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The discussion was closed by Boney answering the question, your little foray into purposefully ignoring what I was saying to fight a strawman is moot and pointless.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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- Dancing on wires!
So upside much cheaper than the Final Transmutation, with final transmutation retaining the upside of affecting an entire entity? Neat and fucking terrifying.
NexusEye
Aspiring God
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- She/Her
Isn't Final Transmutation a ranged spell while Sylphic Wrath is melee?
- Location
- being near locations is my passion.
Thinking about Grete's tithe, as a political leader a lot of the income from the area can be directed by her as 'administrator' rather than being paid to her directly and thus subject to being tithed.
That skull throne room? Her crown and nice clothing and the extra delicious food she needs to get taller? They're all necessary government expenses for her job role and are bought by the government[1], the money for that stuff never reaches Gretel's accounts - not even just for a wee rest - and as such she isn't tithed on it.
[1] Do not pay attention to the tall Amethyst Wizard with a crown behind the curtain, they are merely a minor government functionary.
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That skull throne room? Her crown and nice clothing and the extra delicious food she needs to get taller? They're all necessary government expenses for her job role and are bought by the government[1], the money for that stuff never reaches Gretel's accounts - not even just for a wee rest - and as such she isn't tithed on it.
[1] Do not pay attention to the tall Amethyst Wizard with a crown behind the curtain, they are merely a minor government functionary.
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While I do agree with this, I think that if Gretel were having any issue at all here, Barak Var would just quietly cover whatever would be the costs.
Gretel, somehow: "Pan's new apprentice Sophia is embezzling. I don't know how she is, but that is something you should look into."
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- Finland
I shall add my two bits to the pile of praise for the throneroom of doom.
While it probably will not be in the scope of the quest, i would love if that was to become a tradition where eventually border princess end up with a one stable city that acts as a necropolis for the region with a non hereditary monarch who is always an amethyst wizard to act as a safekeeper.
While it probably will not be in the scope of the quest, i would love if that was to become a tradition where eventually border princess end up with a one stable city that acts as a necropolis for the region with a non hereditary monarch who is always an amethyst wizard to act as a safekeeper.
Personally I think Gretel will keep to a somewhat accurate range on her tithe because she still wants to interact favourably with the empire and its allies. Your only able to store your cattle in averland if no one in the empire wants a piece of you for withholding tithe.
Also as much as k8p is a dwarf hold, it's probably the hold closest to the empire of all of them. (Closest not in the distance sense) so "cheating" the empire out of it's gold is a bad look for Gretel with belegar.
Also as much as k8p is a dwarf hold, it's probably the hold closest to the empire of all of them. (Closest not in the distance sense) so "cheating" the empire out of it's gold is a bad look for Gretel with belegar.
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- Utrecht
Just recieve (or pay yourself) a Salary for Gretel the Amethyst wizard and have a separate budget for your fief.
Pay your tithe based on your salary, and don't pay any tax on the fief.
Pretty much exactly what Mathilde did.
Pay your tithe based on your salary, and don't pay any tax on the fief.
Pretty much exactly what Mathilde did.
Nah, she's dependent on Averland for the cattle and I bet the Colleges wouldn't want anyone in the Empire to even consider that they could cut a deal with wizards who are on the outs with the main institution. They'd probably kick her ASAP and publicly enough that nobody else thinks to cheat them.
Unless she's been pulling at least K8P expedition Mathilde level stuff (if not actually post big K8P battle stuff) I'd doubt it.
One thing Mathilde appreciates in regards to the Dawi - and the Dawi appreciate in regards to Mathilde - is that they take their obligations very seriously.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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- Dancing on wires!
Well they've made it somewhat ranged but yeah that's another part
The Phoenixian
The Glacier Witch
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- My own little world
[X] [LIBRARY] Back-fill: Social sciences
[X] [COLLEGE] A translation of the Indic Aqshy books obtained from the Elementalists (1 CF)
I quite like that translation option. In addition to the +1 it's a neat little way to put the perspective of another culture in the Collegiate eye. Even if its kind of the basics of another culture the fact that it is +1 sounds like it will be as worthwhile to the colleges as it will be to Mathilde.
The first being that proximity toThe Chaos Wastes Nehekara not being a strict delineation but a sliding scale. 
The second having a punchline that you can drawn a direct line from Numas in Nehekara to Sylvania that covers the Howling River.
[X] [COLLEGE] A translation of the Indic Aqshy books obtained from the Elementalists (1 CF)
I quite like that translation option. In addition to the +1 it's a neat little way to put the perspective of another culture in the Collegiate eye. Even if its kind of the basics of another culture the fact that it is +1 sounds like it will be as worthwhile to the colleges as it will be to Mathilde.
I feel like there's two jokes here.
The first being that proximity to
The second having a punchline that you can drawn a direct line from Numas in Nehekara to Sylvania that covers the Howling River.
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- being near locations is my passion.
I'm talking about the slim possibility of Gretel running into money problems while doing this project that benefits and is supported by Barak Var.
Barak Var would help with those problems, if it can do so quietly. I'm not talking about favours or obligations or principals, but Barak Var's interests in the region.
