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Ah, not this again. How many times have we gone over the Shallya debate and how it applies to EIke by this point? Let's actually wait to see how she turns out before we start assuming she wants to never kill anyone even by proxy. Not that it would impede her job significantly considering how broad being a Grey Wizard is.
 
Right but the bargaining argument makes no sense to me, why would backfill increase our bargaining power more than Eonir books? Which is a more attractive offer, "Hey I want to bargain with you I have a ton of books you either already have or could easily buy if you wanted them" or "Hey I want to bargain with you I have a small number of books that I am the sole source of."

Not to mention that the books we get through backfill are books we are likely to be able to get free copies of after getting copying access to other libraries. So it increases our bargaining power less than Eonir and it decreases the payout from successfully bargaining.
Eonir books are rare, but breadth of subject material matters. Libraries won't care about Eonir books unless those books cover enough subject materials they care about to make it worth their while. Back-fill gives us far more full subjects than the Eonir option. Not just Imperial books either, but Dwarven books too, which themselves have a level of exoticism.

Most libraries run on a limited budget and can't buy all the books they want, and each book they do buy is increased expense and effort to maintain it. At a certain point it's better to partner with us for books they could theoretically buy for themselves.

Back-fill gets us Obscure, Antiquarian, and Esoteric books. These books are progressively less available and more difficult to acquire. Having them does a lot to make our library more attractive. It's very unlikely a library has the 4 DF necessary to get +5 Dwarven books in a single subject. The Imperial ones would also be attractive as other nations would have as hard a time getting them as we do Bretonnian books. Excellent for partnering with non-Imperial libraries.
 
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Eonir books are rare, but breadth of subject material matters. Libraries won't care about Eonir books unless those books cover enough subject materials they care about to make it worth their while. Back-fill gives us far more full subjects than the Eonir option. Not just Imperial books either, but Dwarven books too, which themselves have a level of exoticism.

Most libraries run on a limited budget and can't buy all the books they want, and each book they do buy is increased expense and effort to maintain it. At a certain point it's better to partner with us for books they could theoretically buy for themselves.

Back-fill gets us Obscure, Antiquarian, and Esoteric books. These books are progressively less available and more difficult to acquire. Having them does a lot to make our library more attractive. It's very unlikely a library has the 4 DF necessary to get +5 Dwarven books in a single subject. The Imperial ones would also be attractive as other nations would have as hard a time getting them as we do Bretonnian books. Excellent for partnering with non-Imperial libraries.
Supplementing your point here, at this stage getting more books also does more for our reputation than rare books, as in the beginning, if we don't have the numbers we're not going to look like a library, we're going to look like a large cave with some random Wizards collection of esoterica in it.
 
first thought: how do people notice this stuff so quick? its one thing when an update is imminent, but people seem to find this stuff regardless of when.

Second thought: I think Boney is getting annoyed by that question if they want to preempt it.

Just concerned I'll come up with a different answer if someone else asks and I forget I've already answered it.
 
@Boney, I have some questions.

1. I reread the update where Mathilde decided Order for her library and that got me wondering, who's in charge of the library's organisation? Mathilde has the final word of course but is someone else doing the main work of deciding categories and the like?
2. I'm trying to figure out how receptive the Library of Mourning would be to partnering with ours. Is the right way to do that by asking you outright, making a guess based on the information available to us, or taking the action and finding out?
3. How viable is bribing human head librarians to partner with us?
4. One of the extracurricular subjects we can learn is teaching apprentices. Is that something we can finish in one turn or is it more of a /3 skill? Asking because I want to get the skill before Eike becomes a senior apprentice.
 
@Boney, I have some questions.

1. I reread the update where Mathilde decided Order for her library and that got me wondering, who's in charge of the library's organisation? Mathilde has the final word of course but is someone else doing the main work of deciding categories and the like?

Mathilde laid out the organisation framework here and the library is currently small enough that sorting out the edge cases is something Mathilde can do in her spare time.

2. I'm trying to figure out how receptive the Library of Mourning would be to partnering with ours. Is the right way to do that by asking you outright, making a guess based on the information available to us, or taking the action and finding out?

Tabula rasa. The last time it was even a possibility for them was pre-Sundering, so it would need to be introduced to them as an entirely new idea, which puts it in 'try it and find out' territory rather than something that can be gamed out ahead of time.

3. How viable is bribing human head librarians to partner with us?

Depends on the individual, but in general, probably very viable.

