There's also a Blood Dragon that drained a Bonegrinder who apparently only needs to drink blood once a century, which from a Witch Hunter's perspective adds up to roughly the same thing. That example also suggests that it's possible that vampires who have drained lesser monsters may also have long gaps between needing to feed.
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There's also a Blood Dragon that drained a Bonegrinder who apparently only needs to drink blood once a century, which from a Witch Hunter's perspective adds up to roughly the same thing. That example also suggests that it's possible that vampires who have drained lesser monsters may also have long gaps between needing to feed.
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Yes, Meloch the Giant Killer, a Blood Dragon. I was mentioing people who could fully ignore the Thirst, not people who could stave it off for centuries. There's probably a bunch more to add to that list if that was the case.
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That's also present in Night's Dark Masters, but it's a gradient between hours for the newly spawned and months for the most experienced.
Keep in mind that we do not know no other vampires have killed a dragon, there just aren't any legends about them. Given that the entire point of the Blood dragons is to live in imitation of their founder I would be surprised if not a single one of them managed to eat a dragon or some comparatively magical being.
That said any witch finder unlucky enough to meet an unthirsting vampire is probably dead anyway so the point is moot.
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The implication is not that it was just a Dragon they killed. Both Zacharias and Abhorash drank the blood of an elder dragon. I'm guessing anywhere between Great to Emperor. The amount of these dragons that exist is extraordinarily low, the amount of vampires that can find and kill them is lower.
There are no legends about Zacharias. We know he doesn't thirst because it's mentioned that he doesn't due to killing a dragon, but few people know that he doesn't thirst. Hell, he might not have even killed the dragon in DL just yet! He kills Melchior soon after consuming the dragon's blood, and he defeats Melchior in the early 2500's.
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And then there's the oft-rumoured but little-known Lahmian subspecies, said to be able to absorb life energies through erosion of the faith of those with whom they spend extended time in private, able to stave off the need for blood for years or decades at a time. Indeed, so subtle is the effect that neither party may be aware of the drain occurring,
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I was mostly referring to the "barely post medieval hellhole" thing. Because that doesn't match up with what little we know of Ulthuan, for instance.
The threat of Sylvania wasn't that it contained vampires, it was always that it contained easily summoned giant undead armies. There are almost certainly more Vampires outside of Sylvania than within.
That's not a great way to determine if someone is a vampire or not though. Most people aren't resistant to large bits of metal.
Damn those Lahmians! Good thing Mathilde showed them what's for, and now they don't have any highly placed and extremely trusted agents anymore.
Now to make sure there's no Lahmian infiltration with the Elves...
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I don't understand the joke.
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This is part of the running "Mathilde is secretly a vampire" thread joke, playing off the fact that we seem to be around for crises of faith among our friends and colleagues distressingly often.
Speaking of Sylvania there have been two unfinished projects that have been gnawing at me. The first is the fact that we have two notable vampires hanging around and tying up Stirland's armies that are in need of eliminating. The other one is the investigation into the deaths of the Okral at Skull River by looking into the nearby Skaven clans.
So rather than putting all of our focus on the waystone project, instead we put our primary focus in the next turn into completing our unfinished business and make the waystones the secondary focus for the turn. These tasks are the sort that are better completed sooner rather than later and that Mathilde is extremely well suited to completing.
The first business is Sylvania. Most of the notable vampires have been crushed but there's still two left to go. This means a Stirland army is busy playing blockade rather than being free to go around and stomp gribblies.
The two vampires are the Lahmians Mihnea and Ioana. Mihnea is in Mikalsdorf and doesn't actually know any magic. Ioana is in Waldenhof we learned doesn't know how to control the bats she summons. A direct attack would likely be costly to the army but Mathilde is very well suited to assassinating these vampires. In fact Mathilde has already gotten extremely close to Mihnea.
I believe we might even be able to get the two of them in the one action since we have previously had [ ] Sylvania: Investigate the Lahmians of Waldenhof and Mikalsdorf, and if you can, teach them why their kind usually remains behind the scenes. As an available action.
The other part of our unfinished business is the ambush on Skull River. We never got conclusive evidence, but there's a lot of things that point to Skaven as being a likely culprit. The scavenged material from the Empire, the use of Skaven gunpowder, a tricky mechanical device, hurts the Dwarves but no one gains anything, and it required impressive information gathering abilities. While there are other possible culprits, Mathilde is uniquely capable of investigating this one.
By investigating the Skaven clans near Skull River we can either eliminate a possible culprit or discover the correct one. My research on the subject has indicated that Clan Volkn may both be canon to the quest, relatively close and a have interests in explosives. Clan Rictus is a less likely one that also came up in my searching.
Whatever the case, Mathilde has successfully infiltrated the Skaven previously, knows the language and has her divine coin to aid. She's likely the only one in the Empire who could be anywhere near as successful in determining if the Skaven were behind the Okral attack. Also if nothing else she can probably steal some stuff or kill someone to make it worth the time.
Basically the core of the plan would be something like this.
