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The worst thing we could dig up is Countess Von Carstein, since the Castle dropped on her and we never found the body. I expect it takes some time to regenerate if we manage to unearth her, so a fast enough response could deal with it unless she's secretly a Strigoi with Horrible Regeneration or whatever.
Imagine if we do manage to catch her though. That would be a massive coup.
Imagine, she pops out, swearing vengeance on the silly Grey Jouneywoman that ruined her plans...
Only to run into the same woman, now a Lady Magister, with multiple magical and runed items.
The confusion might last long enough for us to take her down in one hit
 
Imagine if we do manage to catch her though. That would be a massive coup.
Well, whether she's still running about or she's collapsed under the rubble of Drakenhof, she's certainly not doing anything anymore. She could be laying low, but any claim that she's a Von Carstein is completely undermined if she continues to lay low while Roswita celebrates her victory by giving away Sylvania. I think it's more likely she's dead (for a certain definition of dead). Some confirmation would be nice, but I imagine it would be more beneficial as a balm to Mathilde's soul and an addition to her collection than an actual coup at this point.
 
If we dig up a vampire we can just drown them in a swamp with the new cult who likes to drown vampires in a swamps.
 
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The nearest swamp to Drakenhof is Dark Moor dozens of miles away. We have a tried and true method for dealing with Vampires. Singing King, Alkharad and a Bretonnian Blood Dragon's skulls are all on our shelf after all.
 
The worst thing we could dig up is Countess Von Carstein, since the Castle dropped on her and we never found the body. I expect it takes some time to regenerate if we manage to unearth her, so a fast enough response could deal with it unless she's secretly a Strigoi with Horrible Regeneration or whatever.
Honestly, Countess Von Carstein overall did not impress. A Varghulf might be more dangerous. At least in close quarters.
 
Honestly, Countess Von Carstein overall did not impress. A Varghulf might be more dangerous. At least in close quarters.
Her Castle was bombarded by about a hundred artillery pieces. We didn't really get much of an accounting for her personal ability, aside from us copying her technique to make the Matrix. We assumed she was one of the people that miscasted, but Mathilde has miscasted in the heat of battle and she wasn't even using Dhar.
 
She also had a casting attempt that Journeywoman Mathilde felt contemptuous of.

At least, assuming that was the Countess. Though if it wasn't, then I'm not sure why she didn't try anything.
Mathilde was also trashing Jovi Suncryer and Hexensohn during that campaign for getting themselves killed and being useless Mages. There was even a possibility to hate the use of Magic as a negative trait after Drakenhof. It was a real shit show.
 
It's possible the countess focused more on vampiric powers or on support necromancy (i.e. raising armies) than direct combat magic. Outside of Necrachs, magical ability is highly variable among vampires, after all.
 
Worst case scenario if we dig her up would be if she's a Martial specialist, and just never had the opportunity to make proper use of that in the siege.
 
Von Carsteins are Jacks of all Trades, Master of Some. What a Von Carstein specialises in tends to vary from one to another. Mannfred was a Caster specialist, Konrad was a combat specialist, Isabella was a Charm Specialist, and Vlad did everything and specialised in nothing. They tend to have a stronger connection to animals and have some weird Weather powers as part of their bloodline, like creating a temporary storm that darkens the skies and causes turbulence.
 
Is there any chance a Bookmining trip might give us a chance to look into the whole Hexensohn thing? Because that bout of utter insanity from a College Head still confuses me to this day. I mean there's the possibility it's spooky vampire waystone stuff but mostly just wanting to know.
 
Gabriella-Heidi didn't seem to think she was a von Carstein at all.
"Countess von Carstein," you venture, and she scowls.

"So she calls herself. Incorrect on all three counts - if you'll excuse the pun. No more spurious a claim has ever been made, I assure you."
(Spurious is a good word. That's the only time it's appeared in a main post, made this easily searchable.) :)
 
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Von Carsteins are kind of hard to track. Vlad didn't spend much of his time making Vampires. Aside from Isabella, I think he had five direct Thralls that he turned personally. Everyone knows Mannfred and Konrad, but there are the less well known Von Carsteins. Fritz, Hans and Pieter. Fritz attacked Middenheim and was killed by a silver tipped arrow through the heart from a Knight of the White Wolf. Pieter was more successful in his siege of Nuln, but he was killed by the Witch Hunter Helmut van Hal. Hans was killed by Konrad in a rage through Mannfred's scheming.