4. One of the extracurricular subjects we can learn is teaching apprentices. Is that something we can finish in one turn or is it more of a /3 skill? Asking because I want to get the skill before Eike becomes a senior apprentice.

You'd have a good chance of getting the basic level in a single action.
 
I think the Library of Mourning should be the next library we attempt to partner with. We want all of their books and we can't get them anywhere else, it'd be very prestigious in the eyes of other institutions we try to partner with, and we're the only way for the Library of Mourning to get non-Eonir books, which'll make us more attractive in their eyes. (Back-fill becomes especially valuable in this regard.)
 
I think the Library of Mourning should be the next library we attempt to partner with. We want all of their books and we can't get them anywhere else, it'd be very prestigious in the eyes of other institutions we try to partner with, and we're the only way for the Library of Mourning to get non-Eonir books, which'll make us more attractive in their eyes. (Back-fill becomes especially valuable in this regard.)
If you wanted to do that, then 'Backfill' as the next Library purchase becomes even more important, as they're quite likely to want to catch up on a few thousand years worth of developments across any number of topics.
 
I think the Library of Mourning should be the next library we attempt to partner with. We want all of their books and we can't get them anywhere else, it'd be very prestigious in the eyes of other institutions we try to partner with, and we're the only way for the Library of Mourning to get non-Eonir books, which'll make us more attractive in their eyes. (Back-fill becomes especially valuable in this regard.)
Do we already have enough to offer in our own library? I mean there's a decent collection, but what would be of particular interest to the more reluctant Eonir while also being acceptable for trade on our part (i.e. not too restricted)? Because at the very least we have to be reciprocal with the restrictions and as of now the Eonir don't even let us read their magical tomes. I'd say we do Vlag first and try the Library of Mourning once we have actually proven that we are here for more than just to loot their library. So ~2 turns from now.
 
What's our income? We get 200 per turn from the EIC, but is there anything else? Our fief's taxes don't make their way into our pocket so I prefer not to count that.

Do we already have enough to offer in our own library? I mean there's a decent collection, but what would be of particular interest to the more reluctant Eonir while also being acceptable for trade on our part (i.e. not too restricted)? Because at the very least we have to be reciprocal with the restrictions and as of now the Eonir don't even let us read their magical tomes. I'd say we do Vlag first and try the Library of Mourning once we have actually proven that we are here for more than just to loot their library. So ~2 turns from now.
I don't think them disallowing magic tome access is something to describe as "even", because that's a pretty high level of access that we don't grant to anyone either. They give us access to everything else, which is a lot.

Our library has a bunch of stuff they'd be interested in, but the more stuff it has, the more interested they'll be. Of particular things they'd be interested in that we'd be willing to share are books on the Empire, Ulric, beastmen, and the Karaz Ankor.

I forgot about Vlag. Vlag's a good idea. They'll give us all books they can, which would be a lot. It's a karak, it was a trade nexus, it bordered Kislev, and it may even have Fire Spire stuff. There's no easier way to bulk up our library.
 
We get 200 per turn from the EIC, but is there anything else?
No. There isn't anything else at this time. In theory the EIC income should very slowly grow over time, if its growth gets simulated.
I don't think them disallowing magic tome access is something to describe as "even",
Fair. I thought of editing that little word out after posting, but it didn't seem worth the effort.

Edit: Anyway, the "even" refers to the "not even read (yet)" part, not the "not even the magical books" part. We know that we'll get better access sooner or later.
 
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The average income of a Wizard Lord according to 2nd Edition WFRP Core Rulebook page 104 is 300-800 GC yearly. Unfortunately for Mathilde, she isn't employed by anyone but herself, and the money she gets for her organisations is so that she can pay the salary of her employees and get the basic resources needed to keep things functioning. Even with just her EIC income, that's 400 GC per year, which is solidly within the margin. As a point of comparison, we are solidly in the top 1% of Imperial society in terms of personal income. The only people who get a consistently higher income are Greater Nobles.
 
Unfortunately for Mathilde, she isn't employed by anyone but herself,
I believe once we lay out the foundation there will be options to get funding from everybody interested in return for promising results, i.e. common way to fund research projects. We can draw salary form that if we need it.
 
I believe once we lay out the foundation there will be options to get funding from everybody interested in return for promising results, i.e. common way to fund research projects. We can draw salary form that if we need it.
What would be the best go-to sources? To mind come the Imperial treasury, Kislev, Karak Eight Peaks, Karaz-a-Karak, Karak Azul, the Cult of Ulric, Middenland, non-magic focused Eonir Houses, Queen Marisith and maybe some of the Colleges.
 
