Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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- Location
- Australia
I wonder who was inviting us to these parties, balls, and gatherings. Sounds like nobles.
@Boney I believe this should be the Great Book of Grudges.
I'm going to be honest, I've been holding my breath for over a week now, so a few more days won't hurt me much.
(it does mean I can give the refresh button on my keyboard a temporary reprieve, however)
- Location
- Australia
Hmm... Could Gretel be trying to prove herself to be an umgi of proven trustworthiness?
What's there to prove? She was a member of the August Order of the Duckling, present at several major events in the K8P undertaking, and worked alongside the Besiegers to successfully quell the threat of piracy in the Border Princes on behalf of Barrak Varr.
She's as trustworthy as they come.
- Location
- Australia
Trustworthy sure, but trustworthy enough to be given a border principality with the backing and legitimacy of Barak Varr? I imagine that'd be a different story. She's still of Journeywoman rank and hasn't racked up the kinds of deeds Mathilde had when she was just a Magister. Doing good work in the area Barak Varr cares about would be a good way to prove her credentials for the job.
There is both the 'Will she betray us?' trust and the 'Can she pull it off?' trust.
That's fair, but consider how desperate Barak Varr might be. Sylvania still doesn't have a Markgraf because anyone qualified for the position wants to stay a thousand miles away from the place at all times. The border princes has a similar reputation, so I doubt they've got a lot of candidates to shift through, which makes a journeywoman with both prestige and experience working in the area a good nomination for the role.
Of course, Ruprecht the Younger of the Winter Wolves is another potential candidate that we know off, so he could have been the one put in charge instead.
Burned_Cookie
Very tired girl.
- Location
- Plato´s cave.
- Pronouns
- She/Her/It/Its
An Ulgu Dragon obviously. They keep turning down promotions because it would be to much publicity.
Frankly I don't read this letter as such.
In my opinion it's not "we're looking for a trustworthy human" but rather they are specifically looking for Mathilde. If she's not interested, they will try something else.
- Location
- Greece
I actually think they probably have one or two of those. Although they would probably have more important things to do, so it doesn't really matter.
Roughly translated thats keylock gulch (or canyon) and believe me, their are worse words in German.
Unless they succumb to the Dawi tendency to not do a thing if you can't do it the right way
- Location
- Earth
The components of this are:
Schlüssel: key, clue or wrench
Schloss: lock or castle
Schlucht: canyon, gorge, ravine
Grey Caravanserai
The Hochlander lurked.
It wasn't easy to lurk in a brightly lit office doing paperwork, but Perpetual Apprentice or not The Hochlander was a Grey Wizard and standards had to be maintained. The paperwork in question consisted of reports, of annoyingly varied format and quality, from the EIC merchants that knowingly contributed to The Network. All of which had to be reviewed, summarised and if appropriate sent on for The Lady Magister's personal attention.
The one he was currently looking at was from Eight Peaks and pertained to the latest caravan from Cathay.
Caravan Master: Sen Tzu
Number of wagons: 8
Guards: Few healthy, many wounded
Sometimes The Hochlander despaired at the inability of merchants to count anything that wasn't money. And would it have killed them to specify who the guards were? Cathayan? Old World mercenaries? Ogres?
Goods: 1 wagon load of assorted powders
That would keep the alchemists happy. And possibly the chefs, depending.
1 wagon load of artwork and trinkets
It never failed to amuse The Hochlander how much people would pay for exotic paperweights. He still chuckled at the amount they made on that crate of Dämmerlichtreiter carvings the EIC had sent eastwards.
1 wagon load of 'wine'
4 wagon loads of tea leaves
Wilhelmina would be happy about that. The wine, or 'wine' whatever that meant, was a mere curiosity but tea was worth its weight in gold.
1 wagon load of silk, dyed bolts no clothing
Curious. The road to Cathay was long and perilous, carrying unfinished goods was highly unusual. Could be that Francesco Caravello had negotiated it in hope it would help the Eight Peaks weavers. Could be a caravan master taking a chance of rumours.
1 passenger looking to travel onwards to Reikland, name of Lin Long, stated reason of carrying messages from the 'King Dragon' to the 'Extremely Western Dragon' (translation uncertain)
At this The Hochlander leaned back, although he continued to present the impression of lurking. A dragon in Reikland? And a Cathayan one at that. Concerning.
