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Onmur said:
Homura: "There's a tracker in my phone?"

Mrs. Akemi: "Also on your shoes."

Homura: "..."

Mrs. Akemi: "And in your hair. And in your arm. And one besides your heart, since, you know, the doctors were doing surgery and I figured 'why not?'"

Homura: [DAWNING REALIZATION]

Sabrina: "God dayum, Homu, I knew you had to get that from someone."

Mr. Akemi: "Sorry I'm late, everyone."

Mr. Akemi: *Puffs cigar*

Mr. Akemi: "Good afternoon, daughter, I'm sorry for having been absent in your life, have a belated birthday gift to make up for it."

Mr. Akemi: *Hands Homura a gun*

Homura: *Blinks*

Homura: *Does a full check up on the gun*

Homura: *Balefully stares at new dad*

Homura: "Do I look so cheap as to be bougth with a Beretta M9?"

Mr. Akemi: *Puffs cigar* "Oh, ho-ho, well, as a special many-birthdays gift, I could have a Gibbs-Farquharson shipped right away."

Sabrina: *Opens mouth*

Homura: *Tsks* "I prefer automatic guns. I wouldn't say no to a typewriter."

Sabrina: *Raises finger*

Mr. Akemi: "My girl knows what guns she likes. We meet for the first time in years and I'm already so proud. You wouldn't say no to a Smith & Wesson, would you?"

Homura: "..."


Homura: *Smiles*

Sabrina: *Gapes*

Homura: "Where are my manners?" *Hairflips* "Please come in and feel at home, mom, dad."

*The Akemis enter Homura's apartment*

Sabrina: *Gapes*

Mrs. Akemi: "Are you coming in?"

Sabrina: *Gapes*

Homura: "It's just the brain damage. Let her be. She'll be fine in a moment."

Mrs. Akemi: "Oh, dear..." *Closes door*

Sabrina: *Gapes*
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Sabrina: "I... I could make you a Smith & Wesson, you know that, right, Homura?"
 
DB_Explorer said:
..... ..... well she's just so happy about it! It like Oriko, she's evil.. but she's cute so its all cool : P
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I'll note Oriko's only really cute when she's with Kirika.

So, only most of the time.

Now I want to see Mrs. Akemi mediating a discussion between Homura and Oriko.


Mrs. Akemi: "Well girls, now that we know each other a little bit, could I ask, what problems you've got with each other? Homura, you go first."

Homura: "She killed Madoka."

Mrs. Akemi: "... Allow me to clarify this, but Madoka is, currently, alive?"

Homura: *Nods*

Mrs. Akemi: "Just making sure. Oriko, your turn. What's your problem with Homura?"

Oriko: "I tried to explode and set her and her friends on fire. And partially succeeded."

Mrs. Akemi: "... You... tried to explode my daughter, and her friends. And burn them. And partially managed."

Oriko: *Sniffs* "They didn't give me a chance to really get going."

Mrs. Akemi: "..."

Mr. Akemi: "Daughter, do you want to put a bullet on her head, or should I?"

Homura: "Way ahead of you."

Mrs. Akemi: "Dear, not helping... what do you mean 'way ahead of you', Homura?"

Oriko: *Crosses arms and huffs, offended*

Homura: "I... didn't actually shoot her brain, thankfully."

Mrs. Akemi: *Sighs in relief*

Homura: "That would've made it take longer to put her back together. But... I did decapitate her, does that count?"

Mrs. Akemi: "Eee?"

Mr. Akemi: "It counts only if it stops them from ever hurting you or any of yours again."

Homura: *Nods and pulls out a revolver*

*DOOR SLAMS OPEN AND SABRINA RUNS IN AND TACKLEHUGS HOMURA*

Sabrina: "Homura no!"

Homura: "But-"

Sabrina: "No!"

Homura: "..."

Mrs. Akemi: "What's your relationship with my daughter, by the way?"

Sabrina: "Well, that's a funny story I could tell you. It all started before the Big Bang..."

Oriko: *Quietly takes her leave, ignoring Mr. Akemi's glare on her back*

Sabrina: "... naked space hugs..."

Homura: *Mortified*
 
Onmur said:
To top it all off,

Mrs. Akemi: "Are you one of Homura's friends? I'm so glad-"

Sabrina: "I'm your granddaughter!"

Mrs. Akemi: "... Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee..."

Sabrina: "So I got that from you, grandma!"

