- Location
- Before the Ninth Gate
We were straight up told that by Deathfang, when he said we follow the Dancer.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
- Start date
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Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
- Location
- The Destination of Fate
- Pronouns
- She/Her
That's just the thing, isn't it? That's Deathfang's impression and we have no idea of just how reliable his knowledge of the gods are. He asserts that Rhya isn't Isha, at least.
For all we know, maybe Ranald just sorta gives off the same vibe as Loec to his senses and they're actually separate people with overlapping spheres of influence, which is why Deathfang thinks that.
dinomannitro6
all your gender is belong to us
- Location
- The Land Where The Sunflowers Bloom
Beyond the loec stuff, I also just like dancing, and think it has potential for cute Pan scenes.
The fief consists of about fifty herd-owning families.
There's a modest manor that's Mathilde's if she wants it.
Grey Wizards are something to be inflicted upon the enemy. Mathilde's acceptance by the fief is going to get set back at least a decade if she starts doing magic to the locals.
Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
- Location
- The Destination of Fate
- Pronouns
- She/Her
If this is the case, then why does Mathilde continue to inflict puns and funny acronyms upon things that she then shows to her College peers
?Checkmate, Magisters.
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- Location
- Australia
I am thinking in terms of our own library, yes. I really have to insist that it is in fact pressing. We've decided our library is committed to Order but that doesn't mean it's already as orderly as it can possibly be. Consider that Mathilde's dedicated herself to Ulgu, but still doesn't have total knowledge of wielding it and still finds great use in the books she has on the subject. Similarly, books on bibliothecography won't be obsoleted by the Order mandate, they'll help enact it. The more resources Mathilde has on hand, the better she'll be able to pursue her goals - this applies to all things and the library is no exception.
But I said it's not merely useful, but pressing, and it is. Von Sangster's library is described as a "great library" and Mannfred's is noted to rival it. One of the few other libraries described as "great" is the Great Library of Altdorf, which Boney's said is between ten and a hundred times as big as ours. Maybe Mannfred's library isn't quite as big, but I think it's safe to assume it's still a gargantuan amount that outstrips our current stock by a good margin. Purchasing an extensive set of guides on library organisation will soon be a great relief for Mathilde, who'd otherwise have no easy reference on hand when organising the coming booktide.
There's no better time to get books on library science than at this very moment (except perhaps when we first decided on a library). Please purchase them.
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- Location
- New Brunswick, NJ
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
Very Very Very Bad Idea.
Don't try to proselytize among dwarves.
If we come home from bookmining with an insane treasure trove of books, I think it would be super narratively appropriate for Mathilde to respond to that by delving into the closest thing her world has to library science so she can deal with all that. But it feels cart-before-the-horse to invest in those books ahead of time when we don't know that we are going to come back with a ton of loot that outstrips our ability to catalogue it. See Boneyquote in my signature.
- Location
- Australia
Something I think I've twigged on is that outside professional settings, Mathilde isn't actually that emotionally guarded or reserved. She presents herself as such to the reader, but in the actual setting, she's a fair bit more expressive. I think the most prominent example was during Kazrik and Edda's wedding, where Mathilde yelled drunken encouragement at them but described that in a fairly detached way, but there are other examples like her description of her romantic relationship with Panoramia when it first began in earnest.
So I think she did feel touched and expressed that to Rolf, it's just we don't get to see that because Mathilde keeps that sort of thing private from the readers.
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- Location
- Aotearoa
Nice update Boney, and bouncing between the mystical (and pedagogical) and the scientific and the agrarian.
reasonably?
Just so I don't kick myself later, wayshards aren't something we could be purchasing now? We'd get access to one through taking some sort of relevant in-turn action?
Hmm. I wonder if Dr Quirin Waramunt could make one final, posthumous contribution to scientific inquiry within the Empire, after what we're assuming will be his upcoming death from old age. I'm sure Magister Margarete would be overjoyed to get an example of Rattus sapiens upon her table. Though the environmental factors experienced during his last decade or so do differ markedly from the usual for the species.
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- Location
- USA
If there hasn't been at least one paper on Rattus sapiens from the mounds of Skaven bodies created during the Battle of Ubersriek, I'll be very surprised.
