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I'm a bit nervous about the idea of picking Clio over Scripsisti because of Scripsisti opposing the printing press in canon.

We've been punished for trying to metagame with canon knowledge before.
Yeah, I don't love it either. There's an argument that they'd be more enthusiastic about it given that K8P's overarching purpose is safeguarding texts from destruction, but that might be motivated reasoning.

Still, if voting for the Clio was a problem, Boney wouldn't offer them as a choice.
 
It makes sense that a patron god of scribes is not a fan of printing press though.
Though, Mathilde doesn't have any reason to think that the Printing Press will soon be viable enough to massively expand the book population.

And it might not even be- who says it gets invented at a similar time in-quest?
 
I would hope that we don't destroy a potentially priceless archeological site by looting it for marble.
its gonna get destroyed either way, because someone's gonna be garrisoned here and they will want fortifications and housing. archeology is a thing in Whf but it gets put after the needs of the many and this nexus is critical for a whole lot of people in the reikland.
 
On the other hand random people whose only selling point is 'can hit someone good with pointy metal' opens them up more to the dangers of infiltration and corruption. Both the colleges and the religious options involve more screening and include people with mage-sight who can see if something funky is going on.

Well, yes, but that's true of every organisation that doesn't have ingrained religious or magical training. That's why witch hunters and grey wizards are a thing—to prevent that sort of thing happening. And something as important as a nexus, under the direct authority of an Elector, is going to be very hard for the bad sorts of cults to get their claws into, unless a lot of things go wrong very quickly (admittedly, like how the Lahamian conspiracy compromised the former Empress, but that was an extreme event, not a normal one, and it got dealt with in the end).
 
personally i would want state troops with a contingent of jade wizards. the state troops will have no clue what to do when the nexus does something ... new... and the jade wizards will be interested anyway.
 
For my vote I'll probably go:

[ ] [SCRIBE] Locals

For more integration in the Karak and a solid core of scribes we can teach new languages to without the long wait of orphans

[ ] Thorek

Curious to see how the political dorf is doing in elf-land

[ ] Panoramia

She is going to need the emotional support and for the more utilitarian inclined that paper has our name on it as well. We can't have people trash it unjustifiably because of Jade politics or something. If that happens we will have words. :V

[ ] Sylvania

Been a while since we visited, I'm curious to see the new vampire... er I mean totally mortal and god-fearing magrave of Sylvania

[ ] Brief the Emperor

We have a lot to tell him, from tributaries to the fount of Ghyan and the political issues are on him

[ ] Amber College

Shake loose some CF while we can so we can have a buffer after morbs, plus it's lizards and fire
 
Well, yes, but that's true of every organisation that doesn't have ingrained religious or magical training. That's why witch hunters and grey wizards are a thing—to prevent that sort of thing happening. And something as important as a nexus, under the direct authority of an Elector, is going to be very hard for the bad sorts of cults to get their claws into, unless a lot of things go wrong very quickly (admittedly, like how the Lahamian conspiracy compromised the former Empress, but that was an extreme event, not a normal one, and it got dealt with in the end).

Well yeah but should people with no magical or religious training have access to Waystone Nexuses is the thing? These are massive pieces of very dangerous poorly understood infrastructure.
 
and briefing the Emperor seems like a good idea at this stage since we have some results to report.
That, and we need to tell someone ASAP about that nexus. Mathilde seemed convinced that it would quickly be found by ill-intentioned people, and having beastmen taking control of a device that allows a huge area to be fertile and prevent a forest from becoming evil would be horrifying.
 
its gonna get destroyed either way, because someone's gonna be garrisoned here and they will want fortifications and housing. archeology is a thing in Whf but it gets put after the needs of the many and this nexus is critical for a whole lot of people in the reikland.

There's no need at all to destroy it in order to garrison it. You can keep the central buildings intact and just use them.
 
