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I'm a bit worried about the lack of experienced enchanters now.

We don't need those right now, but if we plan to translate any theoretical results we gain into something practical, I suggest we hire more than just ourselves and Egrimm as semi-competent magecrafters.
 
I'm a bit worried about the lack of experienced enchanters now.

We don't need those right now, but if we plan to translate any theoretical results we gain into something practical, I suggest we hire more than just ourselves and Egrimm as semi-competent magecrafters.
Once we need them (i.e have some knowledge on how to repair or build waystones),i expect we will be able to tell the colleges, and they will push people our way.

Kind of like how our lecture about countering WAAAGH! Blew up in attendance without our input
 
I'm a bit worried about the lack of experienced enchanters now.

We don't need those right now, but if we plan to translate any theoretical results we gain into something practical, I suggest we hire more than just ourselves and Egrimm as semi-competent magecrafters.

Given that the Grey Lords are full time mages in the vein of the Archmages of the Tower of Hoeth I think it is fair to assume they are good enchanters. Also the hag (whose name I still can't spell) works by binding spirits to items so she is a kind of enchanter.
 
Given that the Grey Lords are full time mages in the vein of the Archmages of the Tower of Hoeth I think it is fair to assume they are good enchanters. Also the hag (whose name I still can't spell) works by binding spirits to items so she is a kind of enchanter.

I think it was mentioned that they create magic arms and armour for the city (although it's also implied to be an expensive service), so I expect them to have a measure of enchanting ability.
 
I'd assume not. I'd guess that happens in the 2500s and thus may not occur in quest-time at all.
The only clue we have is that the head priest that threw the Ulrican was the predecessor to the head priest of 2522.

Honestly, I think it'd be reasonable to put it earlier than now, and reasonable to put it later.

The only other factor is that the two talked about Kislev's weakness, so you could argue it must have been before Boris' reign.

I haven't even read the discussion for this past update but can I just say it is absolutely amazing how much participation this quest has. I mean this particular update doesn't seem to have anything out of the ordinary and it is a relatively simple vote but it has generated 56 pages of discussion.

Are there any other quests that generate as much participation and discussion as this one?
It helps that this is the most popular quest on the site, I'm pretty sure.

Certainly, this quest has the record by far for the most voters in a single vote.
 
I just noticed that the winning "[HEDGEWISE] Discreetly" option actually has a potential drawback over both other options that I hadn't thought about. It's the only option that doesn't allow Aksel to just spontaneously throw Arcane-based observations into the group when relevant or useful. As openly Hedgewise he could just do whatever is natural. As a supposed Grey Perpetual he could have whatever obscure "theoretical" knowledge he seems to have specialized in. But a lawful Imperial priest of Halétha isn't allowed to outright know Arcane magic stuff without seeming highly suspicious. That means that his input might frequently have to he laundered and be included with a delay, or that him being a Hedgewise will become an open secret at least in front of all of the Waystone Project participants and only maybe useful as a fig leaf to protect from distant outsiders.

Ah well. It still honors Halétha and at least it does provide that fig leaf if needed.
 
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Perfectly legal priest of Haletha is allowed to know all the arcane secrets they want.
They just are not allowed to do any non divine magic.
Pretty sure Mathilde can launder any too arcane seeming secrets, while lot of what the Hedgewise have is probably lot more rituallish and easy to dress up as religious.
 
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I just noticed that the winning "[HEDGEWISE] Discreetly" option actually has a potential drawback over both other options that I hadn't thought about. It's the only option that doesn't allow Aksel to just spontaneously throw Arcane-based observations into the group when relevant or useful. As openly Hedgewise he could just do whatever is natural. As a supposed Grey Perpetual he could have whatever obscure "theoretical" knowledge he seems to have specialized in. But a lawful Imperial priest of Halétha isn't allowed to outright know Arcane magic stuff without seeming highly suspicious. That means that his input might frequently have to he laundered and be included with a delay, or that him being a Hedgewise will become an open secret at least in front of all of the Waystone Project participants and only maybe useful as a fig leaf to protect from distant outsiders.

Ah well. It still honors Halétha and at least it does provide that fig leaf if needed.

Teclisian magic states that divine and arcane magic are the same thing. Now we have first hand experience that this might not be true, but through the doctrine of the Colleges it's perfectly legitimate.
 
