@MadScientist
Noburi said
""As long as I get to tell him this wasn't my idea," (he quipped, so interpret as strain-faced light-heartedness)
While not being an explicit negation, this response is not a strict vote of confidence either.

That is not enough of an anchor to outweigh, in my opinion, the obvious ramifications even if a medic is a viable solution. Evidently you disagree.
 
No?

That's clearly intended as "You're taking the blame for beating the snot out of him, not me."

Sure.
I agree. That he quipped, rather than some other verb, implies (I interpret) making light in a bad situation. This actually supports a positive anchor that Noburi is more alright with the medic idea than not, so I'm confused why this could be a point of contention.
 
@MMKII You wrote the plan, right? So this should be a vote for the plan, if I'm not mistaken.

[X] MMKII
I think you have to manually vote for the plan by name.


BY THE WAY:


I am now personally confident nothing will go horribly wrong if we advance the story,Hivemind. At worst, ripping bandaids. At best, hopes and dreams. Its not like we deliberately do anything assuming anything about the finals results anyway.

(Dont you want to see that warm fuzzy Hana interaction? )
 
"Not quite," Jiraiya said happily. "I'm saying we've got to go, and Mist won't know what hit it. And for you kids, this is a chance to a) get closure with your families, if that's a thing you want to do, and b) show Mist the true power of those three kids they dismissed as worthless way back when.

"And while I'm wrecking Mist's top clan heads like a Great Fireball Technique going through a stack of paper… you kids are going to rock the Chūnin Exams."

Not sure about the Great Fireball technique, but we qualified for the tournament.
 
Why is everyone voting for a Lore Update when we still have to resolve post-exams and after-party? It's not like there's much planning that needs to go into either? Lore Update means delaying plot progress :(
 
Of course, that requires EJ to agree that we passed.
[X] Lore update

I think the current plan's a good, well, plan; that said, agreed that we're in an awkward situation info-wise and trying to build a long-term plan without said info is sub-optimal.
You have as much information as the characters have. Keiko and Shikamaru are confident that you're in the tournament. Actual scores have not been announced. It has not been stated when the first event will officially end.

The exact OOC information will come once another QM becomes available. There are work-, stress-, and health-related issues interfering with that so it probably won't be tonight.

It is probable that medic service is free
It is. At least for ninja.

I'd prefer to advance the story.

But first - OliWhail writes
"Jiraiya, King of Smugness, Defender of the Smug, wielder of the one True Smug"
Given what I've been hearing it's sounding dubious about whether Oli will have the time to write that update. If he doesn't, I'll add extra XP unto the last update.
 
Not sure about the Great Fireball technique, but we qualified for the tournament.
Meh. We got 1st in the Third Event (and possibly the First), tied for 1st in the Fifth Event, turned the Second Event on its head with our sealing loophole, and got completely fucked in the Fourth Event. Overall...it could have gone a whole lot worse.
 
Meh. We got 1st in the Third Event (and possibly the First), tied for 1st in the Fifth Event, turned the Second Event on its head with our sealing loophole, and got completely fucked in the Fourth Event. Overall...it could have gone a whole lot worse.
It was a pretty good ride overall. We did what we could for the most part.
 
So... Zabuza.
  1. Zabuza is alive, we saw that a few chapters ago.
  2. Zabuza knows about Skywalkers.
    • In The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny, it appears everyone from Mist died or was captured except for Zabuza. It's possible that Mist had someone stealthily observe the battle and report back, but why bother since you're obviously gonna win?
    • As a consequence, Zabuza may be the only Mist-nin who knows about Skywalkers and is not dead or captured.
  3. Zabuza is one of Mist's strongest ninjas and is very popular.
    • With Yagura and Mei gone, Zabuza is quite possibly the strongest Mist-nin left.
    • Given his strength and popularity, it's not impossible that Zabuza could outright take the hat from Ren if he wanted (something involving Ren 'stepping down now that she's no longer needed' or whatnot)
  4. Zabuza hates us. We're filthy traitors that gave him the runaround across the entire Elemental Nations and are now taunting him as prominent Leaf-nin.
So what I'm seeing is that Zabuza could at any time return to Mist, leak the existence of Skywalkers to Ren and give her a decisive tactical advantage in negotiations, make Ren do what he wants or else lose enough support to plunge Mist into civil war, and then become Mizukage once all's said and done. He could in all likelihood singlehandedly ruin the Mist/Leaf alliance and call for our heads if he wanted to.

