Remove ads

DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest

Reader mode
TirelessTraveler said:
As a GM myself, it ticks me off when people do write-ins for non-write-in votes. Comes off to me as an attempt to wag the dog.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I mean, the whole thing was essentially in which way we said "No", so it's not like we're modifying the content value of the original choice that was given.

That said, it strikes me that we didn't originally have an interlude scheduled to finish the conversation with Xanatos and QMs may just have intended to end the conversation offscreen, so the addition may well either make no difference, or force QMs to write a short piece just to incorporate the write-in.
 
Last edited:
[X] Develop Your Center
-[X] Pick up the boxed in screw and use it somewhere in the Inator you're working on.

I think that if this interaction brought home anything for me, it's that if we play Xanatos' game, we're going to lose.

Which is why we should be playing our game instead. And let's face it, chess is not Doof's game. I'm not sure what, exactly, Doof's game is, but whatever it is, it has a lot more random factors than chess.
 
Tumach said:
Which is why we should be playing our game instead. And let's face it, chess is not Doof's game. I'm not sure what, exactly, Doof's game is, but whatever it is, it has a lot more random factors than chess.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Charades, probably?
Arathnorn said:
Doofenshmirtz is playing jenga, blindfolded, convinced he's actually playing charades, while three other people frantically try and pick up the pieces behind him.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I think it's Charades.
 
"Pick up the boxed in screw and use it somewhere in the Inator you're working on."

People in discord are debating what the symbolism of this move even is, so I'm going to over-analyze it in the hopes that we're all mostly on the same page and not miscommunicating.
  • Picking up the screw is a rejection of the premise -- "I'm not your pawn, David."
  • Making the screw no longer be boxed is a rejection of the framing -- "No, you don't have me trapped."
  • Taking the screw off the table implies we have the right to move pieces around the chessboard, and are therefore a player rather than a piece.
  • Using the screw as a screw, instead of a chess piece, implies that we don't want to play these sorts of games with him -- "I'm an evil scientist, not a manipulator, and I don't much care for the games manipulators play. This sort of underhanded behaviour isn't a good tack to take with me if you want me to be cooperative."
  • Doing science reminds him that he's in our home territory, giving a marginal psychological advantage.
  • Drawing attention to our -inator reminds him that, far from being a subordinate King more suited to an apprentice role, we're terrifying in our way, just as he is, with our own field that we completely outclass him in. Another psychological advantage.
Anything I missed?
 
MadScientist said:
"Pick up the boxed in screw and use it somewhere in the Inator you're working on."

People in discord are debating what the symbolism of this move even is, so I'm going to over-analyze it in the hopes that we're all mostly on the same page and not miscommunicating.
  • Picking up the screw is a rejection of the premise -- "I'm not your pawn, David."
  • Making the screw no longer be boxed is a rejection of the framing -- "No, you don't have me trapped."
  • Taking the screw off the table implies we have the right to move pieces around the chessboard, and are therefore a player rather than a piece.
  • Using the screw as a screw, instead of a chess piece, implies that we don't want to play these sorts of games with him -- "I'm an evil scientist, not a manipulator, and I don't much care for the games manipulators play. This sort of underhanded behaviour isn't a good tack to take with me if you want me to be cooperative."
  • Doing science reminds him that he's in our home territory, giving a marginal psychological advantage.
  • Drawing attention to our -inator reminds him that, far from being a subordinate King more suited to an apprentice role, we're terrifying in our way, just as he is, with our own field that we completely outclass him in. Another psychological advantage.
Anything I missed?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Using the screw as a screw instead of as a chess piece also serves as a reminder that Doof's actions aren't going to always fit neatly into predictable patterns. It's not just that he doesn't play the manipulation game, it's that he occasionally tosses everyone playing chess a curveball.
 
Last edited:
MadScientist said:
"Pick up the boxed in screw and use it somewhere in the Inator you're working on."