Mrs. Akemi: *Turns to Homura* "You're in so much trouble." *Faints*
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Well, she's invariably gonna ask who the in-laws are... which then means she meets them.
 
But seriously, a lot of these girls need a stable, warm and caring mother figure in their life. I'm half-tempted to write an omake of Nagisa telling her big sis that there's a new student in her class who's also a foreigner and her name's Kobayashi Kanna. Things escalate from there, but it ends with maids, beer and warm family fuzzies somehow.
 
Laurelin said:
But seriously, a lot of these girls need a stable, warm and caring mother figure in their life. I'm half-tempted to write an omake of Nagisa telling her big sis that there's a new student in her class who's also a foreigner and her name's Kobayashi Kanna. Things escalate from there, but it ends with maids, beer and warm family fuzzies somehow.
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QB: "Hello! Would you like to make a con-"
Kanna: *NOM*
 
Laurelin said:
But seriously, a lot of these girls need a stable, warm and caring mother figure in their life. I'm half-tempted to write an omake of Nagisa telling her big sis that there's a new student in her class who's also a foreigner and her name's Kobayashi Kanna. Things escalate from there, but it ends with maids, beer and warm family fuzzies somehow.
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Yuma does have grandparents who could take her in.

Not bringing it up with Kyouko is one of those decisions I'm uncertain about.
 
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The Narrator said:
It drives me kind of nuts that Kyouko and Yuma are still homeless when we have a spare bedroom.
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That's not so easy. Not like Kyouko would take it. :/

(Getting Yuma's grandparents to take her in also isn't that easy for a couple of reasons, either.)

At least Kyouko and Yuma do sleep comfortably enough, even if they have to break into hotels to do it.
 
Dragontrapper said:
QB: "Hello! Would you like to make a con-"
Kanna: *NOM*
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You read my mind, lol. I wonder if Kyuubi tastes as bland as he looks?

Onmur said:
That's not so easy. Not like Kyouko would take it. :/

At least Kyouko and Yuma do sleep comfortably enough, even if they have to break into hotels to do it.
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Well, I believe one of our goals is to reconcile Mami and tsundere-sis, yes? So, maybe one day...

As for the hotels, isn't Kyouko paying for them now with the money Sabrina pays her?
 
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Point Insertion pt. 24
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    • "You're right. I don't want this fight, and neither do you," you say, exhaling slowly. One of you is overconfident. You're just not sure which. "So let's set that aside, and agree that I'm not trying to provoke you into a fight - and that you're not trying to provoke me into a fight."

    "Mm," Rionna says, non-committal.

    "But," you say. "I'm starting to think I want to help you with this. Why can't I?"

    You don't like her, and you still don't trust her. You're not sure you ever will, given what she's said and done - and what she's said she's done. You're nowhere near happy with her about her lobotomized slaves. She's done morally reprehensible things, and you're not going to put up with it.

    But you're almost certain... no. Something's up. And you want to find out what it is, before making a decision. You don't have to fight her. You can talk. You can talk as long as you like, and you have Mami and Homura and Sayaka moments away if things should come to a fight.

    Mami right outside your privacy bubble, leaning against your Grief with her eyes closed.

    You don't want to fight her, but you don't want to let her go, either. Anything she does after this is on you.

    She keeps insisting on it not being a fight. Why?

    There is something you're not privy to. You're pretty sure you hit a nerve - Edinburgh. You got a reaction out of her from that, and she went back to her... hostility display.

    She came here wanting... what? She took one look at you and decided you didn't have whatever it was she wanted, or needed. And she commented that she wouldn't take your Soul against your will.

    Is she provoking you, so she could claim self-defense?

    Perhaps, but you doubt it. She doesn't seem the type.

    What does she want? When you asked her... she said she wants what everyone wants. And something that everyone's tried. Which certainly seems to suggest Grief cleansing, but she showed little interest in your Clear Seed. That's... confusing.

    "D'you wanna give me your Soul?" Rionna says, with a rough snort. "No? You can't help me."

    "Is that my only option?" you ask, raising your eyebrows. "Not to put too fine a point on it, my power has turned out to be a lot more versatile than my Wish would imply. I don't know what your problem is, but you don't know what I can do, either."

    Something flickers across Rionna's face. Discomfort, maybe.

    "Yes," she says.

    You lean forward a little, drumming your fingers against your thigh and propping your chin with your other hand as you watch her.

