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We are incredably unlikely to wipe out, or through our actions allow them to be wiped out, Clan Mors in a single turn of actions.
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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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NeonLights
Formerly Reliable_2IC
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- In shambles
This turn won't be putting the nail in the coffin, and we can consistently bleed all three evenly over time.
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- Germany
I disagree. If the Skaven consider the Spiders a signicant enough threat that they attack with some serious firepower, then the Spiders are toast. A bit of sabotage won't be enough that point. Well, or the Spiders retreat into the protection of the Dwarves, in which case the sabotage is unnecessary.
The best hope for the Spiders is that the Skaven don't even care much about the loss of a few lowly clan members.
Indeed. We should weaken Clan Mors this term to help the spiders bed in, then hit Skyre over the next couple of turns, then Moulder after that, etc.
MortichFrittle4
Verified Speculator
[X] Plan Citadel Focus
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- Manchester, UK
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I've been looking through the plans, and I'm confused as to why no-one is going for folding in the Undumgi. It would effectively be an extra action a turn from now on, albeit one taken through an organisation akin to the mage actions.
Are folks holding out for a better second organisation?
Are folks holding out for a better second organisation?
The dedicated EIC action is different to the normal running an organisation option, as I understand it (she's isn't in charge of it, after all, so can't direct, only influence), so it would take an extra one of Mathilde's actions to take over a new organisation.
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SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
iirc we'd end having another permanently locked action like the EIC it doesn't fold in with the EIC either.
It would give us extra economic actions in exchange for stuff like research and spell-learning which was why we took the court wizard position to begin with.
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- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
It's not our job, and we already have a massive action crunch.
@Quest here's the intent behind the "poke Mors" from the author of plan, something you were arguing is just a scouting action.
CuttleFish2.0
Friendly neighborhood cuttlefish
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- Seattle, Washington.
Folding in the Undumgi would cost us 1/2 of an action, because 2 costs 1 action. Unless we expect to soon take such hold over another organization (for these purposes the EIC does not count) we wouldn't actually be gaining anything, also it's not really part of our logical remit so there's little synergy for what we currently have to do which would make it another action sink taking away from things we want to do.
The dwarves are already at war with the Skaven. Like, already engaged with dwarf adventurers and raiding parties. The lower defenses of the Citadel were occupied by Skaven, and they're now in dwarf hands.
It is rather unlikely that a stealth mission would aggro them any more than that, especially when Gold Magic sabotage is hilariously subtle AND we've had hints that this isn't Johan's first rodeo. He's snuck off a bunch of times as it is.
"Your weapon critically fails when you use it later" is basically Skaven weaponry 101.
And we have Word of GM confirmation that such an effort would prioritize:
1) Stealth/Survival.
2) Acquisition of Skaven warptech samples
3) Opportunistic theft and sabotage given the prior priorities.
There is a nonzero chance of things going wrong ,but thats why we put the Gambler bonus on it to cover for failures, OR to find opportunities worth the risk.
Yes, theft and sabotage are not high priorities, but we've seen how Mathilde engages in Scouting missions.
They're going to happen as long as she's confident she can get away with it
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Oh, I thought it would fold in with the EIC, resulting in the one locked action now getting two sub-actions rather than only one...
Quest
The Great One
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- Everywhere
The intent is investigation, not sabotage. Math will only do damage if she needs to while grabbing some valuable tech.
When we're already committed to an economic action indefinitely already, which means we're already likely to spend as much on economic actions as we do on Mathilde's own research.
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The Great One
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- Everywhere
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- Singapore
@veekie Given that the big selling point of your plan is the synergies, will you be clarifying the wording of your plan to highlight those synergies?
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SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
@veekie
I suggest you make it more clear what the goal is with regards to the skaven action. It's not a change in intent with your plan so it wouldn't need a new version, just clarification.
Probably a bit late in the vote cycle for this but haven't managed to find time to comment before this.
@BoneyM Does our extensive library on Morr extend to practices for mass funerals that we will be sharing with Gunnar?
I'm slightly concerned that the Liber Mortis contains secrets no priest/disciple of Morr should ever put to paper means what we'd be sharing would be easily identified by a morrite priest (when the inevitably arrive) as something Mathilde definitely shouldn't have been told by anyone.
It feels safe but I wanted to be sure.
@BoneyM Does our extensive library on Morr extend to practices for mass funerals that we will be sharing with Gunnar?
I'm slightly concerned that the Liber Mortis contains secrets no priest/disciple of Morr should ever put to paper means what we'd be sharing would be easily identified by a morrite priest (when the inevitably arrive) as something Mathilde definitely shouldn't have been told by anyone.
It feels safe but I wanted to be sure.
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- Austria
Yeah, so basically, I, personally, do not buy the very same action being at the same time "cause havoc within Skaven" and "steal their shit with Johann", @veekie . And only the former can actually help Spiderfriends, unless we luck out and steal something rare/irreplaceable, like Doomwheel or whatnot.
(how would we even lug it around? Doubt Substance can cover the entire thing)
edit: and former may or may not provoke Mors into striking back, and I'd rather not do that while Dwarfs are not fully established just yet. We'll go make some hell once dwarfs tell us they are ready to stab all Skaven that may come rushing in response.
(how would we even lug it around? Doubt Substance can cover the entire thing)
edit: and former may or may not provoke Mors into striking back, and I'd rather not do that while Dwarfs are not fully established just yet. We'll go make some hell once dwarfs tell us they are ready to stab all Skaven that may come rushing in response.
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Kornet
Quite possibly a sloth abomination
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- Mother Russia
I think we could substitute the second organization for a bonus journeymanling. But, regardless of my love for all things undumgi, even I have to concede that they just don't contribute to our current duties and interests that much and should be left for other councilors to use.
Eh, Spiders did mention that the main problem are ratling guns and warpfire throwers. Ranged attacks and flame attacks they have trouble with.
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Go for it. I figure clearing all the basic spider research options is how we get thorough.