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I'm not going to weigh in on the logic of either side's arguments, but I will ask that everyone read over what they write and really consider if the words they used are polite and won't be inflammatory intentionally or not. You cant account for people's tolerances perfectly but at least try to say your piece without saying things that can be easily construed as overly dismissive of the other side of the argument, thank you.

Please endeavour to be cordial. :^)
 
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[X] Plan: Knock Knock Monoliths and Learning. (Turn 59)

[X] Whitebeard's Letter: Through elvish contacts, we know that some elves of Tor Vernath are asking for Bel'Shannar's assistance, putting Malekith and his allies under time pressure. The Mages Malekith visited were suppressed by Bel'Shannar, since he could not ally with them and do not have much incentive to care about magical backlash to the people living here - only that their patron succeeds and spites Bel'Shannar and that the Waystone network in the Far North is not totally destroyed. Prince Gimli is friends with Prince Laequalys of Tor Vernath and the elf and his own mages may have a useful additional perspective.

[X] [Social:] Dolgi Skarrisson and Kemma Brunasdottir's Nauvsdeg.
[X] [Social:] Izgrom, putting another rock by Karstah's door.

[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about the other Thungni-Chosen [Limited]

Edit: updated Letter vote.
 
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Please include the Turn 59 bit at the end so it all shows up together in the tally.
Okay then.

[X] Whitebeard's Letter: [Less than 100 words, 3 main points about what you focus on when sharing your knowledge about Elven politics with Snorri Whitebeard.] Through our elvish contacts, we know that some elves of Tor Vernath are asking for Bel'Shannar's assistance and thus putting Malekith and his allies into active time pressure. The Mages Malekith visited were suppressed and pushed out of influence by Bel'Shannar since he could not ally with them and do not have much incentive to care about magical backlash to the people living here - only that their patron succeeds and spites Bel'Shannar and that the Waystone network in the Far North is not totally destroyed. Gimli, Son of Gloin, is friends with Prince Laequalys of Tor Vernath and the elf and his own mages may have a useful additional perspective.
You read my post, yes?
You do know that this vote is over the Word Limit of 100, being 110 words, yes?
I rewrote a version that is 97 words, you saw that, yes?
[X] Whitebeard's Letter: [Less than 100 words, 3 main points about what you focus on when sharing your knowledge about Elven politics with Snorri Whitebeard.] Confirm that Whitebeard is on the same page on Elvish politics, ( Tor Vernath's pressure on Malekith to finish quickly and Bel'Shannar's suppression of the mages opposing him), note the Mages Malekith visited have little reason to care about the aftereffects on the land, only that Malekith success to spite Bel'Shannar, and that the Waystones remain functional, you think the backlash will be worse than Malekith's says because of that. Gimli, Son of Gloin, is friends with Prince Laequalys of Tor Vernath and the elf and his own mages may have a useful additional perspective on the ritual.
Or, is my rewrite missing certain details? What needs to be changed about it then?

Or, did you just skim looking for votes without (Turn 59) added to it?
If so, fair enough.
 
[X] Plan: Knock Knock Monoliths and Learning. (Turn 59)

[X] Whitebeard's Letter: [Less than 100 words, 3 main points about what you focus on when sharing your knowledge about Elven politics with Snorri Whitebeard.] Confirm that Whitebeard is on the same page on Elvish politics, ( Tor Vernath's pressure on Malekith to finish quickly and Bel'Shannar's suppression of the mages opposing him), note the Mages Malekith visited have little reason to care about the aftereffects on the land, only that Malekith success to spite Bel'Shannar, and that the Waystones remain functional, you think the backlash will be worse than Malekith's says because of that. Gimli, Son of Gloin, is friends with Prince Laequalys of Tor Vernath and the elf and his own mages may have a useful additional perspective on the ritual.

[X] [Social:] Izgrom, putting another rock by Karstah's door.
 