When Zabuza enters the public again, we need to get on his good side. No ifs ands or buts, we need him to understand that Mist and Leaf need to team up and that we aren't scum of the earth whose very existence is a black mark on his name.

This is gonna be tricky.

edit: Zabuza's not an idiot so he obviously won't do anything suicidal to Mist, but the fact that he could gives him power, and there are a lot of ways he could hurt us in particular without jeopardizing his country.
 
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So... Zabuza.
  1. Zabuza is alive, we saw that a few chapters ago.
  2. Zabuza knows about Skywalkers.
    • In The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny, it appears everyone from Mist died or was captured except for Zabuza. It's possible that Mist had someone stealthily observe the battle and report back, but why bother since you're obviously gonna win?
    • As a consequence, Zabuza may be the only Mist-nin who knows about Skywalkers and is not dead or captured.
  3. Zabuza is one of Mist's strongest ninjas and is very popular.
    • With Yagura and Mei gone, Zabuza is quite possibly the strongest Mist-nin left.
    • Given his strength and popularity, it's not impossible that Zabuza could outright take the hat from Ren if he wanted (something involving Ren 'stepping down now that she's no longer needed' or whatnot)
  4. Zabuza hates us. We're filthy traitors that gave him the runaround across the entire Elemental Nations and are now taunting him as prominent Leaf-nin.
So what I'm seeing is that Zabuza could at any time return to Mist, leak the existence of Skywalkers to Ren and give her a decisive tactical advantage in negotiations, make Ren do what he wants or else lose enough support to plunge Mist into civil war, and then become Mizukage once all's said and done. He could in all likelihood singlehandedly ruin the Mist/Leaf alliance and call for our heads if he wanted to.

When Zabuza enters the public again, we need to get on his good side. No ifs ands or buts, we need him to understand that Mist and Leaf need to team up and that we aren't scum of the earth whose very existence is a black mark on his name.

This is gonna be tricky.

edit: Zabua's not an idiot so he obviously won't do anything suicidal to Mist, but the fact that he could gives him power, and there are a lot of ways he could hurt us in particular without jeopardizing his country.

Zabuza probably also very, very much does not want the hat, because that comes with doing a fuck ton of desk work, and guess what annoying person would end up being his secretary?
 
Why is everyone voting for a Lore Update when we still have to resolve post-exams and after-party? It's not like there's much planning that needs to go into either? Lore Update means delaying plot progress :(
???

But you also didnt vote for the plan?

???
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Enjou on Aug 21, 2018 at 8:41 PM, finished with 799 posts and 21 votes.
  • 51