[PURCHASE] Romance: Esoteric Imperial + Extensive Bretonnian + Extensive and Esoteric Dwarven + Esoteric Eonir (550gc), Overly Vulgar Romance: Extensive and Esoteric Imperial + Extensive and Esoteric Dwarven + Extensive Bretonnian + Extensive and Esoteric Eonir (800gc)


 
What would be the best go-to sources? To mind come the Imperial treasury, Kislev, Karak Eight Peaks, Karaz-a-Karak, Karak Azul, the Cult of Ulric, Middenland, non-magic focused Eonir Houses, Queen Marisith and maybe some of the Colleges.
Hard to say which we can go to since each would have different demands and Lay the foundation will determine what we can promise to actually do.

For example; I expect draining Sylvania of dhar would get us funding from either Stirland or Empire as whole for example. But can we actually d that? Who knows.
 
The Marriage of Prince Kazrik and Princess Edda, Part 1
[*] Kazrik and Edda
[*] Paranoth
[+] Social interaction initiated by someone else

In the Karaz Ankor, the marriage of a prince and a princess is not quite as uncommon now as it was before Kazador's many children were unleashed. But a marriage between the heir apparent of an Old Hold and a very well-respected princess of a Young Hold would be some of the biggest news of the decade even before their involvement in the story of Karak Eight Peaks is factored in. Compounding that even further is that between the two of them they have had dealings with just about every Dwarven King and Elector Count in the Old World and made generally positive impressions across the board in the process. As the guest list starts to swell and Hammerers and Greatswords across the continent begin to plan a trip to its southern edge, Karak Eight Peaks and Barak Varr begin to turn their eyes to security precautions to avoid a repeat of the attack on the Okral. Death Pass swarms with Undumgi, Blood River with Winter Wolves, Skull River with Rangers, and Black Fire Pass with patrols from Averland and Karak Angazhar. The Karaz Ankor is determined for this to be a joyous celebration, tinged as little as possible with the violence and tragedy that is too often the theme of Dwarven history.

Zhufbar finds itself barraged with enquiries as to the state of the Black Waters canal, and though they must report that they are not yet ready to allow passage between the Reik and Black Gulf basins, their Steward takes the opportunity to personalize a reply to each inquiry to inform exactly how much time the project would save on a trip between their location and Karak Eight Peaks once it is completed, guaranteeing it as a common topic at the wedding among those that had to travel via Black Fire Pass. Also taking advantage of the opportunity is Barak Varr's Slotchokri, the Riverine Shipwrights Guild, who have the lead ship of the newly-invented Waterfall-class passenger monitors run ragged taking passengers from Black Fire Pass to Ulrikadrin, showing off its speed and comfort to the many prominent individuals taking the trip.

There are two significant days in Dwarven courtship: the Barazdeg, Day of Promise, and the Harazdeg, Day of Joining. The typical Barazdeg consists of a day of festivities which culminates in pre-approved suitors presenting gifts to the maiden and her Clan for them to evaluate their worthiness, and the length of time between it and the Harazdeg can tell you a lot about the circumstances of the marriage. In this case, the Harazdeg takes place the day after the Barazdeg, which is a strong indication that the groom has already been selected and there is no need for the engaged couple to get to know each other. That or the bride's clan is utterly desperate for money or allies and needs to seal the agreement as hastily as possible, but that there's only one suitor that will be allowed to present gifts at this Barazdeg makes the circumstances of this marriage clear to all, even those who have not heard the gossip of the Prince and Princess getting a headstart on their nuptial duties and ending up with a strict and undelayable biological deadline for their marriage. There was a time millennia ago when this would be a scandal, but one of the many changes the Time of Woes made to Dwarven society is that it has become entirely willing to turn a blind eye to even the most heavily pregnant bride.