[X] Whitebeard's Letter: Through elvish contacts, we know that some elves of Tor Vernath are asking for Bel'Shannar's assistance, putting Malekith and his allies under time pressure. The Mages Malekith visited were suppressed by Bel'Shannar, since he could not ally with them and do not have much incentive to care about magical backlash to the people living here - only that their patron succeeds and spites Bel'Shannar and that the Waystone network in the Far North is not totally destroyed. Prince Gimli is friends with Prince Laequalys of Tor Vernath and the elf and his own mages may have a useful additional perspective.
[X] [Social:] Dolgi Dolgisson's feathered friends.
[X] [Social:] Izgrom, putting another rock by Karstah's door.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about current Izril Politics [Extensive, Evolving]
[X] Plan: Knock Knock Monoliths and Learning. (Turn 59)
 
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We aren't required to fit everything into the combo concept. As is your entire dragon with all the comboing going exactly as planned would probably turn into a more effective combatant if the claw was replaced with one that had a simple 3×Fire engraved to add reliable AoE and everyone's go-to element for purging the esoteric.

Though that new(?) Weapon-MValaya on the sheet looks pretty interesting. Claws aren't strictly axes, but fairly close if you squint, and some 'The wielders's grasp cares not for magic or trickery'-combo seems reachable and close to the overall big savage dragon theme. It's not yet known to Snorri, but seems like something that could pop up in any random trade he encounters.
The easiest alt rune to MCurrents we can get our hands on is reverse engineering the albion sword and hoping MAlaric pops out. That's something I'd like to do soonish and it only takes 2 karstah ap to finish it. It's probably better to wait till we do esp2 before having Karstah do it so she can finish it with windsight but that should still be fine since the claws will be the third item built after the heart and wings at the earliest.
 
[X] [Social:] Dolgi Dolgisson's feathered friends.
[X] [Social:] Izgrom, putting another rock by Karstah's door.

[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about how the Izril Clans are managing their creation[Standard, Evolving]

I got my reasons.

By the way, our Burudin challenge has been up for a long while. Seems like nobody cares about killing daemons too much.
Some of those were there for Milenias. That is not such a organization.
 
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[X] [Social:] Izgrom, putting another rock by Karstah's door.
[X] [Social:] Dolgi Dolgisson's feathered friends.
[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about the other Thungni-Chosen [Limited]

[X] Whitebeard's Letter: Through elvish contacts, we know that some elves of Tor Vernath are asking for Bel'Shannar's assistance, putting Malekith and his allies under time pressure. The Mages Malekith visited were suppressed by Bel'Shannar, since he could not ally with them and do not have much incentive to care about magical backlash to the people living here - only that their patron succeeds and spites Bel'Shannar and that the Waystone network in the Far North is not totally destroyed. Prince Gimli is friends with Prince Laequalys of Tor Vernath and the elf and his own mages may have a useful additional perspective.


[X] Plan: Knock Knock Monoliths and Learning. (Turn 59)

[jk] Write-in, Challenge Them: [Cost: 0 actions] Give a challenge + stipulations you wish to offer the Burudin. Only 2 Challenges can be active at a time and only 1 can be submitted a turn. Craft a rune in Snorri's presence. Reward: Windsight.
 
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Eight rings one for each Wind of Magic that when worn a dwarf can cast spells from that wind like any mage. Wear all eight together and a sufficiently skilled dwarf can wield High Magic.
Iirc the windsight eye required a separate gem for quayash, so you may need to forge an additional ring to combine the winds of magic. You know, one ring to rule them all, one ring to bind them…
 
Apologies everyone, minor amendment. The Social option about Snorri Jollsson was a goof on my part. Its Joll bringing Snorri, his son and apprentice, to Khazagar.

I don't think this works? The hammer's trait here is:

But the action [] The Brotherhood Calls isn't a crafting option. It's writing up notes and such. I don't see how a hammer is going to help Snorri write better or faster. So I think we're only going to get 1 action's worth of progress here, instead of four. Am I right/wrong, @soulcake?
Frankly thats on me being a goof. Technically its correct so i'll let it slide this time instead of punish you.
 
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[X] Plan: Knock Knock Monoliths and Learning.

[X] Whitebeard's Letter: Through elvish contacts, we know that some elves of Tor Vernath are asking for Bel'Shannar's assistance, putting Malekith and his allies under time pressure. The Mages Malekith visited were suppressed by Bel'Shannar, since he could not ally with them and do not have much incentive to care about magical backlash to the people living here - only that their patron succeeds and spites Bel'Shannar and that the Waystone network in the Far North is not totally destroyed. Prince Gimli is friends with Prince Laequalys of Tor Vernath and the elf and his own mages may have a useful additional perspective.