    [X] Lore update
    [X][WH] Took all the WH (54 total) and kept them for Uplift
    [X] Loose Ends
    [X][Mist] Go
    [X] Do not give away any word-halves unless explicitly instructed by Noburi/Keiko and Jiraiya
    [X][WH] Took all the WH, except those of Team Downfall and Kurenai, and kept them for Uplift
    [X][Mist] Stay
    [X] Interlude: Paths of the Elemental Nations: Mizukage on Chūnin Exam Result
    [X] Interlude: Mist compares actual exam scores to their previous expectations
    [x] Interlude: People's reactions to Team Uplift's Exams performance. Choose from: The Kages, Team Downfall, Zabuza, our former clans.
    [x] Interlude: Revenant, Part 2
    [x] Interlude: Zabuza reacts to our performance in the Exams
    [X] Took all but Team Downfall and Team Kurenai's WH, offering R1 Team up to 2 of them for each that wants one, keeping the rest for Uplift.
    [X] Took all but Team Downfall and Team Kurenai's WH and kept the rest for Uplift
    [x] Wait for @eaglejarl to explain what's now going on before voting for anything.
    [X][WH] Took all the WH, except those of Team Downfall, and kept them for Uplift
    [X] (lethal) Yes
    [X][WH] Took all the WH (54 total) and kept them
    [x] (mist) Stay
    [X][WH] Took all the WH and gave some of them to your teammates on Red Team One
    "[X] (lethal) Yes" is to "[X] Armageddon Initiative" like "Kill it with fire!" is to "NUKE IT FROM ORBIT".
    "[X] Armageddon Initiative" is a meme of similar usage, but different caliber.
    [X] Do not give away any word-halves unless explicitly instructed by Jiraiya or Noburi AND Keiko
    [X] Interlude: the Pangolins react to the world halves
    [X] Interlude: team Downfall reacts to our performance in the Exams
    [X] Interlude: the Kages react to our performance in the Exams
    [X] If we ever find a telescope merchant, kill them.
    [X] Interlude: Ren's presumed All According to Keikaku
 
Current non Lore update plan


Word Count: 413
[X] Loose Ends

General:
  • Every section in crimson requires Jiraiya's approval in some form.
    • He can make suggestions and criticism of his own.
    • Talk in Summoning Realm only:ASAP
    • Tell Keiko with handsignals.
  • Spend ~2 days in Mist, then go back to Leaf.
  • Ask Jiraiya for someone to shadow us while we're in the village
    • Failing that, do not get separated
  • Strict OPSEC is to be maintained.

Naruto:


  • This is a long shot
    • Check plausibility with Keiko beforehand
  • Do you have a blood sample?
  • Can you sign a summon contract for him in absentia?
    • Have toads reverse summon him immediately after signing.
    • This might buy some time.
  • Hazou et all treat this portion with the highest level of paranoia and OPSEC.
Yakuza:
  • We should thank the Oyabun for his assistance so far.
  • Try to meet a lieutenant or leave a message for Oyabun failing that.
    • This is a relationship we want to continue.
    • Consider getting another present a la Pangolin carving.
  • Ask him politely to have his agents spread rumours of our flawless victory in Event 5 throughout bars and taverns in Water.
    • Intent: Pre-empt the nations rumour mil to our advantage. Build up our general fame and notoriety. Lay the foundation for further such manipulations.
    • Polite observation: It would be beneficial to both of us in this relationship if we were ninja of great repute.
    • Pay them with a portion of the (unused) explosives we received from Kagome.
  • Jiraiya helps us word everything correctly.
Families:
  • Suggest everyone spend some time with families if they wish to.
    • Don't press if they do not wish to.
      • Hazou treats this with the sensitivity it deserves.
        • They are as sensitive to this as he is to people insulting his mother.
        • Be extra sensitive to Keiko.
  • Hazou spends time with Hana
    • Talk about everything! Opsec sanitized.
    • Talks about and asks for honest advice on Akane thing
  • Start to assemble Kagome's birthday gift
    • A book of all the things he's taught us.
    • Suggest to Jiraiya: Maybe turn some of the basement space into a fancy sealing lab too?
    • Bring back Mist cuisine (as much as we can) + cookbooks?
    • Some nice and exotic wood for carving?
Misc:
  • Apologize to Nakano for the rough treatment
    • How can we make it up to him?
    • Invite him to next board game night
  • Team Uplift has a short conversation with Team Downfall
    • Do in barracks with friendlies on overwatch
    • No hard feelings?
    • Try to part amicably.
      • Noburi keeps wisecracks to a minimum.

I'll take suggestions that can be made to improve.
 
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