Teclisian magic states that divine and arcane magic are the same thing. Now we have first hand experience that this might not be true, but through the doctrine of the Colleges it's perfectly legitimate.
Most people also can't even detect Divine signatures. Mathilde can because of Avatar (and Deathfang inexplicably is capable of doing so), but most people can't. Arguing against Godly intervention is pretty hard when you can't prove it.
 
Perfectly legal priest of Haletha is allowed to know all the arcane secrets they want.
They just are not allowed to do any non divine magic.
I don't think Halétha is important enough for her priests to he above suspicion like that. We're talking theoretical knowledge of the inner mechanics of practical application of concrete spells here. Of sharing and integrating various potentially useful parts of the Hedgewise magical paradigm into the greater whole that we are setting up here. That's not the kind of stuff that a priest of a lesser deity that's neither ever actually cast a spell nor harbored and collaborated with illegal witches should have access to. It's the kind of stuff that would only be written in very restricted books that people get access to on a need to know basis and that he would have to have studied forwards and backwards in order to have the kind of knowledge that usually only comes with habitual practice.
 
I don't think Halétha is important enough for her priests to he above suspicion like that. We're talking theoretical knowledge of the inner mechanics of practical application of concrete spells here. Of sharing and integrating various potentially useful parts of the Hedgewise magical paradigm into the greater whole that we are setting up here. That's not the kind of stuff that a priest of a lesser deity that's neither ever actually cast a spell nor harbored and collaborated with illegal witches should have access to. It's the kind of stuff that would only be written in very restricted books that people get access to on a need to know basis and that he would have to have studied forwards and backwards in order to have the kind of knowledge that usually only comes with habitual practice.
And this specific priest has a grey lady magister behind him to vouch for his knowledge in the arcane and esoteric. He probably shouldn't cast stuff himself without making sure it can look like a divine prayer.
 
The Waystone Project

Active Members:
Lady Magister Mathilde Weber of the Grey Order
Lady Magister Elrisse of the Order of Light
Lord Magister Egrimm van Horstmann of the Order of Light
Magister Tochter Grunfeld of the Order of Life
Lector Aksel of the Cult of Halétha
Lord Hatalath of the Grey Lords
Vicereine Cadaeth of the Ward of Frost
Lecturer Sarvoi of House Tindomiel
Runelord Thorek Ironbrow of Karak Azul
Baba Niedzwenka of Erengrad
Ice Maiden Zlata of the Hromada Ledyanoy Ved'ma
So this is the full team for the start of the project

Is Sarcvoi a male or female name?
 
And this specific priest has a grey lady magister behind him to vouch for his knowledge in the arcane and esoteric. He probably shouldn't cast stuff himself without making sure it can look like a divine prayer.
I mean yeah, his priest-status will work fine as a legal fig leaf. But I'm pretty sure that if Aksel doesn't hold back with advice and observations then none of the Magisters will be fooled. And if he does hold back then, well, he's holding back and his theoretical knowledge won't flow as easily and smoothly during brainstorming and experimentation.

I'm not saying we didn't make the right choice. I'm just saying that the option we chose has unique drawbacks that go beyond being a compromise between the other two options. And that I hadn't thought of this unique drawback until just now, where the vote is already over.
 
But I'm pretty sure that if Aksel doesn't hold back with advice and observations then none of the Magisters will be fooled.

I'm fairly sure none of them are fooled anyway. It's obvious what a "Priest of Halétha" really is. The fiction isn't there to trick them, it's to tell them to keep their noses out of our business and that if they do get involved, we're prepared to make the whole thing a pissing match between the cults and the orders, which no one wants right now.
 
It just occurred to me that WEB-MAT's official charter works well to diminish the issue I'm concerned about. None of the Magisters know how long we've been collaborating with this particular clergy member. Given his apparent trust of Mathilde and his exceptional knowledge of niche magical phenomena the two of them working together might be a secondary reason for why WEB-MAT has such a weird charter in the first place. The only people who could counter that are the other WEB-MAT members, and I trust them to keep mum about it.
I'm fairly sure none of them are fooled anyway. It's obvious what a "Priest of Halétha" really is. The fiction isn't there to trick them, it's to tell them to keep their noses out of our business and that if they do get involved, we're prepared to make the whole thing a pissing match between the cults and the orders, which no one wants right now.
Are you sure. I thought Halétha was also worshipped by people who, as far as they themselves know, have nothing to do with the Hedgefolk. The Forest of Shadows is huge and has many villages in need of protection.
 
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