That, and we need to tell someone ASAP about that nexus. Mathilde seemed convinced that it would quickly be found by ill-intentioned people, and having beastmen taking control of a device that allows a huge area to be fertile and prevent a forest from becoming evil would be horrifying.
i dont think we will let it sit around if we dont tell the emperor, that seems unfounded.
There's no need at all to destroy it in order to garrison it. You can keep the central buildings intact and just use them.
its a whole town, you cannot garrison a whole town and with the empires way to wage war you want free fields of fire for cannons and muskets. so someone gonna plop a fortress down and clear the fields of fire. some buildings will probably just taken over but quite a few will not.
 
personally i would want state troops with a contingent of jade wizards. the state troops will have no clue what to do when the nexus does something ... new... and the jade wizards will be interested anyway.

Well yeah but should people with no magical or religious training have access to Waystone Nexuses is the thing? These are massive pieces of very dangerous poorly understood infrastructure.

Well, the state troops would just be the garrison. The actual person on the controls would be an expert—the question is, who's managing, administrating, and paying for it? If we can trust soldiers around the Emperor or the Imperial armouries or the hundreds of other strategic assets they protect without falling to chaos, we can trust them with a nexus.

The only reason beastmen or skaven are not living here already is because the path is hard to find—or rather, was hard to find, considering we just cut a new path into it. The clock is ticking and we need to find something to fill the space, or someone else will. Having state troopers links it in to the wider military of the Empire, which has logistics chains and reinforcements and regular communications.

Hell, remember when Abel nearly fired Kasimir because he was recruiting the wrong types of priests to support his armies? These aren't just thugs with swords, it's a fully staffed military with appropriate, high level, auxiliary support, and the discipline and training to do their jobs—which would be to protect the Nexus at any cost.
 
I hear Age of Sigmar also isn't very good lore-wise, either.
Was, past tense. Growing pains weren't pretty, but AoS is pretty solid right now. 2nd and 3rd Edition are major improvements.

It's still personal preference whether you like the setting. Some people hold incredibly bitter feelings that prevent them from ever considering AoS as a setting. There's also the fact that it's much more fantastical and absurd in proportions compared to WHF, making the setting full of magic monsters and an evil moon look tame.
 
Well, the state troops would just be the garrison. The actual person on the controls would be an expert—the question is, who's managing, administrating, and paying for it? If we can trust soldiers around the Emperor or the Imperial armouries or the hundreds of other strategic assets they protect without falling to chaos, we can trust them with a nexus.

The only reason beastmen or skaven are not living here already is because the path is hard to find—or rather, was hard to find, considering we just cut a new path into it. The clock is ticking and we need to find something to fill the space, or someone else will. Having state troopers links it in to the wider military of the Empire, which has logistics chains and reinforcements and regular communications.

Hell, remember when Abel nearly fired Kasimir because he was recruiting the wrong types of priests to support his armies? These aren't just thugs with swords, it's a fully staffed military with appropriate, high level, auxiliary support, and the discipline and training to do their jobs—which would be to protect the Nexus at any cost.

Then the expert should be in charge because they are the only ones who have the faintest idea what this thing is. Knowing how to defend a fortified position is a far more common skill than 'being aware when someone is messing with the poorly understood ancient arcane technology'. The Elector Count of Reikland is not competent with dealing with things like this (the Colleges or the cult of Rhya proably aren't fully competent either, but they are closer to it) and he certainly isn't competent to name Cousin Wilhelm whose main skill is divesting orcs of their skulls in charge of the place. Yes there might conceivably be a priest with the garrison but

A) There probably won't be two and that is a worrying lack of redundancy in case something happens
B) There is no way to know for sure if the priest will have the standing to overrule the commander if he is about to do something stupid, or if there are signs of infiltration etc...

I would rather the person in charge be the one who has some clue the most dangerous thing present, which is the nexus.
 
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Was, past tense. Growing pains weren't pretty, but AoS is pretty solid right now. 2nd and 3rd Edition are major improvements.