As the many guests gather in Karag Rhyn on the Barazdeg, you find a conveniently shadowed niche from which to monitor the many guests as they enter the Grimbrow Clan Hall. There's someone from just about every Dwarfhold there is, of course, including innumerable representatives from the many Valley Kings of the Vaults. Just about every Elector Count has sent at least a representative and a few are here in person, most of them traveling with an Elder from the local Imperial Dwarf population. Ostland is the only exception, likely because they're too far from any populated mountains to have any involvement in the affairs of the Karaz Ankor. Kislev has sent a diplomat who has travelled the considerable distance with the nervous-looking delegation from Karak Vlag, the unnatural-seeming leanness of whom is even more pronounced when there are so many other Dwarves to compare against. The Royarch of Bretonnia has sent a representative, as have the Dukes of Carcassonne, Parravon, Montfort, and Gisoreux, and their ceremonial armour stands out less in a Dwarven crowd than in most human ones. Most of the Tilean city-states have sent someone, as once it became known that Tobaro and Miragliano would be sending someone nobody wanted to be left out. Nobody from Estalia, which isn't really surprising as they're too far west to get involved with the affairs of any Dwarfhold but Barak Varr. And at first you didn't think anyone had been sent from Marienburg, but then you spot a Dwarf in the red and blue of House Fooger, the only Dwarven family on Marienburg's Directorate.

But states aren't the only ones who have sent someone, and you spot among the growing crowd someone that would otherwise be rather difficult to nail down a meeting with and make a beeline towards them as they sip thoughtfully from a flagon of ale.

"Magister Patriarch," you greet him. "Have you received the report I sent to your Order?"

He smiles at you. "Lady Magister, a very brief summary only. The staff at the College always have so very much they wish to report, and the kestrel they use only has so much carrying capacity. They relayed that the issue was an Athel Loren warhost, which was defeated in some manner."

"Broadly correct. It was a Dryad warweald aligned with Coeddil."

He coughs into his flagon and only just manages to keep from propelling some of it across the crowd. "Drycha?"

"Who?"

He blinks at you as he wipes his mouth. "Was it led by an Ulgu Branchwraith?"

"Yes, but I didn't get her name before I cut her in half."

He stares at you for a while, and sighs when he realizes you're serious. "I think we need more kestrels. Can you tell me the full report?"

You give him the full story, from your investigations in Gryphon's Wood to your dealings with Kislev to the showdown in the Shirokij. Paranoth nods along, asking the occasional question to clarify matters. "Whether the Schattenwald is itself evil or merely full of it is a matter of much debate," he says as you wrap up, "but it's a distinction lost on most. It is the nature of a society built on farming to be opposed to the forest, so there's no benefit of the doubt to be found for the Schattenwald. But those evils, whether they be native or invading, are largely focused in Ostland, so Ostermark likes to pretend they don't have to worry about it. Do you know much about the Boyar that Drycha was hunting?"

"Boyar Kalashinivik of Resvynhaf. The Praag branch of that family was aligned with the Tzarina Kattarin the Bloody and were purged, but the Resvynhaf branch was spared. The Tsarevich and the Ice Witches are going to be investigating him to decide whether that was a mistake."

"It probably was if Drycha's after him. Either he has something that he shouldn't, or he has blood in him that he shouldn't. Royal blood is always potent, and magic doesn't care if it's human or vampire, Kislevite or Nehekharan."

"You think Drycha has her own agenda, rather than operating for Athel Loren as a whole?"

He gives you a strange look. "Of course, the same agenda she's always had."

"And what is that?"

He looks baffled. "How do you know Coeddil's name, but not- oh, did Laurelorn tell you about him?" You nod. "It makes sense that they would be a bit behind on things. Of its Treeman Elders, Athel Loren only has Durthu left, as Adanhu was killed and Coeddil corrupted by the endless battles against Morghur." He frowns. "Well, apparently endless. Are you sure it was him you saw up at Karag Dum?"

"I am, and so are the very many people that were also credited with my paper on the subject."

"Mm. By all accounts he's impossible to mistake for anything else. I do wish you'd been able to get some hard answers about what that was all about."

You manage to keep from bristling. "So do I, but my duty was to the Expedition, rather than my curiosity."

He nods. "Of course. No criticism intended. What was I getting at?"

"Coeddil and Drycha?"

"That's right. Coeddil attempted regicide, and was imprisoned somewhere within Athel Loren. Drycha has been scouring the continent for magical power ever since, in what we assume is an effort to free him. Many shrines and temples in Bretonnia and the Empire have been looted by her forces over the centuries, and the Amber Brotherhood have fended off several attacks by her on the Amber Hills. She fails more than she succeeds, sometimes by the efforts of defenders, sometimes due to being pursued by Athel Loren loyalists. But just like the one that corrupted her master, her nature grants her the privilege of coming back no matter how many times she is struck down, and every success takes her closer to her eventual goal."

"Well, that's worrying."