    She studies you in turn, irritated and sour. And yet she hasn't left your privacy bubble yet. Of course, it could be that she simply assumes she can't until you dismiss it, which wouldn't be an unreasonable assumption for someone who hasn't experienced it before. But then, neither has she even asked.

    So, definitely something in Edinburgh itself - something she can't or isn't willing to move. And yet...

    She displayed little interest in the Clear Seed, not none. She clearly doesn't have a problem sustaining herself, considering she's managed it for this long. Holding a city by herself would do that. Something in the city that she can't or won't move, coupled with Oriko's warning about her sister.

    You can't help but wonder if her sister might have turned into a Witch. And she holds Edinburgh, chasing away outside magical girls and building herself a fearsome reputation - because she refuses to let her sister's Witch be killed. It would certainly fit the paranoia, that she'd spend Grief defending her city even when she's not there.

    "You know, I wouldn't put any preconditions on trying to help," you say, stomach flipping. It's not quite a lie. You don't like her or what she's done at all, but... Everything can be fixed. You have to at least try.

    "Liar," Rionna says, completely without rancor. "Y' despise what I've done, and you want me to stop."

    [] Answer her accusation
    [] Bring up de-Witching
    [] Ask her what she's talking about
    [] Write-in (word count limit: 150 words)

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    Just an FYI, I made a post about Soul Gem capacities here.
     
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    • Something something "I do want you to stop, but I also want to help. Both you in specific, and everyone in general. It's why I made my wish; to improve girls' lives everywhere and to make the world a better place."?
     
    [X]Has she tasted witch despair firsthand? Nobody deserves it. There's a lot you can excuse in the name of keeping a gem clean if someone doesn't bother Mitakihara, so long as they stop when you give them the opportunity. As far as you're concerned, you haven't given her that opportunity yet.
     
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    You can't help but wonder if her sister might have turned into a Witch. And she holds Edinburgh, chasing away outside magical girls and building herself a fearsome reputation - because she refuses to let her sister's Witch be killed. It would certainly fit the paranoia, that she'd spend Grief defending her city even when she's not there.
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    Sounds like it would be easier to keep the sister as a seed.
     
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    [] "Don't you?"

    It's been a while, so to allay confusion, we didn't just say we wouldn't put conditions on Riona meaning at all, rather, that we expect her to do better than this if we do manage to help her:

    [X] You're starting to think you want to help her with this. Why can't you?
    [X] Incorporate the following lines into conversation as reasonable. If no line makes sense in a situation, break to voting:
    -[X] You wouldn't put any preconditions on anything. If you succeed at helping her, thenyou'd expect her to stop doing harm that isn't necessary.
    -[X] Our morality doesn't preclude working with people who have done horrible things, and it would be stupid to not recognize that refusals to de-escalate are often based on valid premises.
    -[X] If she displays concern about knowledge of what she's dealing with getting out, cut to voting.
    -[X] If she tries to assert that we don't have the capability to help her, refute her. In the end, if we couldn't help her, she'd've had no interest in the clear seed.
    -[X] If at any point it's reasonable, see if you can slip in that you're interested in dewitching. But, don't try to stretch things to achieve that.
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    Though, I would guess for the time we would be helping her, we would still demand she stops killing people.

    I guess that's what left to bring up about this vote: A deal that if we manage to help her, she stops her shit, and also to bring up de-Witching.
     
    [ ] I do want to help, and I do want you to stop, but one isn't necessary a condition fot the other. For me the best way to do that is helping you in a way continuing isn't necessary but if even after that you choose to continue...

    Feels too judgamental maybe, but it's the best answer I can think now.
     
    [x]I meant it when I said no preconditions. Postconditions are another story. You would only have to pay my price if I can solve whatever problem it is you're having in Edinburgh.
    -[x]If she asks why: Because you've tasted witch despair firsthand. Nobody deserves it. No matter how much it disgusts you, you can excuse a lot in the name of keeping a gem clean so long as it stays out of Mitakihara and they stop when you give them the opportunity. As far as you're concerned, you haven't given her that opportunity yet.
     
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    I suppose we need to push on what it is she's defending in edinburgh? Cus well, at this point she's not terribly willing to stop doing evil shit, but she's also not starting a fight. Either pushing starts a fight, or she lets us do something that'd make her willing to stop enslaving the souls of the damned.