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[X] [LIBRARY] Library of Mournings: Linguistics, Ladrielle
[X] [COLLEGE] A translation of the Indic Aqshy books obtained from the Elementalists (1 CF)
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- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
Wait, she actually is that? I didn't remember it being confirmed that she was the head honcho in that endeavor, as opposed to the captain of the mercenaries she joined, or someone from Ulrikadrin.
And there she is. TIL the word Doyenne. Nice title for an ad hoc dictatorship legally ruled by a peasant-born by lieu of her skill, with the full backing of multiple feudal monarchies, but without a noble title. "Princessipality", however, hurts my soul.
Isn't it the other way around, with Barak Varr being the silent partner? That said, I don't actually know what the appropriate one word description for a partner is that denotes that it's the other one who is partner.
Ooh. What style of crown is it?
Mathilde's attraction type is shining through and she seems to be typical minding. Most Human visitors Border Princes or otherwise, would likely only feel intimidated.
At first read I thought that she was being visited by all the local Vampires. That sure gave me a holup moment.
Huh. I didn't know they cared. Wasn't their ascetism mostly a virtue thing as opposed to the control method of the Greys?
Oh. Oh wow. A rack of skulls in the throne room, not taken from her enemies, but willingly yielded by her subjects and allies. That's a whole new level of badass.
Isn't that... a massive amount of land? Just how much of the Border Prince region does she control? Or at least have de facto grazing rights to?
What's Iron Rock again?
Also, did Ulrikadrin not end up getting involved in Mad Dog Pass in a major way?
Another word I didn't know. Nice!
I assume that her Princessipality (sic) has more fortifications than the wooden palisades and towers described at he capital then?
Mmm yes, seeing our complaints validated in story sure feels nice and fuzzy.
So many years of study and they haven't yet unilaterally decided on a "correct" terminology? What weird breed of scholars are these?
Wait wait wait, what? The Gold Order knows how the Pit of Shades works? I thought its connection to Liminal Realms and the general nature of Ulgu as a membrane of separation was a Grey Order secret.
I'm a bit confused by this section. On the one hand, why would an anti-Skryre protection not be worth studying in a world where Pestilens is still well and active? They aren't all everywhere, are they? And on the other hand, why can't the Gold Order test their masks on various noxious gases they themselves can produce?
More generally I had a hard time remembering what the various Skaven items were that these studies are based on. Specifically the whip, the sword, and any not yet sufficiently studied items I am forgetting. An item I remember was the one that produces self-reproducing foodstuff that makes goats jittery.
What even is the point of censoring the name of an M.P. when there's definitely only one of those at a time who could be going under the alias "Gold"?
Huh. Who is Christa Feldmann and what did she do to get last rung credit? Prototype weapons testing in the field during her Journey?
Also, I think this chapter is the first time we got a first name for M.P. Feldmann. In all other chapters he was just plain Feldmann.
Typo:
drive
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
I still thought that up until your comment. I was like, "Oh wow, those are vampire skulls?"
Old Dwarf fort that's close to Barak Varr.
Ruled by the Iron Claw Orcs, named for Gorbad Ironclaw, who started off in Iron Rock.
Gorbad Ironclaw being the Orc Warboss that all Orcs aspire to be, who devastated Solland to the point that it was annexed by Wissenland.
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- Canada
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Is this a project the thread's been planning?
Pretty much, the orb flex is the idea of rolling up to the colleges with newly made orbs while having the vitae book ready to show them how we did it and what funky things else we can do with it.
Drove is correct
noun a large group of animals, especially cattle or sheep, moving from one place to another
verb to move farm animals on foot from one place to another
Says mainly UK though probably Australia too
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Oh, I thought it was referring to a commission idea for all that favour.
My guess:
They have decided on a correct terminology.
The problem is that they each decided on a different one.
Very on brand or scholars imo.
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- Actually pretty lost
Me too, I just thought maybe the Border Princes had some vampires the same way that one guy with all the books in Altdorf is still around - a lesser evil not making a nuisance of themselves.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
I literally thought it was like,
Vampires- Huh, this death wizard seems very Dark Lady like, I should feel her out about cooperating against the foolish living and joining us in glorious unlife.
Gretel- Kills them.
And this like, repeatedly happening.
The kind the wearer doesn't let you look too closely at, because if it was actually made of what it looked made of it'd be worth more than the territory.
They believe that attachment to material pleasures makes one less suited to wielding the Wind of Death.
It's the approximate measure of the territory between the Howling and Skull River according to the canon map. The Border Princes is big.
The main stronghold of the Ironclaw Orcs.
No, she's saying that the Dwarven fortifications and Karaks that border her land is what's making it all possible.
No, they don't realize how correct they are. Their understanding is that a Pit of Shades is a hole that opens and things drop into it and then they're never seen again.
If Pestilens are out of the picture, then Skryre can't easily source replacement payloads. And something working on one thing is no guarantee it will work on other things, different chemical weapons have different mechanisms and are stopped or not by different physical barriers.
Trap sprung. One meaning of 'drove' is to move cattle from place to place. It's archaic in most places, but still in active use in Australia.
The Phoenixian
The Glacier Witch
- Location
- My own little world
From this point forward, while I know in my head it was largely Vampire Hunters visiting her, I'm going to imagine in my heart that Gretel managed to get at least one ex-Von Carstein or other vampire fleeing Sylvania for greener pastures. Or sandier pastures, as the case may be.
Somic
It's meow or never
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TIL! And respect for an elegant trap
