convince you guys to develop the power to stop it.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
We need to address Sayaka specifically in some way because she's about to do something stupid, like running away, like I think, or punching Sabrina, like others think.
Damn stuff for daring to happen. It's always the same with stuff! *Shakes arm violently*
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We have a swimming pool's worth of Grief over our head. If she starts to try something we can bury her up to her eyeballs in it; in fact we should probably prepare to do just that, since she's already proven to not entirely be in control of her own actions.
If, however, we start apologizing to her again right now, right after she flew off the handle and is ranting about how wrong we are, she's going to stop listening with her ears and only listen with her mouth, and all the rest of the vote is going to be wasted breath. We've already tried apologizing, and it's already backfired, in exactly the way I've described; doing the same thing again expecting a different result is just madness.
And there's no excuse at all for "asking" Mami to let go of Hitomi right now. We already owe her an apology for not taking care of ourself; there's no need at all to compound that error by ignoring her concerns right when they've proven to be somewhat valid. Be reassuring, but let's let her be protective; it'll make her feel a little better and doesn't cost us anything.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
[Q] Swoon. "My hero!"
-[Q] Let yourself drop in Mami's arms.
--[Q] Then kiss her.
---[Q] This'll shock Sayaka and Hitomi out of their anger, right? Hitomi will totally go "girls can't love girls"!
We don't want Sayaka to try something stupid.
And it's not even an apology, just re-stating we should have let them know everything last week.And if Mami doesn't let go of Hitomi on her own, we need to prompt her. We can't discuss things calmly while having the injured, only non superpowered girl in the room restrained.
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No that is admitting we are in the wrong meaning we are wrong, they will not listen to us if we do that.
Yes, but we can't start messing with Mami anymore, so...
[Q] We have to be fair. Since Hitomi's being restrained, we all have to be.
-[Q] Bury everyone in the room up to their neck in solid Grief.
--[Q] Including yourself; have to be fair after all.
---[Q] Shape Grief into monoliths; label with "ELEES-01" through "EELES-04"
Seriously, though, let's just let Mami come down from her panic attack on her own. We can be reassuring, but we shouldn't be suggesting things that she's uncomfortable with; she, after all, is the girl among our friends who does deserve the coddling that we're forcing on everyone else.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
[Q] Be Sadbrina.
-[Q] I tried so hard, and got so far, but in the end... it doesn't even matter...
--[Q] Become a dark edgelord like Best Buddy. She understands you and doesn't afraid of anything.
-[Q] I tried so hard, and got so far, but in the end... it doesn't even matter...
--[Q] Become a dark edgelord like Best Buddy. She understands you and doesn't afraid of anything.
She was fucking around with high caliber shots.
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SaltyWaffles
I am dissapoint, son
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I feel like we should point out a few things:
1) Oriko burned down Sayaka's house knowing that we would show up in time to save her (even then, she wanted until she personally saw us arrive before leaving)--precog, after all.
2) Oriko burned down Sayaka's house with the specific intention of saving Sayaka's life.
3) We really weren't in any condition to go all the way over to Hitomi's home in the middle of the night (while wounded, no less), fill her in on the entire situation, and then get her opinion about what we should do with Oriko and Kirika. And since Sayaka was in an ambulance, we couldn't have asked her, either.
4) There were two options: leaving Oriko and Kirika maimed and under house arrest, or executing them. Which would they have preferred?
5) Oriko and Kirika were a major help in stopping a war, saving a lot of lives.
6) Oriko, entirely of her own volition, informed us of a vision she had that saved Sayaka's life.
1) Oriko burned down Sayaka's house knowing that we would show up in time to save her (even then, she wanted until she personally saw us arrive before leaving)--precog, after all.
2) Oriko burned down Sayaka's house with the specific intention of saving Sayaka's life.
3) We really weren't in any condition to go all the way over to Hitomi's home in the middle of the night (while wounded, no less), fill her in on the entire situation, and then get her opinion about what we should do with Oriko and Kirika. And since Sayaka was in an ambulance, we couldn't have asked her, either.
4) There were two options: leaving Oriko and Kirika maimed and under house arrest, or executing them. Which would they have preferred?
5) Oriko and Kirika were a major help in stopping a war, saving a lot of lives.
6) Oriko, entirely of her own volition, informed us of a vision she had that saved Sayaka's life.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
So far I feel we've avoided trying to justify Oriko's actions, specially if they were based on her powers, because... it'd sound like bullshit. It's basically only Oriko's word, after all.
We did inform her of this.
Karnewarrior
Leastmost of the Hanged Man Arcana
Looks really good. I think I might make a couple slight modifications to the wording; If you don't mind.
[] to Mami: "Thanks, Mami."
-[] to Sayaka: "Please give me moment."
--[] to Hitomi: "'Pronounce Judgement' how, exactly? By not killing them? Or by locking them away? What would you have had me do?"
---[] after Hitomi's answer break to voting.
{MAMI: We need to get around to Sayaka and Hitomi before their rage boils long enough. We're close enough to Mami that a quick thank you is functionally identical to the long drawn out one; in fact, we're so often hyper-affectionate with the mumi (cuz she's mumi obviously) that something honest and short might resonate better. Changing things up a little shouldn't hurt.}
{SAYA: Not really a great way to convince her to stay; if she's going to bolt, she's going to bolt. Honestly, I still say that if Blueberry wants to punch us a little, we can let her; as long as she's not breaking bones, we can heal and it'll be great for her state of mind. On the other hand, we didn't do anything too wrong, so we should be ready to block if she decides she's a wookie and tries to rip our arms off}
{HTMI: Okay Princess, what? We fucked up not telling you and Sayaka before hand, but the "Right to Pronounce Judgement" is most DEFINITELY ours. Or more specifically, Mami's, but in that situation, it was delegated. Even in the Human law enforcement system, the victim isn't allowed to determine the punishment of the guilty.}
What we say and what Sayaka hears are two different things. Frankly it doesn't matter what we say; what matters is what Sayaka hears. Right now the current vote opens with something Sayaka will hear as "You are right; I am wrong," and at that point we may as well stop talking because she's not going to hear anything else.We don't want Sayaka to try something stupid.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
GiftOfLove
From the Heart
I wonder if Hitomi thinks we cut off Oriko's arm in retaliation for them breaking hers.