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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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Kyreneryk said:
(I'm not on board with the whole "no proliferation of runecrafting" thing, by the way. Partly because things like the Great Seal demonstrate that sometimes you need runecrafting to fix a problem, and partly because Oro knows it anyway and I really don't want Oro to be left as the only person with PS if we die. So in particular, in the long run I want Kagome to learn Earth Element and for us to teach him PS. But as long as we're alive, I agree that I'm cool with keeping runecrafting highly restricted.)
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There's a middle ground here where we make sure that only the people we believe will handle it well get taught it. That would include Kagome and Jiraiya, for instance.

After we are done mopping up apocalypses we absolutely need to cook up three dozen ways to idiot proof the setting so that the next Dummy to come along a thousand years from now isn't flying blind on all this crap :V
 

BoC 20 Substrate Tweak



TypeManuver
ElementEarth
Effect 2, 3, 4+30, 60, 100
DurationConcentration+50
Durabilityn/a
Range-2 (personal)only stone you're touching
Casting Speedseveral minutes-30
AoESame Zone+40
AdvantagePermanent Effect+10
Advantagecan mold non-manually with time penalty+30
Disadvantage Breaks Very Painfully-30(?)
Disadvantage Lingering Major Alertness Debuff (-3AB)-40(?)
DisadvantageElemental Requirement-20
Disadvantage increased ongoing chakra cost-20(?)
TotalsChakra: 4, 10, 18 (+ ongoing costs)Strain: 20, 50, 90

BoC, but...
  • Unlocks viable substrate at level 20 instead of 30. Adjusts Effect-to-AB ratio so that it reaches Effect 4 (when the OG BoC unlocks substrate) at AB 3. Leveling BoC beyond AB 3 does not raise the effect beyond Effect 4, or otherwise unlock any additional capabilities.
  • Much-reduced AoE
  • Creates an extremely intense case of tunnel vision, allowing for a more precise manipulation of one's chakra into the material, increasing the 2*AB Alertness debuff to a 3*AB Alertness debuff. This debuff lingers for the next "several hours," according to the time ladder, representing the difficulty in refocusing outside of the tunnel vision (subjective time).
  • Failure to pay chakra costs or losing contact with the manipulated sample results in the standard 3+(Effect) physical stress, but also automatically inflicts a Mental Mild Consequence ("dazed") to represent the violence of breaking such an intense tunnel vision.
  • Ongoing Chakra costs to transform material into valid substrate is 3 chakra/minute, instead of the prior 2 chakra/minute.
 
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Kyreneryk said:
(I'm not on board with the whole "no proliferation of runecrafting" thing, by the way. Partly because things like the Great Seal demonstrate that sometimes you need runecrafting to fix a problem, and partly because Oro knows it anyway and I really don't want Oro to be left as the only person with PS if we die. So in particular, in the long run I want Kagome to learn Earth Element and for us to teach him PS. But as long as we're alive, I agree that I'm cool with keeping runecrafting highly restricted.)
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I'm more of the "leave Cannai with our notes and a carefully-worded oath to only share it if absolutely nessecary, and only to someone he trusts not to unnessicarialy proliferation it" backup strategy. (which, OK, would benefit from a BoC scroll)
And kill Oro, of course.

I've seen some talk of "Haruhisa had TH40+, and he couldn't Hack ES to make substrate, so probably Hazou can't either", and wanted to point out that Haruhisa was trying to design a new Jutsu he could teach Hazo, while Hazou is trying to make a personal tweak that says "at level 50+, ES can be used to make runic substrate", which sounds easier.
 
Left-Hand Mutant said:
@Sir Stompy, I just realised the plan duration should probably specify a 1.3x time dilation, as we're near a major village and risk someone discovering the research site in the next 6 months.
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Isn't Sky a minor village? If it's a village at all, Neck wasn't. Also aren't we 99% burying our time runes anyway? I don't think it's a huge risk.