- Location
- San Ramon, CA
Only if he gets to see the look on the faces of his "pen pals" when they learn that the receiver of a doctorate and a contributor to several published papers was a Skaven the whole time.
Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
- Location
- The Destination of Fate
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I kinda hope we at least get the option of asking him when the time comes. It wouldn't be very pragmatic given the threat the Skaven are and the general culture and mindset surrounding the circumstances, but it'd make me less uncomfortable about, you know, someone we know and sympathize with being autopsied.
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Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
I mean, if they spend the fief's money on raising their own standard of living... what would be wrong with that?
- Location
- Aotearoa
Well, we can't ever let that get out. But being listed as some contributor alongside or instead of LM Grey on a paper authored by M Amethyst for some vague contribution, maybe.
True, though wasn't Elspeth there? If so, she didn't reserve one for Margarete.
E: Maybe not.
Though even if it's been covered, this body would differ in the lack of recent warpstone exposure- if we dared admit that much.
The problem with both of those points is that it increases the risk of exposure of Qrech, and our capture of him. OpSec paranoia pushes for a quiet disposal of the body, even as the lure of scientific progress appears to pull in a different direction.
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Something like: "Mathilde is secretly a softie with headpats addiction" perhaps?
RandomTechPriest
He Who Steals Toasters
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[X] [FIEF] Approve plus Jade Wizard
[X] [DWARF] Greatsword with Rune of the Unknown, for training (1 gallon AV)
[X] [LIBRARY] Colleges of Magic: Apparitions, Powerstones, Aethyr, Wild Magic
[X] [COLLEGE] No purchase.
[X] [PURCHASE] Books on Greatswords (Extensive Dwarven)
The Phoenixian
The Glacier Witch
- Location
- My own little world
Whether or not Eike wants to be like Mathilde, specifically, she does appear to be drawn from the same skein that Mathilde was. Mathilde is good at many things but, via our own inclinations as voters, her love of a skill is absolutely centered in Learning. The sort of person she wants to be is one that very much resembles Mathilde, regardless of who is on her mind.
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After sleeping on it, it occurs to me that a version of my suggestion may have already happened, to a degree. We gave Eike the choice we did by herding the winds in front of her.
How must it feel as an apprentice, to see the wizard lord offhandedly show you a simple trick, and think nothing of it. Only to learn as things went on that it was, by all rights, completely impossible.
Given that we live in a world where the dice fell as they did and all they have decided retroactively... No wonder she takes so well to Ulgu's mysteries. No wonder she seeks Learning. How much has she studied having deeply experienced a magic that her every formal lesson tells her to be impossible, pushing that question, and all its confusion, to the first and foundational part of her experience with it?
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- Location
- Utrecht
Impressionable child, meet larger than life wizard lord with a penchant for showing off.
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Magical Mystical Mathilde (her stage name) : And now for my next trick... I shall conjure... ANOTHER LOST KARAK!
dwarfs: Wooohoo! I love that one!
Everyone else: That trick is getting old.
Dwarfs: EXACTLY!
E.E. boooo! Get some new material
M.M.M: fiiine! For my next trick, then, i shall make steam wagons ignore the roughest of rough terrain... In the chaos wastes. With a dragon. To visit a lost Karak!
Everyone: <happy audience sounds>
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I was honestly expecting them to have it nearly ritualistically minimalistic as hazing. As in magisters entertaining themselves by putting effort into making it as unrewarded and uncommented upon as possible. Staging the scene to make it feel even less rewarded than if it had actually been ignored outright.
Such as the magister handing the apprentice a mismatched pair of socks and informing the apprentice "You'll need warm socks while you're travelling with me"
The Grey Order expects its Apprentices to work for the betterment of an unaware and largely uncaring society, but not for an actively hostile one.
Aliya
Someone I might become
- Location
- Kazakhstan
- Pronouns
- They/She/It
@Boney, would "hit up the eleven library to learn some foundational logic and mathematics" be an acceptable action?
While my suggestion to just start learning maths right as we get Eike to troll our apprentice a little might have come out as a joke, I also think any logic/math related trait is likely to have that +1 learning tag which would round out our learning at +30, which would be lovely.
While my suggestion to just start learning maths right as we get Eike to troll our apprentice a little might have come out as a joke, I also think any logic/math related trait is likely to have that +1 learning tag which would round out our learning at +30, which would be lovely.