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Some interesting feelings about just getting all the answers on Dum like this.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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Some would call it "curiosity". Others would say that if the Emperor or one of his staff needs to know what the dwarves are up to the with the second Silver Road war, he'll ask the Grey College and the Grey College will ask their Lady Magister who is a dwarven expert and she'll be able to explain what the dwarves are up to. Because they sure as hell wouldn't get an answer beyond polite evasions (if Karaz-a-Karak is feeling diplomatic) or "we'll tell you if we need something from you" (if it is not) asking the dwarves themselves.
In my opinion, we know the world is a board played upon by many gods, and having on on your corner is the edge for many, and another layer of inoculation again the fell powers of the world.
[X] Religious
Induct her as your Apprentice within your shrine to Ranald and Shallya, acknowledging her faith.
also were gonna give him his goddamn money.
[X] Yes
[X] Religious
Induct her as your Apprentice within your shrine to Ranald and Shallya, acknowledging her faith.
also were gonna give him his goddamn money.
[X] Yes
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Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
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- The Destination of Fate
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Boney said a while back that they probably have stuff on the Ancestors Gods, because they were friends for a time, but it seems unlikely they'd know much about the prior ones-
Right! Exactly.
Ericwinter
Definitely not a Skaven Infiltrator
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- America
To be fair, she did have to track him down, cajole him into spilling, and even agree to assist with a tradition she finds distasteful. Sure, it's not quite fighting our way past Morghur and breaking into Dum to drag him out of his bed in the middle of the night for questions, but it was some effort.Some interesting feelings about just getting all the answers on Dum like this.
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There are many dawi secrets that may only be passed on from master to apprentice. Doing it in their style in any respect is certainly brutal, but it also offers Eike some exceptionally unique opportunities, like the chance to one day learn Arcane Khazalid from us. (once we learn it, anyways)
Sure, that's still technically true if we induct her in other styles, but doing it in a dawi one that tangibly improves her ties to the karaz ankor will make it less likely anyone raises an objection to it. We don't have to apprentice her in the dawi style through and through, but first impressions matter quite a bit.
By the same token though, we can better position her to inherit our legacy as the dammerlichter by inducting her as a stirlander - and also improve her ties to the EIC's stomping grounds.
Mind, both of them improve her connections with respect to the EIC, trade with the karaz ankor is a big thing for them after all, but I figured I'd throw that out there.
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- Great Khanate of Scotland
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I love how the universal reaction to this reveal is a resounding "What."
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- Canada
Borek strode out of the Chaos Wastes, solo, to bring aid to Karag Dum.
Then he returned to the Chaos Wastes at the head of a large warband, only to send the warband home without him.
Then he strode out of the Chaos Wastes, solo, again.
As far as walking in Grimnir's footsteps, I'm pretty he's one of the first to do so in reverse, multiple times. Somewhere, Grimnir is giving him a long, slow clap (but a respectful clap, since Borek is still one of his Slayers).
Mathilde has a lot of hats to fill and I'm not sure throwing the whole enormity of the task on her from day 1 is going to bend her out of shape or succeed.
Some people work well under pressure, but any ONE area of Mathilde's interest is already big boots to fill. The dwarf way commits them to all of those.
Even if as a human she has flexibility, she's also a child and likely to take it more literally than may be intended.
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- Moscow
Not necessarily. It would be in their style to make some beings to oversee dwarves. If an actual Old One could be so well tracked across history the Lizardmen probably wouldn't have as many problems as they do.
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- Moscow
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- Finland
[X] Yes
I'd really like for us to pay our debts please.
[X] Religious
Induct her as your Apprentice within your shrine to Ranald and Shallya, acknowledging her faith.
[X] Secrets
Read her in to a number of minor but exciting secrets to emphasize her duties as a knower and uncoverer of secrets.
I'd really like for us to pay our debts please.
[X] Religious
Induct her as your Apprentice within your shrine to Ranald and Shallya, acknowledging her faith.
[X] Secrets
Read her in to a number of minor but exciting secrets to emphasize her duties as a knower and uncoverer of secrets.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
Vote isn't open for another 3 hours.
Holy fuck.
Kudos to the pragmatic voters (not me) who cautioned against trying to walk by the murder goat.
Now, can we go learn Nehekharan and search for Karak Zorn yet? I'm sure we can fit that into a modest 3 AP, right?
Kudos to the pragmatic voters (not me) who cautioned against trying to walk by the murder goat.
Now, can we go learn Nehekharan and search for Karak Zorn yet? I'm sure we can fit that into a modest 3 AP, right?