[ ] Plan Unfinished Business
-[ ] Involve yourself in the Okral Investigation (Skaven investigation, investigate skaven near Skull River)
-[ ] Involve yourself in the Sylvanian campaign (Vampire assassination)
-[ ] The Night Prowler
Goal: Kill the notable vampires in Sylvania and hunt down the Skaven clans near skull river to see if they were behind the attack on the Okral.
So rather than putting all of our focus on the waystone project, instead we put our primary focus in the next turn into completing our unfinished business and make the waystones the secondary focus for the turn. These tasks are the sort that are better completed sooner rather than later and that Mathilde is extremely well suited to completing.
The first business is Sylvania. Most of the notable vampires have been crushed but there's still two left to go. This means a Stirland army is busy playing blockade rather than being free to go around and stomp gribblies.
The two vampires are the Lahmians Mihnea and Ioana. Mihnea is in Mikalsdorf and doesn't actually know any magic. Ioana is in Waldenhof we learned doesn't know how to control the bats she summons. A direct attack would likely be costly to the army but Mathilde is very well suited to assassinating these vampires. In fact Mathilde has already gotten extremely close to Mihnea.
I believe we might even be able to get the two of them in the one action since we have previously had [ ] Sylvania: Investigate the Lahmians of Waldenhof and Mikalsdorf, and if you can, teach them why their kind usually remains behind the scenes. As an available action.
The other part of our unfinished business is the ambush on Skull River. We never got conclusive evidence, but there's a lot of things that point to Skaven as being a likely culprit. The scavenged material from the Empire, the use of Skaven gunpowder, a tricky mechanical device, hurts the Dwarves but no one gains anything, and it required impressive information gathering abilities. While there are other possible culprits, Mathilde is uniquely capable of investigating this one.
By investigating the Skaven clans near Skull River we can either eliminate a possible culprit or discover the correct one. My research on the subject has indicated that Clan Volkn may both be canon to the quest, relatively close and a have interests in explosives. Clan Rictus is a less likely one that also came up in my searching.
Whatever the case, Mathilde has successfully infiltrated the Skaven previously, knows the language and has her divine coin to aid. She's likely the only one in the Empire who could be anywhere near as successful in determining if the Skaven were behind the Okral attack. Also if nothing else she can probably steal some stuff or kill someone to make it worth the time.
Basically the core of the plan would be something like this.
[ ] Plan Unfinished Business
-[ ] Involve yourself in the Okral Investigation (Skaven investigation, investigate skaven near Skull River)
-[ ] Involve yourself in the Sylvanian campaign (Vampire assassination)
-[ ] The Night Prowler
Goal: Kill the notable vampires in Sylvania and hunt down the Skaven clans near skull river to see if they were behind the attack on the Okral.
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They aren't Mathilde's business anymore.
I would argue more strenuously, but there's just no way the thread votes for these when we're struggling to accomplish what we want to with the Waystones whilst using all of our available AP.
Speaking of which, I'm a bit more sanguine about just going all in on Waystones for a few turns than I was before. The reasoning that we ought to be spending 3-4 AP a turn on our "main job" is that it's what our employers generally expect. But Mathilde has entered this job whilst simultaneously having to gather together what the Empire knows about Waystones, and then also maintain the illusion that she had this the whole time, so it makes sense that she's expending more efforts than the usual "employer expectations" model.
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Hey now, Boney totally confirmed vampire!Mathilde as true.
/joke But yes, it was a reference to another great bit of thread madness (Mathilde is a vampire), combined with the observation that all of Mathilde's bosses lose their faith (Abelheim in Sigmar, Belegar in Thorgrim, Borek in... well he was pretty lost in general at the end).
deathofrats0808
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I read that as Mathilde waiting until Mihnea left for his battle with Ioana and then nicking his stuff. It certainly didn't seem like she was breaking in while he was in the room or anything.
There were two parts bolded in the quote, getting close enough to find his voice annoying and get a handle on his personality (indicating she got physically close) and the other where she infiltrated his bedroom.
Anyway I don't expect the idea to be at all popular since they don't actually give Mathilde any advantages or provide tangible progress to the Waystones project. Despite that they're important tasks that will have a strong impact and are uniquely suited to Mathilde that I think are worth the time.
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Perhaps, but they're just not worth our time.
The slim chance we'll figure out Waystones is worth far more to the future of Sylvania than slightly accelerating the demise of some third-rate Vampire pretender.
The slim chance we'll figure out Waystones is worth far more to the future of Sylvania than slightly accelerating the demise of some third-rate Vampire pretender.
I would not call them uniquely suited to Mathilde, they can be done by anyone with good infiltration and assassination skills, those may not be all that common in the empire relative to the population, but there are still plenty of people who can do it.
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Don't forget Kasmir! Not just our bosses. An ill-timed crisis of faith indeed.
Maybe we'll spur van Horstmann away from faith in his current God, and on to a new path after all?
And, by contrast, there are tasks related to the Waystone network that Mathilde is uniquely suited to do. For example, she may be the only spellcaster in the world that a runesmith would teach Arcane Khazalid to.
deathofrats0808
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Neither of which really require getting particularly close. You can hear people and get to know how they act from a distance.
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Why would you deprive Mork of his most loyal and intelligent adherent?Maybe we'll spur van Horstmann away from faith in his current God, and on to a new path after all?
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Brilliant.