I have no idea who they sired. Other notable Von Carstein figures include Count von Sangster, mentioned in this thread primarily for his library in Nuln and the fact that Academics actually correspond with him to gain some of his collection. There's Constantin von Carstein, who happened to be Mannfred and Konrad's biographer and from which much of what is know about those two was acquired from the scavenged pieces of his work. He didn't die with his masters so he's still out there. There's Nyklaus von Carstein, better known as Count Noctillus, who according to the timeline of Dreadfleet has yet to teleport his castle into Galleon's Graveyard so who knows what his current status in the Quest timeline looks like.
 
I have no idea who they sired. Other notable Von Carstein figures include Count von Sangster, mentioned in this thread primarily for his library in Nuln and the fact that Academics actually correspond with him to gain some of his collection. There's Constantin von Carstein, who happened to be Mannfred and Konrad's biographer and from which much of what is know about those two was acquired from the scavenged pieces of his work. He didn't die with his masters so he's still out there. There's Nyklaus von Carstein, better known as Count Noctillus, who according to the timeline of Dreadfleet has yet to teleport his castle into Galleon's Graveyard so who knows what his current status in the Quest timeline looks like.
I had no idea there was actually a Constantin von Carstein 😅 All in all, all those you mentioned here look really cool. I hope we will see at least one of them in the Quest, but I've few hopes of that. The only exception would be somehow recruiting Sangster or at least getting informations from him.
 
I'm home from my weekend of adventure and have updated the History of the Waystone Project with the results from our first part of the social round.

All that's left for the social round is the remainder of Eike's stuff, the fief, and the organ vat, so I assume that part 2 will be the final part before we launch into T39. I don't see much value in debating actual turnplans before we know what's going on with the new Waystone actions, but we'll have the purchase vote before then. What are people thinking? Currently I'm feeling something like:

[ ] [LIBRARY] Colleges of Magic: Apparitions, Powerstones, Aethyr, Wild Magic
Total value here is 800gc and 16CF (since we already have Regular+Extensive for two of these topics). Two topics for Mathilde's personal research, two topics for the Waystone project.

[ ] [DWARF] Greatsword with Rune of the Unknown, for training (1 gallon AV)
For training Branarhune, both for ourself and for anyone we might want to teach the style to in the future.

[ ] [COLLEGE] No purchase.
Saving that CF for the gigaflex.

[ ] [PURCHASE] No purchase.
I don't think there's anything we want to spend our own money on? Maybe Imperial and dwarf books about metallurgy, I suppose -- if so, I would support saving a bit of money by simply buying Obscure/Antiquarian/Esoteric (150gc) rather than Regular+Extensive books for each. My understanding is that we're primarily interested in this topic for the sake of Waystone Gold, which means we want rare books and not a wide assortment of basic texts. Cuts it down to 300gc rather than 500gc.
 
How about buying 1 point worth of books on each of the Elven gods from the Library of Mourning, so we have at least a basic grasp on all of them?

[ ] [LIBRARY] Colleges of Magic: Apparitions, Powerstones, Aethyr, Wild Magic
Total value here is 800gc and 16CF (since we already have Regular+Extensive for two of these topics). Two topics for Mathilde's personal research, two topics for the Waystone project.
I forget: What is Wild Magic exactly, and how is it relevant to Waystones?
 
I forget: What is Wild Magic exactly, and how is it relevant to Waystones?
Wild Magic refers to Lore of the Wilds, a theorised Dhar+Ghur mixture. It's the Lore of the Beastmen Bray-shaman when they're not using Chaos Lores or standard Winds. It's basically a more primal and darker Lore of Beasts. Beastmen have a bunch to do with Waystones, although it's usually toppling them and converting them into Herdstones that they turn into a ritual site called a "Blood Grounds" where they smear blood and feces all over it and sacrifice tons of people to gain the favor of their gods and enhance their powers/boost the ambient Dhar. It's like Dark Waystones.
 
How about buying 1 point worth of books on each of the Elven gods from the Library of Mourning, so we have at least a basic grasp on all of them?
This feels like a waste of money unless we have a use for those books. I'd much rather just pick up the full plus five on relevant gods with the library option or make a deal with the library so we can unleash the scribes on them and get all of them.
 
I think that, in addition to the connection to Herdstones, Wild Magic is a topic it's good to be informed about because when we finally get around to reclaiming Waystones Beastmen are among the enemies we're most likely to run into. Many lost Waystones and nexuses are in forests, and one of the two Waystone nexuses in the Forest of Shadows that Aksel mentioned is (probably) currently in the hands of Beastmen.

I think we best wait with metallurgy for another purchase turn, since it's a topic we have zero books on and on which we want all available Empire and dwarf books, which makes it a perfect topic for the Barak Varr booksellers option. Other than that, I think we should consider buying books on Hoeth for their insight on libraries - Verena too, maybe, but books on Hoeth we can get up to Esoteric.
 
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