He shrugs. "If Drycha succeeds, it would probably be bad for a lot of people in the short term, but it might also bring Athel Loren to the negotiating table with their neighbours. They'd need help, and we want them to stop going on rampages every spring. In the trail of every conflagration is new growth that was impossible before." He smiles, and then looks into his now-empty flagon. "Best of luck to you and Grunfeld," he says as he moves away, making a beeline towards the many barrels forming a formidable wall on one side of the hall. You return your gaze to the crowd, and spot one part of it has already noticed that you're now unentangled and is coming towards you with as much determination as Paranoth was to the ale.

"Mathilde, darling," Empress Heidi says as she swoops upon you, giving you a brief courtly hug. "It's always such a pleasure. Can we talk somewhere private? Very private, for preference?"

As the attendants catch up and begin to buzz with unasked-for comments on this, you spot one of the many Princes whose name begins with 'Kaz' and after racking your mind for the rest of it you get permission from them to borrow their Clan Hall, which would be currently empty but still heavily guarded. You lead the way for the Empress, discarding her courtiers in the hall and her Greatswords outside the Clan Hall to mingle with the Hammerers.

"Such an abrupt departure is the sort of thing that starts rumours," you observe as the doors swing shut and you run your Magesight over the room, confirming it's as empty as it seems.

She waves a hand dismissively. "Those rumours exist for every Empress, doubly so for the attractive ones. At least with you there's no way for it to cast doubt on Mandred's legitimacy."

With a mental shrug you accept that. You've never been one to care too much about gossip, and there's so much worse that can be and often is said about any given Wizard. "What is it you wanted to talk about?"

"This," she says, producing a familiar wooden horse from nowhere in particular with a gentle spark of Ranaldian energy.

"Has it stopped working?" you ask, taking it from her and frowning down at it. The Ulgu within does look... degraded? No, more eroded, gradually shifted from constant pressure that shouldn't exist.

"Quite the opposite, and that's what worries me."

You neigh at it, and it gives a rather vigorous whinny in response, far louder and more lively than the one you had weaved into it years ago. "Ah," you say faintly.

"Mandred's interested in knights these days, and he'd have one of his dolls atop that and having it defeat all kinds of enemies. He used to complain that it wasn't 'bold' enough. Then it started getting louder and longer."

"And I take it there haven't been any visits from Grey Order enchanters." She shakes her head. "Didn't think so. This is entirely instinctive work. It bothered him, and the Ulgu in it responded to his will. Just a little bit, but over time that's enough for such a simple change. Has he been drawing in any energy?"

"No, thankfully. I'd have brought him with me if he was."

"Then I think you already know what this means."

"I know. I'm not here to talk to my Grey Wizard friend, I'm here to talk to Mandred's Godmother. You're..." She looks at you, considering. "Deceiver and Protector by nature, right?"

You consider that. "I suppose so. Night Prowler situationally, Gambler when I need to and when I want to get His attention."

"Right. You're sort of balanced, you have a relationship with all of Him. But my relationship is entirely with the Gambler. Even when I deceive, I'm... well, look at me. The stakes don't get higher than this, do they? That's the Ranald I know. I take risks, the boldest and most stylish ones I can find, and He's right there alongside me and together we ride out the aftermath and pick the pockets of those who couldn't. And I think that's why Mandred is the way he is now. Just as he shaped that horse, I shaped him."

"Or it could be purely inherited. Just as you are a magic-user, so is he. Or environmental, we get a lot of Apprentices out of Altdorf and some think it's something to do with the city itself, not just because the locals are familiar with us or because we're there to spot them." Or it could be you. There's only two children you've been involved in the lives of, and now both of them have turned out to have the potential to be Wizards. What are the odds that that's sheer coincidence?

She considers that, chewing on her lip. "Well, even if that's true, it doesn't change that I need your input. I've been thinking about this ever since I noticed it, and it's not fretting about it I've been doing. I've been looking forward to it. I should be worried for my son, and don't get me wrong, I am, but more than that I'm looking forward to what might happen. And I'll roll those dice again and again until they all come up ones and I go to meet the father-in-law of our mutual friend, but for Mandred? For my son?" She grimaces. "Part of me keeps saying that he's not a chip I should be anteing, but another part of me keeps saying that he's already in the game and this just gives him one more tool to play it with. He's got the wrong father to live a safe life no matter what I do, so maybe I should see to it that he's as well-armed as possible. And even if it comes out in the worst way and it ruins any chance of him being Emperor, he's still going to be the next Grand Prince of Reikland, and we've had a hundred Emperors and thousands of Elector Counts but never a Wizard Elector, and that could do so much. The Empire would still have Marienburg if we trusted Wizards more, and Mandred could fix that. You're his godmother, you're a Wizard, and you have a more well-rounded relationship with our God than I do. And you're the only one, apart from Him, that I can talk to about this. Please, give me your advice."