EDIT: There is a Hidden Sky on the map
 
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Sir Stompy said:
Isn't Sky a minor village? If it's a village at all, Neck wasn't. Also aren't we 99% burying our time runes anyway? I don't think it's a huge risk.

EDIT: There is a Hidden Sky on the map
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We actually teamed up with a sky nin back in the chunnin exams, Katō Yūto. This is how he describes himself
eaglejarl said:
I'm an infiltrator with minimal combat capacity; my chakra reserves are marginal at best, but I was so good at information gathering, codebreaking, asset recruitment, and that sort of thing that they let me stay on as a ninja
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Might be worth while to make contact with him
 
[X] Training Plan (Kei): Pyramid Prep
[X] Training Plan (Noburi): Athletics
[X] Action Plan: Mari's Big Day
[X] Hazō Training Plan: Summoning Best Boi (CR 32 Version)
 
Sir Stompy said:
Isn't Sky a minor village? If it's a village at all, Neck wasn't. Also aren't we 99% burying our time runes anyway? I don't think it's a huge risk.

EDIT: There is a Hidden Sky on the map
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Sky is a minor, my bad.

But we did just make a scene near an abandoned research facility that is at least slightly well-known for a rift sealing failure (kagome had heard of it and could locate it based on secondhand info) so I think extra caution is appropriate.
 
Is there a world where BoC allows faster deployment of runes in the field, instead of the current span of many hours spent on ES for every single rune blank?
 
Kyreneryk said:
Re. the second point - do fighters in the real world have homogeneous skillsets? You have specialists in militaries, so I don't think you can be referring to that; what do you mean by "fighters", and in what way do you think their skillsets are more homogenous than ninja ones? (Not disagreeing with the second thing, but I want to make sure I understand you correctly.)
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The axis by which ninja specialize in practice is almost orthogonal to the axis by which soldiers specialize in reality. Social specs and genjutsu users and eye hax BSers aren't actually largely specialized for different regimes, they all fundamentally design their builds around fighting the same small-group on small-group combats. We don't see Iron Nerve and Byakugan users heavily specialized in the thing they are specifically good at, we see them sock each other in the face. Mostly the setting diversity is even less founded than that, because mostly it's not coming from bloodlines. Naruto's setting's variety exists to show cool new flashy things to its audience, not for military strategy.

I can foresee complaints that this is uncharitable and actually there are for example ninja social specialists, or that different clans really are said to do different things, but I put basically that I don't believe those arguments and the setting as in the text doesn't look like that.
 
Zampano said:
Is there a world where BoC allows faster deployment of runes in the field, instead of the current span of many hours spent on ES for every single rune blank?
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I don't think we have any indication that it is faster. The text of the jutsu's spec describes it as basically Earthshaping, but without some of the fancier stuff and with the ability to turn the targeted material into chakra conductive stone.
 
[X] Hazō Training Plan: Summoning Best Boi (CR 32 Version)

I think CR 33 or CR 34 is where I say it's not worth it to go any higher but sure, give it a shot.
 
MMKII said:
Bank it in case we need to pull the emergency substrate lever I think.
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I'm still puzzled why people think this is an emergency.

We have months before our Rift stealing runes are ready, if we get called back to Leaf before then Oro can just make us the substrate we need.

Like we'll know our research is almost done and have time to fix things.
 
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Sir Stompy said:
We have months before our Rift stealing runes are ready, if we get called back to Leaf before then Oro can just make us the substrate we need.
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In this scenario I think it's mostly that making a fuckload of rune blanks would take days even if we have a pile of SC doing it.

Some folks also might not want to go back to Leaf either. Shrug lol.
 
MMKII said:
In this scenario I think it's mostly that making a fuckload of rune blanks would take days even if we have a pile of SC doing it.

Some folks also might not want to go back to Leaf either. Shrug lol.
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If we drain Noburi's chakra we can make like 6ish blanks in a day. At the most 24ish total blanks for our attack... Should be quick enough IMO.

You think they don't want to go back even if Oro hits the panic button? Why not?
 
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