Adhoc vote count started by RandomOTP on Apr 2, 2022 at 4:17 PM, finished with 116 posts and 19 votes.


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[X] Action Plan: Big picture items
  • Accept deal, if Kabuto can offer insurance against damage or other contract violations
  • Kabuto:
    • Discuss Dragon Lore, what is the interest there?
    • What's up with Orochimaru dismissing the Great Seal?
    • We're willing to trade more in the future, our needs
      • More access to chakra
      • More time, eg. reduced sleep
      • Better short-term survival, eg. over next year
Orochimaru is right there I don't think that negotiating with Kabuto over his head is the best play. In this version of the plan I think we should ask Oro for some sort of collateral directly.
 
Orochimaru is right there I don't think that negotiating with Kabuto over his head is the best play. In this version of the plan I think we should ask Oro for some sort of collateral directly.
I don't think he's in a talkative mood.
"Pah." Orochimaru waved dismissively, not bothering to look up as he slid a gyoza along the edge of the Dragon claw fragment.
"Yes, yes," Orochimaru said, waving dismissively and not looking away from what he was doing. He had lifted the claw fragment up with a mix of chakra adhesion and repulsion that kept it balanced an inch from his skin. He was turning it back and forth and his forked tongue was extended a foot and a half, tasting the air around the Sageforsaken object.
 
For just taking the deal. We give up the opportunity to find out how Oro reacts if we don't immediately accept his deal. Does he start threatening? This info affects whether we should seek him out in the future for mutually beneficial trade offers.
 
I would like to check in with Mari before finalizing a deal.
I do not know if adding that would be enough for me to vote for a plan though
I would also like to suggest the idea to Mari of asking for help from Nara and Ami for negotiations. But that is a lesser want

Edit: although both of those would be better in a new plan then as modifications to existing ones. Considering how close the deadline is
 
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Adhoc vote count started by RandomOTP on Apr 2, 2022 at 4:35 PM, finished with 123 posts and 19 votes.
 
And also Kabuto seems to be Orochimaru's personal secretary/diplomat/person to talk to when social things are involved.

I don't think he's in a talkative mood

Last time we accidentally offended Orochimaru (back when courting him to join the Goketsu), he Aura'd us into an Out Attack. Maybe we should try to be subtle/polite about it? Invoke an FP to tag Mari's social training?
 
I was trying to think of what Oro could actually threaten us with if so inclined. One idea: he could use aura to force us to give the dragon parts for free. Similar to how we almost spilled clan secrets before.

However, we could then afterwards say that obviously any promises made under aura are invalid. Accuse him of stealing the dragon parts and refuse to bring any other parts from the 7path.

The key question is what is the culture around using unstoppable jonin aura to get people to say what you want? Would Oro actually view us as going back on a promise (dangerous thing)? If not, then the aura idea isn't a viable threat.
 
[X] Action Plan: To Sleep? Perchance not

Don't really like the sleep thing but is better than just punting and not getting positive ev
 
Last time we accidentally offended Orochimaru (back when courting him to join the Goketsu), he Aura'd us into an Out Attack. Maybe we should try to be subtle/polite about it? Invoke an FP to tag Mari's social training?
I think you are overthinking this. If Orochimaru wants to speak, he can just speak, nobody is going to blank him. He has expressed his impatience clearly enough. Kabuto is perfectly capable of not discussing or committing to things Orochimaru would not like discussed or committed to. When we have pissed Orochimaru off, it has been because we keep bugging him.
 
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[X] Action Plan: To Sleep? Perchance not

Don't really like the sleep thing but is better than just punting and not getting positive ev
If immediacy is your primary concern, could I win your vote by changing "We're willing to trade more in the future" to "We're willing to trade more now or in the future"? I'll do it if you say yes.
 
I'm not above begging! Pleeeease vote for my plan? I want Hazou to have what I cannot: No need for sleep. :p
 
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