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- France
Why we should give Eike a Dwarf Ceremony
In the past, we have seen the value in teaching Eike to get along with the Dawi. There are multiple good reasons to cultivate Eike's relationship with them, and it is absolutely not just a "Mathilde-centric meme vote". These reasons are as follows, in no particular order :
In the past, we have seen the value in teaching Eike to get along with the Dawi. There are multiple good reasons to cultivate Eike's relationship with them, and it is absolutely not just a "Mathilde-centric meme vote". These reasons are as follows, in no particular order :
- It's a very important skill for a Grey.
- The Greys are an order of diplomats and spies, not just of assassins, and if Eike decides she doesn't want to be a professional stabby-person we should enable that.
- The Grey order as a whole would definitely be happy if our Apprentice had a good relationship with the Dawi. Even if it's just "she knows how to navigate Dawi customs without issues" and not any crazy "Dawi love her for her part in the Mount Silverspear reclamation" rep.
- It's a very important skill for any Wizard who like Mathilde gets tired of the fear humans have of magic
- To Mathilde, living among the Dawi is a reprieve from how humans are. Ensuring Eike is well able to function among Dawi is doing her a favor for the future, just in case Eike also finds she doesn't like living in Imperial cities.
- It's a very important skill for the EIC head
- All the reasons why we wanted her to come to K8P for a visit are equally good reasons for us to make sure her Apprenticeship with us teaches her not only magic, but also how Dawi work.
- It's a clean break between her previous student experience and her time as Mathilde's apprentice
- It's very in-character for Mathilde
- It sets the tone of "who we are" in a way that would be hard to replicate elsewhere, while avoiding putting her in danger.
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I think we can fix Morghur if he is indeed an old one. But it might need the help of lizardmen and Slaan. Barring that it might just relate to how the way stone network strips Dhar and turns it into a stable stored power.
At best we get an old one. At worst we might destroy Morghur permanently.
At best we get an old one. At worst we might destroy Morghur permanently.
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- florida
"The root of all that is good."
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MY SKULL IS VIBRATING YES THIS IS EVERYTHING I WANTED!
...can we get an option to suggest a solution like we made with the Sword of Gazul? Some Celestial College works could either tame the cross-winds or provide divination to calculate precisely when it is safe to launch/land from unshielded entrances.
Eh, I remember that we already introduced her to the Dawi, and within like a week she was wearing her hair like a plaitling and carrying an axe and wearing chainmail. This would just be a continuation of that.
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- Omniverse #1345
I expect Borek's probably just going to tell us to spend the money for a Worthy cause. He almost certainly won't accept it for himself, Slayers never accept money owed from before they took the oath.
I figure that if we tell him we can remove that earmark from our funds, either by donating it (probably to a dwarven cause, which I doubt the thread would find objectionable) or by having permission to do with it what we will.
I figure that if we tell him we can remove that earmark from our funds, either by donating it (probably to a dwarven cause, which I doubt the thread would find objectionable) or by having permission to do with it what we will.
The hunter that chases two rabbits catches neither.
They're unlikely to be that enthusiastic about a single point of failure that is very likely to get pilots killed and gyrocopters destroyed if it breaks or is dispelled, and that they have no way to maintain or repair.
Voikirium
SV's Estalia Guy
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So.
If you, like me, are now deeply curious about what is up with Morghur, a note that the Estalians are also descended from Tylos and may have something, and that we have work we could do in Estalia for the Waystone project.
Just noting all of this down.
If you, like me, are now deeply curious about what is up with Morghur, a note that the Estalians are also descended from Tylos and may have something, and that we have work we could do in Estalia for the Waystone project.
Just noting all of this down.
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Part of me... part of me wants to ask Borek if Morghur can be redeemed. If the taint may be cleansed, and what was broken can be made whole. The Dawi outgrew him, but that does not mean he has outgrown them. Through them, he might be saved.
I also remember your Estalia quest, noting down ideas for that too?
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- The Middle of the Howling Wilderness
It's possible that Urmskaladrak was repurposed to create Hashut, just as Radixashen eventually became Morghur. Granted, the creation of Hashut would have been on a significantly larger scale.
This theory would also fit with Borek's account of Morghur somehow changing or transforming the remaining dwarves of Karag Dum, as Hashut has fairly clearly had a transformative influence on the Dawi Zharr, given the whole "tusks" and "sometimes turn into giant bull-monsters" situation.
Well, if the story we just heard is true, Morghur's current situation as an embodied creature is very much a recent occurence. He (they?) may have been an entirely immaterial being during his time as a Nehekharan deity. And if the suggestion that Hashut and the Horned Rat were produced through techniques similar to that used to bind Morghur, then it seems likely that the theory and lore that underlies the process is also applicable to immaterial creatures like Apparitions.
RE: the secret lore, that's something that we would need to investigate as part my