    Also, just a little paranoia, let's very carefully avoid saying she can have our soul under any circumstances okay? She may have a "contract" sort of power that lets verbal agreements give away your soul or something.

    Also er, the other big minimum is "no more enslaving people" since that's kinda horrible and should stop.
     
    [] I do, and that's exactly why I should help. I don't know you, and I don't know your circumstances, but if you were the kind of person I would fight on the spot, you wouldn't have come here.
    -[] So I'm not going to give you any conditions for my help, because it's my hope that helping you will erase the need for me to give you those conditions.



    Rionnanana has been extremely defensive about the things she's done. She's always saying things along the lines of 'you can't judge me, you don't know my circumstances'. Which implies to me that she herself feels pretty unhappy with the things she's had to do, but feels that she has had no choice but to do them anyway.

    It also implies that she's been judged by people before, and many of them immediately tried to throw down in a crusade of justice. So some of those good people she's dragged kicking and screaming into servitude? Might be Sayaka-types who only see the surface (like Sayaka vs. Homura) and assume she's an evil monster when she's really just doing what she has to to survive.
     
    [ ] I do want you to stop. But I won't make it a precondition of my help. If I refused to help any magical girl who did something awful because the system we're in forced them to... there wouldn't be very many girls that I could help left.
    -[ ] Nobody sets out to be the villain of their own story, after all. If I can help you, and if what you've done is no longer necessary afterwards, and you still won't stop... then it'll be a different story.

    Something like this, I think.
     
    I think saying something like "I don't despise the soul taking in and itself, those souls never getting the chance to redeem themselves is the upsetting part", would be good. Like make it clear why so Riona better understands Sabrina's reasoning. I still don't think Riona would agree on anything more than stopping from collecting more souls, and Sabrina should probably verbally acknowledge that.

    Still, back to the souls redeeming thing, Hell type afterlives only have three outcomes: You eventually get used to the torture and/or finally repent, or you get 'refreshed' so the torture never ends. So though this is uncomfortable for me since I want Riona safe, being a Shade is worse given the apparent lack of progress. Thus being the idealistic heroine she is, of course Sabrina wants Riona to stop. If you simply know what to do, no piece of 'trash' is beyond repair- Be that a chair or a person.
     
    Oh, this is way simpler than I'd expected. And went way better than I expected.

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    "D'you wanna give me your Soul?" Rionna says, with a rough snort. "No? You can't help me."

    "Is that my only option?" you ask, raising your eyebrows. "Not to put too fine a point on it, my power has turned out to be a lot more versatile than my Wish would imply. I don't know what your problem is, but you don't know what I can do, either."

    Something flickers across Rionna's face. Discomfort, maybe.

    "Yes," she says.
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    Double potential meanings here. Potentially this could be read as "I'm not allowing anyone else to come anywhere near the thing I'm protecting."

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    Let me reiterate the biggest point in this post, here: this girl is willing to kill someone who has actual, unprecedented grief-cleansing powers and can already produce clear seeds because that person
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    Kaizuki said:
    What she has said, here... it amounts to "better the entire world burn than I let you make me do this thing I don't want to do."
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    Those two quotes are from an early essay, where I was still arguing we'd need to kill this girl. But, they're about to be very relevant.

    Draft one:

    [X] She doesn't get it, does she?
    -[X] You don't need preconditions. You'll help her, because you'll make the world a slightly better place by doing so. And because you'll be able to get her to agree to things afterwards.
    --[X] When people have something they'd watch the world burn before endangering, you don't open negotiations by demanding they endanger it. You open negotiations by ensuring its safety.

    Left unsaid, of course, is that if we help her and the fallout doesn't result in us getting all the must-haves on our checklist, we'll kill her then.

    But if we're correct that Rionna's sister is the issue in question, then bringing her sister back may very simply accomplish everything we want, depending on what kind of person her sister is. Or, at the least it will change her priorities in some manner. How? Who knows? But, as I think everyone here will agree, it's worth a shot. We must try, not just for this girl who has done such terrible things, but, presumably, for her sister who has not.

    Nothing is guaranteed here. But, I do think we are on the right track.
     
    [] People don't do horrible things for no reason. When someone has a strong reason to do something, force is almost always less effective than addressing the underlying problem.
    [] So you're trying to figure out what her underlying problem is, because so far the only precondition you have ever demanded is that people use what you give them to do good.
    [] Does she need help with de-witching research? Does she have a shade that needs to be reinstantiated instead of released? Something else?
     
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