[X] [Social:] Dolgi Skarrisson and Kemma Brunasdottir's Nauvsdeg.
[X] [Social:] Snorri Jollsson brings his apprentice to Khazagar.

[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about the other Thungni-Chosen [Limited]
 
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(*Updated*)[ ] The Road to Anoqeyån Pt. 2: [Cost: 6 actions] Master of the Odd will proc. Gain exceptional- understanding of Anoqeyån. Menlinwen is leaving to undertake the final stages of becoming an Archmage turn 65. Now that Menlinwen has taught you the very fundamentals of the Elven arcane language, she feels comfortable enough to begin teaching you to the same level she has reached. Going any further beyond this point requires waiting for Menlinwen to become an Archmage or for you to find one yourself.
At this rate, this might happen before we take up further lessons and we'll be able to just learn the full thing from Menlinwen.
 
[X] Plan: Knock Knock Monoliths and Learning. (Turn 59)
-[X] Snorri & Karstah
--[X] [Difficult] Build Brynbar pt 2 (2 Karstah) This is for her own use.
--[X] Khazagar (2 Karstah) Generates 3 Khazagar actions, any left over remain to be used later.
---[X] Change Curriculum: Switch Prosthetics with Dum-Denial. 1 Khaz.
---[X] Learning Rune of Spellburning. 2 Khaz + T2 White Lion's Heart.
--[X] [Simple] Once more with Smelting #2 (1 Snorri + 3 KKR) Wear BA/Skarren
--[X] [Simple] The Brotherhood Calls (1 Snorri + 3 KKR)
--[X] [Difficult] Monolith Mastery pt 1 (1 Snorri)
--[X] [Difficult] Examine KKR (1 Snorri)
--[X] [Difficult] Skaudardrengi pt 2 (1 Snorri + 2 KKR) This does not finish the Dragon. This is prep for turn 60 and is meant to develop the Rune we chose by Going All Out.
--[X] The Road to Anoqeyån Pt. 2 (1 Snorri)
-[X] Retainers & Orders
--[X] Expedition, Grom [1 Retainer + Industry of the North]
--[X] Training Regime Pt. 2 [3 Retainer]
--[X] Order: T4 Elder Storm Wyrm's Gas Sac
--[X] Royal Authority Order: T4 Elder Storm Wyrm Wing Tendons [-15 Far North Favor]
--[X] Royal Authority Order: T4 Great Eagle Feather [-15 Karak Ungor Favor]
--[X] Royal Authority Order: T4 Elder Storm Wyrm's Heart [-15 Far North Favor]


[X] Whitebeard's Letter: [Less than 100 words, 3 main points about what you focus on when sharing your knowledge about Elven politics with Snorri Whitebeard.] Through our elvish contacts, we know that some elves of Tor Vernath are asking for Bel'Shannar's assistance and thus putting Malekith and his allies into active time pressure. The Mages Malekith visited were suppressed and pushed out of influence by Bel'Shannar since he could not ally with them and do not have much incentive to care about magical backlash to the people living here - only that their patron succeeds and spites Bel'Shannar and that the Waystone network in the Far North is not totally destroyed. Gimli, Son of Gloin, is friends with Prince Laequalys of Tor Vernath and the elf and his own mages may have a useful additional perspective.

[X] [Social:] Dolgi Skarrisson and Kemma Brunasdottir's Nauvsdeg.
[X] [Social:] Izgrom, putting another rock by Karstah's door.

[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about the other Thungni-Chosen [Limited]
 
Apologies everyone, minor amendment. The Social option about Snorri Jollsson was a goof on my part. Its Joll bringing Snorri, his son and apprentice, to Khazagar.


Frankly thats on me being a goof. Technically its correct so i'll let it slide this time instead of punish you.
Noted: Karaz-Kazak-Rhun is a surprisingly effective paperweight. Addendum: Never tell this to anyone. :V
"Sorry Elder, can't help you today, gotta study Karaz-Kazak-Rune, you know how it is."
 