You take a deep breath and do your best to think. Your first instinct is that Mandred being a Wizard wouldn't work because that would almost certainly make it impossible for him to be Emperor, so he should be fitted with magic dampeners now so that he never develops the ability to call on the Winds at all. Having been discovered so early, it would be possible to completely stamp out the capability in him before he even realizes it's there, which would mean he wouldn't be tempted to remove the dampeners and dabble with the ability. But the idea of taking someone who has the chance to see and touch the beauty of the Winds and smothering that gift in them is one you would feel great horror at recommending. You would rather lose your eyes and hands than your capacity for magic, so how could you justify crippling your godchild?

And besides that, it would be far from the end of the world if someone else became Emperor. Grand Duke Feuerbach of Talabecland is the most likely candidate now, but he's also a decade older than Luitpold and unlikely to outlive him. Given time for the younger Elector Counts to build a legend for themselves... Emperor Boris of Middenland, the man who made friendship with Laurelorn possible? Emperor Wolfram of Ostermark, who is responsible for the push for Dwarven infrastructure that is on the verge of revolutionizing travel in the Old World? Empress Roswita of Stirland, even? Who's to say that any of these would be worse than Emperor Mandred II? The boy is seven, it's far too early to have any idea of how good an Emperor he could be. And Heidi's not wrong about what a Wizard Elector Count could accomplish. Every Wizard lives with the knowledge that their right to exist is based solely on the Articles of Imperial Magic, and if that is withdrawn - as all Emperors have the power to do, as one Emperor has done - then the life of every Wizard is forfeit. It has been less than a lifetime since the Colleges suffered a fifteen-year siege as a result of their tenuous legal protections being withdrawn. But Grand Prince Mandred of Reikland, a Magister of the Colleges? He could lay down legal protections that could prevent the Colleges from ever having to depend on walls and enchantments to survive again.

Or there's a third path, the same path as his mother walks. He could be taught to wield the divine magic of Ranald, and cement even further the influence that your God will have over the potential future Emperor. But this might be the riskiest option of all, as while the Empress might be able to pass unnoticed as a worshipper of Ranald, a potential future Emperor himself would be under far greater scrutiny, possibly that of Sigmar Himself. Mandred as an anointed of Ranald would need to inherit every scrap of cunning from his mother to have any hope of passing unnoticed. And being outed as a worshipper of Ranald - more than that, as someone so favoured by Ranald as to be granted the power to wield miracles - would be at least as bad as being a Wizard for his chances of becoming Emperor, and could even damage his claim to inheriting the title of Grand Prince of Reikland.

You turn the horse over in your hands as you try to reach a decision.



[ ] Nullify
Mandred should add a few subtle magic dampeners to the regalia of a Prince to smother his potential to use magic before it has a chance to bloom, and you and Heidi will have to learn to live with the crippling of a child on your consciences.
[ ] Wizard
When Mandred starts to interact with ambient Winds, he should be trained as a Wizard. For the son of the Emperor, all sorts of allowances could be made to keep the disruption to his life as minimal as possible.
[ ] Ranald
Mandred should be fully inducted into the Cult of Ranald and taught to wield His power, and taught to keep anyone else from finding out he has the capacity to do so.
[ ] Other (write in)



- There will be a one hour moratorium.
- Heidi will take Mathilde's input on this matter very seriously, but is not guaranteed to follow her advice.
- "Oh come on, first Eike, now Mandred?" Yeah, I know. I'm still struggling to believe it myself. The dice, it seems, have no obligation to plausibility.
- The wedding will continue next update, which will bring chances to mingle with some other guests.
 
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I'm really in favour of the Wizard option here.

At least partially because wizardry is something that would seem to help a ruler a lot more than Ranaldian miracles, but also because I don't think the mindset that channeling Ranald promotes wouod be good for a ruler.

For his own sake and the Empire's, Wizard Mandred is the way to go.

Particularly because Mathilde will be in a place to help make sure it's done right, as she has a lot of influence within the Colleges.

Even 'just' as Elector Count, a wizard Mandred could be an enormous force for good. Imagine him as a gold wizard able to cast Law of Logic to help make decisions, or a Light able to cast Inspiration.

In OOC grounds, a wizard Mandred seems like it would be a source of more interesting/relevant plots that Mathilde can get involved in (or choose not to).
 
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