People in discord are debating what the symbolism of this move even is, so I'm going to over-analyze it in the hopes that we're all mostly on the same page and not miscommunicating.
  • Picking up the screw is a rejection of the premise -- "I'm not your pawn, David."
  • Making the screw no longer be boxed is a rejection of the framing -- "No, you don't have me trapped."
  • Taking the screw off the table implies we have the right to move pieces around the chessboard, and are therefore a player rather than a piece.
  • Using the screw as a screw, instead of a chess piece, implies that we don't want to play these sorts of games with him -- "I'm an evil scientist, not a manipulator, and I don't much care for the games manipulators play. This sort of underhanded behaviour isn't a good tack to take with me if you want me to be cooperative."
  • Doing science reminds him that he's in our home territory, giving a marginal psychological advantage.
  • Drawing attention to our -inator reminds him that, far from being a subordinate King more suited to an apprentice role, we're terrifying in our way, just as he is, with our own field that we completely outclass him in. Another psychological advantage.
Anything I missed?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
The most important thing, to me, is that Doof doesn't know he's doing it. Fundamentally, he's feeling off balance, unmoored, and so because he's unsure, he's defaulting to looking at his Inator. The metaphor is there, obviously (though I'm not actually sure whether it was deliberate on Xanatos' part either, to be honest), but Doof doesn't know its there. He's just acting normal, and yes, that normalcy conveys some of the things you mentioned.
 
BurnBright said:
The most important thing, to me, is that Doof doesn't know he's doing it. Fundamentally, he's feeling off balance, unmoored, and so because he's unsure, he's defaulting to looking at his Inator. The metaphor is there, obviously (though I'm not actually sure whether it was deliberate on Xanatos' part either, to be honest), but Doof doesn't know its there. He's just acting normal, and yes, that normalcy conveys some of the things you mentioned.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
So, the metaphor is that there is no metaphor, Doof just needed a screw.
 
nwish425 said:
You know what this means? We need a Xanatos Negaquest omake about this, complete with over analysis of Doof using the screw as a screw.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I also imagine the Xanatos Negaquest might have some readers feeling like they just kicked a puppy.

They spent all this time raging at Doof for breaking probability and ruining their plans for that turn. Then, when they manipulate him into regularly sharing his secrets, they're suddenly hit with Doof being hurt because he genuinely wanted a friend and they either missed the subtext that Xanatos was taking advantage of that or didn't realize Doof would take it that hard.
 
Last edited:
TheGleeman said:
Nope...so I take it, its someone spoilery?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Not in the slightest. In Disco Elysium, you play as an amnesiac cop, and Kim Kitsuragi is your partner on the case you're trying to solve.

People who play the game find him generally level-headed and tolerant, sensible, and accommodating of your potential Wacky Hijinks. He's the game's counterbalance; some Weird Stuff happens, some of which You Will Cause, and he's the guy standing on the sidelines who's perhaps vaguely impressed and/or disturbed, but mostly focused on getting the job done.

Except occasionally, when he surprises you. "Don't fuck with Kim Kitsurugi" needs no context, and is a stand-out moment.

Anyway, people really like the guy, and I can understand how they'd draw comparisons between him and Russ. Sorry for leaving you in the lurch with my last response; I assumed it would be okay to make a dumb joke because someone should have explained this to you by now-
 
Last edited:
[X] Take Xanatos' Promotion

Probably not going to win after that subvote but I honestly want to work with Xanatos more. I don't care if he knows what we're doing, he'll do that regardless and I can't think of any situation where he gets something more from betraying us than working with us. About the only king who he could betray us for is Toffee and Toffee is going to slaughter all humans anyway since Mewmans are Humans.

Doom and Bellweather are mere mayors, we have an semi steady allaince with Shego, we have a pretty hard allaince with Olympia, the Zaibatsus are concerning but we can manage and they really don't offer Xanatos anything we can't, GalFed can't really offer anything of note for turning over Jumba and crew that we can't through Jumba's tech tree, Drossel is Drossel, Dorris is everyone's enemy, and while I don't know much about Phobos I doubt he gives a shit about some scientist on earth. Bill would just laugh and turn him into a duck or something.

Besides even the off chance of getting Xanatos to help us find Star is worth it in my opinion.

TL;DR who would he even betray us for? We're more valuable as an ally than pretty much anyone who he isn't already allied with, hates on principle, or is mortal enemies with humanity.
 
Last edited:
[X] Develop Your Center
-[X] Pick up the boxed in screw and use it somewhere in the Inator you're working on.
 
Reader mode
You must login or register to reply here.
Remove ads
Back
Top