It's still personal preference whether you like the setting. Some people hold incredibly bitter feelings that prevent them from ever considering AoS as a setting. There's also the fact that it's much more fantastical and absurd in proportions compared to WHF, making the setting full of magic monsters and an evil moon look tame.
personally that last part is my reason for not being interested in AoS. i really like the whole"faith, steel and gunpowder" that the empire has going on and that extends to most of the rest of the old world. and if i want more fantasy i can go visit the mummies or the various flavours of elf.
 
Can we get a social with Wilhelmina? Since Eike is out of the Colleges proper now and they'll both want to spend some time together. (And Wilhelmina will definitely want to know how Eike is doing in Mathilde's care.)
 
[X] [SCRIBE] Locals
[X] [SCRIBE] Cult of Scripsisti
[X] [SCRIBE] Cult of Clio

[X] Max
[X] Panoramia
[X] The Black Water Canal
[X] Brief the Emperor
[X] Amber College
[X] Sylvania
[X] Skull River Ambush
 
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[X] Panoramia
Mandatory. Also good to touch base with our loved ones after being accosted by a bird.

[X] Sylvania
Best make sure that Abelhelm's legacy is in safe hands.
[x] Middenland
This is long, long overdue. Ulrican cooperation is the basis for Eonir-Empire diplomacy, we should really have a better idea of what it looks like if we're going to be the head of a project based in Laurelorn.

[X] Brief the Emperor
I would've said this was premature as late as last turn, but with our recent wins and having just made an important discovery right in the Emperor's backyard I think this is worth doing.
[X] Skull River Ambush
I really, really want to know what's going on with this. I know there's a risk of finding out something that puts more work on our plate, but the Dawizhufokri can't just let this one go.


Very uncertain about Scribes, I'll just pick my favourite of each type.
[X] [SCRIBE] Cult of Scripsisti
[X] [SCRIBE] Empire
[X] [SCRIBE] Locals

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[X] Thorek
Not my first pick for a social, but better Thorek than the Druchii.
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[X] Max
I prefer Thorek to Max, but I prefer both over the Druchii.
 
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Management got sick of being asked things like "how would Lizardmen turn up to a fight on the other side of the world from them?" (consider all the handwaves they came up with for literally everyone to turn up to both the Nemesis Crown and Albion events) and decided to blow it all up in favour of a setting where portals from anywhere to anywhere could randomly open up whenever convenient. To do that, they had to retcon away the version of history where Archaon lost. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
I have strong feelings about AoS so I have to mention that portals to anywhere from anywhere popping up whenever convenient isn't actually what happens. All portals are static in location and lead to predictable spots and are well documented with the exception of Chaos hellportals. It's very rare for a portal to appear out of nowhere, and the reason I'm saying this is because the first Campaign for AoS was all about capturing strategic locations in the form of dimensional pathways in static locations and creating fortresses out of them and then cities. Age of Sigmar is an objective capture game, so there is always an objective to capture. They can always make up some random event that inspires a bunch of factions to come fight it out, or make some subsection of an existing faction come crashing in, but random happenstance isn't exactly how things work. There is always a cause and effect.

That's why every faction in AoS is built with a strong motivator. Each faction has something they'll go to war with. Kharadron have Aether Gold, Fyreslayers have Ur-Gold, Idoneth have souls, Daughters of Khaine want to spread the faith, Lumineth want to purify the taint of chaos etc. etc.
personally that last part is my reason for not being interested in AoS. i really like the whole"faith, steel and gunpowder" that the empire has going on and that extends to most of the rest of the old world. and if i want more fantasy i can go visit the mummies or the various flavours of elf.
That's completely fine and valid. I don't ask anyone to be interested in AoS, but I will always fight for people to represent it fairly. It's been getting a bad rap for too long for things that it isn't. A lot of the hate comes from ignorance. If somebody hates AoS, I want it to be at the very least constructive.
 
I wonder... if we could eventually build an organization from the Waystone Project. We could put the Nexus under our authority, with our own garrison and everything
 
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