The Lady Magister had an interest in dragons, particularly those amenable to written correspondence. However Reikland was far outside her area, discounting Altdorf itself, and she was increasingly busy with The Project. No need to bother her with this. But he would certainly need to pass this along to some of the other Networks controlled by the Collages. A dragon running around the Empire was no laughing matter even if it was keeping its head down.
AN: I figure the ruling dragons of Cathay wouldn't just forget their adopted cousin when he headed home. However between the language barriers, the culture clashes and sheer distance there are going to be some… miscommunications along the way.
It wasn't easy to lurk in a brightly lit office doing paperwork, but Perpetual Apprentice or not The Hochlander was a Grey Wizard and standards had to be maintained. The paperwork in question consisted of reports, of annoyingly varied format and quality, from the EIC merchants that knowingly contributed to The Network. All of which had to be reviewed, summarised and if appropriate sent on for The Lady Magister's personal attention.
The one he was currently looking at was from Eight Peaks and pertained to the latest caravan from Cathay.
Caravan Master: Sen Tzu
Number of wagons: 8
Guards: Few healthy, many wounded
Sometimes The Hochlander despaired at the inability of merchants to count anything that wasn't money. And would it have killed them to specify who the guards were? Cathayan? Old World mercenaries? Ogres?
Goods: 1 wagon load of assorted powders
That would keep the alchemists happy. And possibly the chefs, depending.
1 wagon load of artwork and trinkets
It never failed to amuse The Hochlander how much people would pay for exotic paperweights. He still chuckled at the amount they made on that crate of Dämmerlichtreiter carvings the EIC had sent eastwards.
1 wagon load of 'wine'
4 wagon loads of tea leaves
Wilhelmina would be happy about that. The wine, or 'wine' whatever that meant, was a mere curiosity but tea was worth its weight in gold.
1 wagon load of silk, dyed bolts no clothing
Curious. The road to Cathay was long and perilous, carrying unfinished goods was highly unusual. Could be that Francesco Caravello had negotiated it in hope it would help the Eight Peaks weavers. Could be a caravan master taking a chance of rumours.
1 passenger looking to travel onwards to Reikland, name of Lin Long, stated reason of carrying messages from the 'King Dragon' to the 'Extremely Western Dragon' (translation uncertain)
At this The Hochlander leaned back, although he continued to present the impression of lurking. A dragon in Reikland? And a Cathayan one at that. Concerning.
The Lady Magister had an interest in dragons, particularly those amenable to written correspondence. However Reikland was far outside her area, discounting Altdorf itself, and she was increasingly busy with The Project. No need to bother her with this. But he would certainly need to pass this along to some of the other Networks controlled by the Collages. A dragon running around the Empire was no laughing matter even if it was keeping its head down.
AN: I figure the ruling dragons of Cathay wouldn't just forget their adopted cousin when he headed home. However between the language barriers, the culture clashes and sheer distance there are going to be some… miscommunications along the way.
- Location
- Australia
@Boney, I have some information on Katya, goddess of Disarming Beauty, written up by Andy Law in the Discord server The Rookery. This information has never been canon (in his words "so unofficial it's painful"), but as there's unlikely to be any more information on her other than what's in Tome of Salvation, the 4e core book, and Guide to Ubersreik, I figured there was a chance it could be of some value. Andy Law has helped write several WFRP books and it was he who created Katya in Tome of Salvation.
- Katya, Goddess of Disarming Beauty, is worshipped throughout the Vorbergland and in isolated other places.
- Traditionally, Katya uses her beauty to disarm others, i.e. bring down the defences of others and expose them to experiences they would not normally contemplate.
- Katya is analogous to Atharti, an Elven goddess so beautiful it is said she could tempt any Elf from the Path they were walking, no matter how lost they may be. Both Atharti and Katya unlock suppressed emotions of mortals, stopping them from becoming fixated or obsessed with a single way of thinking.
- The Katyan Cult is not large, and is not dominated by any gender or sex.
- In the Empire, Katya's temples are often associated with brothels, red-light zones, playhouses, and any place where sex is purchased.
- Her clerics actively seek those lost to the divine influence of the gods (or Elves stuck on a path, which they see are the same thing).
- This includes looking out for Chaos Cultists, who they do not see as irrevocably lost.
- Katyans, in general, if not specifically, see those singularly devoted to Sigmar or Ulric or Taal (and similar gods) as no better or worse than those lost to, say, Slaanesh, Khorne, Nurgle, or Tzeentch (this, obviously, is not openly discussed).
