Enchantments and runes both change the rules of reality, but in different directions. Trying to have them coexist in one item is like trying to put an oven in your freezer so you can cook your food without having to defrost it.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Enchantments and runes both change the rules of reality, but in different directions. Trying to have them coexist in one item is like trying to put an oven in your freezer so you can cook your food without having to defrost it.
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- Australia
So for things like Gazul's Eye and waystones, would it be like hooking up the heat exhaust of the freezer to heat up the oven?
That sort of thing, yes. Miniaturization is hard. Designing something that fits in a warehouse is an entirely different world to designing something that fits in your pocket.
A pity that an air-ship is still too small, it would have been thematically cool for the ship to have both, but on the other hand it will have a gyrocopter on deck, that can stand in for our dwarf rep quite well, it doesn't have to be runes. In a way it it even better since we already have runes and magic combination, the Eye itself.
Speaking of that I wonder if we will inspire any radical engineers when we fly the airship to eight peaks itself. Gotri does know that lift gas is there now.
Speaking of that I wonder if we will inspire any radical engineers when we fly the airship to eight peaks itself. Gotri does know that lift gas is there now.
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- Australia
Not if you exclude the Mark of Ulgu. It wasn't a mechanic in Realms of Sorcery, nor is it in Winds of Magic, and in Divided Loyalties, they do not contribute to the Magic stat.
Does windherding apply to it? It's windherding, but it still hits the core idea of "make different magics play nice together".
After Bok, I'd kinda hoped to do some collaboration with Kragg eventually, since there's now evidence it's Traditional. We can't do Bok itself, but maybe something else.
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- Brazil
Related question but how big is Bok ? I not sure where on the scale from pocket size to karak size does he fit.
No.
Try it and find out.
I can't remember if I ever gave his size in the text, but my mental image is about twice the height of a person.
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- California, USA
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- He/Him
I thought he was the size of a regular Dwarf! This creates a mental image of Kragg getting a crick in his neck from all the looking up he has to do.
... Krakk on a stepladder is a hell of a vibe.I thought he was the size of a regular Dwarf! This creates a mental image of Kragg getting a crick in his neck from all the looking up he has to do.
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- Finland
Have you seen to size of dwarven construction?
These people have scaffolding down to an art.
Well yes, but this wouldn't be a semi permanent Construction. So I imagine that kragg has a dwarvish stepladder for these occasions.
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- Finland
Semi permanent is the least dawi are willing to do.
That "stepladder" will outlive nations.
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- Australia
The Border Princes makes that very easy.
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- Brazil
So anyone interested in getting Krag to help design a runed and enchanted battle altar as the next step towards the smalest possible combined item ?
I'm sorry but I doubt we even get kragg to hear the idea for longer then 30 seconds before the no. He's the arch-conservative of the runelords. Our best bet is a young radical or badgering thorek into it.
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- Utrecht
Kragg is busy with bok. He does not multi-task.
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- Brazil
I could have agreed with you if he hadn't already proclaimed he would spend the rest of his life learning how a spell was runed. We would be basicaly helping him walk that path.
pucflek
Verified simpleton
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- Czech Republic
The spell was runed by his Elders in Good Old Days and its study therefore beyond recrimination. You can't go more conservative than attempting to replicate the feat of your ancestors.
Making a newfangled battle altar is not that.
EDIT: Thought i will note that he did help with Eye of Gazul, so he technically already did a battle altar.
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- Utrecht
Pity trying to put a rune on an orb of Sorcery is probably too risky for Kragg.
Adrian XXIV
Average User, from Poland
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- Poland
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Best example of how Dwarfs understand "temporary", is that "temporary camps for human mercenaries" that Dwarfs made for their allies during reconquest of Karak Eight Peaks, were made to hold 40 years
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- Brazil
You kind have to walk before you can run, from tower to battle altar to personal items to just the raw magic.
Because I don't think anything good would come from just sumoning an incarnate elemental and telling him to have at it.
And we're not even talking about his real ladder.
Does he? Belegar knows, but that doesnt mean he told anyone