[X] Plan: Knock Knock Monoliths and Learning. (Turn 59)

[X] Whitebeard's Letter: [Less than 100 words, 3 main points about what you focus on when sharing your knowledge about Elven politics with Snorri Whitebeard.] Through our elvish contacts, we know that some elves of Tor Vernath are asking for Bel'Shannar's assistance and thus putting Malekith and his allies into active time pressure. The Mages Malekith visited were suppressed and pushed out of influence by Bel'Shannar since he could not ally with them and do not have much incentive to care about magical backlash to the people living here - only that their patron succeeds and spites Bel'Shannar and that the Waystone network in the Far North is not totally destroyed. Gimli, Son of Gloin, is friends with Prince Laequalys of Tor Vernath and the elf and his own mages may have a useful additional perspective.

[X] [Social:] Joll bringing his son Snorri to Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Izgrom, putting another rock by Karstah's door.

[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about the other Thungni-Chosen [Limited]
 
[X] Plan: Knock Knock Monoliths and Learning. (Turn 59)

[X] Whitebeard's Letter: [Less than 100 words, 3 main points about what you focus on when sharing your knowledge about Elven politics with Snorri Whitebeard.] Through our elvish contacts, we know that some elves of Tor Vernath are asking for Bel'Shannar's assistance and thus putting Malekith and his allies into active time pressure. The Mages Malekith visited were suppressed and pushed out of influence by Bel'Shannar since he could not ally with them and do not have much incentive to care about magical backlash to the people living here - only that their patron succeeds and spites Bel'Shannar and that the Waystone network in the Far North is not totally destroyed. Gimli, Son of Gloin, is friends with Prince Laequalys of Tor Vernath and the elf and his own mages may have a useful additional perspective.

[X] [Social:] Joll bringing his son Snorri to Khazagar.
[X] [Social:] Izgrom, putting another rock by Karstah's door.

[X] [Letters:] Knowledge about the other Thungni-Chosen [Limited]
 
[x] Plan: Knock Knock Monoliths and Learning. (Turn 59)
- [x] Snorri & Karstah
-- [x] [Difficult] Build Brynbar pt 2 (2 Karstah) This is for her own use.
-- [x] Khazagar (2 Karstah) Generates 3 Khazagar actions, any left over remain to be used later.
--- [x] Change Curriculum: Switch Prosthetics with Dum-Denial. 1 Khaz.
--- [x] Learning Rune of Spellburning. 2 Khaz + T2 White Lion's Heart.
-- [x] [Simple] Once more with Smelting #2 (1 Snorri + 3 KKR) Wear BA/Skarren
-- [x] [Simple] The Brotherhood Calls (1 Snorri + 3 KKR)
-- [x] [Difficult] Monolith Mastery pt 1 (1 Snorri)
-- [x] [Difficult] Examine KKR (1 Snorri)
-- [x] [Difficult] Skaudardrengi pt 2 (1 Snorri + 2 KKR) This does not finish the Dragon. This is prep for turn 60 and is meant to develop the Rune we chose by Going All Out.
-- [x] The Road to Anoqeyån Pt. 2 (1 Snorri)
- [x] Retainers & Orders
-- [x] Expedition, Grom [1 Retainer + Industry of the North]
-- [x] Training Regime Pt. 2 [3 Retainer]
-- [x] Order: T4 Elder Storm Wyrm's Gas Sac
-- [x] Royal Authority Order: T4 Elder Storm Wyrm Wing Tendons [-15 Far North Favor]
-- [x] Royal Authority Order: T4 Great Eagle Feather [-15 Karak Ungor Favor]
-- [x] Royal Authority Order: T4 Elder Storm Wyrm's Heart [-15 Far North Favor]
[x] [X] Whitebeard's Letter: [Less than 100 words, 3 main points about what you focus on when sharing your knowledge about Elven politics with Snorri Whitebeard.] Through our elvish contacts, we know that some elves of Tor Vernath are asking for Bel'Shannar's assistance and thus putting Malekith and his allies in active time pressure. The Mages Malekith visited were suppressed and pushed out of influence by Bel'Shannar since he could not ally with them and do not have much incentive to care about magical backlash to the people living here - only that Malekith their patron succeeds and spites Bel'Shannar. Gimli, Son of Gloin, is friends with Prince Laequalys of Tor Vernath and Laequalys and his own mages may have a useful additional perspective.
 
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