- Katyans usually 'break' devoted and lost souls by unlocking feelings that stand contrary to how their chosen God demands they act, opening them up to experiencing a different way of life.
- The Katyans take a different approach according to the cultist at hand, using all manner of techniques and some particularly unique blessings, and will put years in if necessary.
- One of their most commonly used tools is making others fall in love with them. This can have all manner of horrendous outcomes.
- Katyans are forbidden to use violence against those who are not irrevocably lost. They are forbidden to know love or experience jealousy (good luck with that!). They are forbidden to set foot in the blessed temples of other gods. They are forbidden to influence others for their own benefit, and may never take a position of power for themselves.
- Traditionally, Katya uses her beauty to disarm others, i.e. bring down the defences of others and expose them to experiences they would not normally contemplate.
- Katya is analogous to Atharti, an Elven goddess so beautiful it is said she could tempt any Elf from the Path they were walking, no matter how lost they may be. Both Atharti and Katya unlock suppressed emotions of mortals, stopping them from becoming fixated or obsessed with a single way of thinking.
- The Katyan Cult is not large, and is not dominated by any gender or sex.
- In the Empire, Katya's temples are often associated with brothels, red-light zones, playhouses, and any place where sex is purchased.
- Her clerics actively seek those lost to the divine influence of the gods (or Elves stuck on a path, which they see are the same thing).
- This includes looking out for Chaos Cultists, who they do not see as irrevocably lost.
- Katyans, in general, if not specifically, see those singularly devoted to Sigmar or Ulric or Taal (and similar gods) as no better or worse than those lost to, say, Slaanesh, Khorne, Nurgle, or Tzeentch (this, obviously, is not openly discussed).
- Katyans usually 'break' devoted and lost souls by unlocking feelings that stand contrary to how their chosen God demands they act, opening them up to experiencing a different way of life.
- The Katyans take a different approach according to the cultist at hand, using all manner of techniques and some particularly unique blessings, and will put years in if necessary.
- One of their most commonly used tools is making others fall in love with them. This can have all manner of horrendous outcomes.
- Katyans are forbidden to use violence against those who are not irrevocably lost. They are forbidden to know love or experience jealousy (good luck with that!). They are forbidden to set foot in the blessed temples of other gods. They are forbidden to influence others for their own benefit, and may never take a position of power for themselves.
- Location
- Utrecht
I hope that does not appear in quest.
Because it's ... umm... rubbish.
- Location
- Australia
Probably why it never showed up in canon. I think the Atharti parallel's fine though.
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Barak Varr seemed more interested in exploring broad solutions rather than fixater on propping up a human polity.
With Mathilde the expectation would be that she'd just make things work because Mathilde so effectively giving a blank check wasn't a problem. Anyone else wouldn't benefit from that.
- Location
- Utrecht
Actually, it seems like an entry level chaos undivided cult.
Seduce the faithful away from their gods and then draw them into a net.
Seduce the faithful away from their gods and then draw them into a net.
- Location
- Australia
Assuming it's Atharti in a fancy wig, it's not too unfitting. She is Cytharai and they tend to operate a little shadier than the Cadai.
NavySeel
"I don't know what I'm doing."
- Location
- Places
And then there's the whole rumors of Atharti being Slaanesh.
It's like Scooby Doo, pull off a mask to reveal Atharti, then another for Slaanesh.
infinityDivided
Prince Of Doom
- Location
- USA
So hi, just hopped on the Quest recently. I know next to nothing about WHF other than it's not quite as bad as WH40K, but I was lured by the appeal of ridiculously funny rolls.
Anyway, I had a question about Kasmir; after Drakenhof, he disappeared:
I apologize if this came up before, but to be frank I couldn't find a threadmark on this and there's almost 300,000 posts.
Anyway, I had a question about Kasmir; after Drakenhof, he disappeared:
Then, when it was being determined who was staying on the Council, he rolled really well and apparently came back after spending most of a year emotionally recovering:
But every time he comes up after that, it's as if he never returned in the first place:
I apologize if this came up before, but to be frank I couldn't find a threadmark on this and there's almost 300,000 posts.
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shepsquared
Erratic Aussie
- Location
- Melbourne, Australia
He didn't go back to the council. Instead he stayed in Sylvania and focused on helping its people, which has apparently started paying off fairly recently with that Council of of Manhorak.