The general system I hold is a simple matter of determining levels of canonicity, admittedly with respect to at least mostly correct grammar/spelling. For the most part, player/reader submitted omakes go in the Sidestory Tab, with differing levels of canon marked on them. Those without a [CANON] mark, or [SEMI-CANON] or the like, are generally considered to be noncanon. Nevertheless, I always do appreciate seeing someone else's muse and writing passion flaring up because of the setting and quest!
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The general system I hold is a simple matter of determining levels of canonicity, admittedly with respect to at least mostly correct grammar/spelling. For the most part, player/reader submitted omakes go in the Sidestory Tab, with differing levels of canon marked on them. Those without a [CANON] mark, or [SEMI-CANON] or the like, are generally considered to be noncanon. Nevertheless, I always do appreciate seeing someone else's muse and writing passion flaring up because of the setting and quest!
Oh that is helpful, thanks for the prompt response! what I was driving at is I didn't know if I needed to ask for it to get marked as apocrypha or what have you or if you would just spot it and make your own judgment call on it. Either way it was a fun thought experiment on some own personal musings on the gods of warhammer fantasy, I'm just glad you seemed to like it.
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Uh torroar can you fix the sidestory threadmarks, so that "[Canon] Excerpts from a Lecture by Professor Adolf von Heydrich of the Department of Natural History at the University of Altdorf regarding the Beasts of Norsca - iggyfan" is connected with "[Canon] The Brave Band of Kislev 5 - AllenWalker"?
As it is you've connected "[Canon] Excerpts from a Lecture by Professor Adolf von Heydrich of the Department of Natural History at the University of Altdorf regarding the Beasts of Norsca - iggyfan" with "Denial - hugo239111".
The gap between "[Canon] Excerpts from a Lecture by Professor Adolf von Heydrich of the Department of Natural History at the University of Altdorf regarding the Beasts of Norsca - iggyfan"and "[Canon] The Brave Band of Kislev 5 - AllenWalker" is vast though. And cut off.
As it is you've connected "[Canon] Excerpts from a Lecture by Professor Adolf von Heydrich of the Department of Natural History at the University of Altdorf regarding the Beasts of Norsca - iggyfan" with "Denial - hugo239111".
The gap between "[Canon] Excerpts from a Lecture by Professor Adolf von Heydrich of the Department of Natural History at the University of Altdorf regarding the Beasts of Norsca - iggyfan"and "[Canon] The Brave Band of Kislev 5 - AllenWalker" is vast though. And cut off.
Ah what the fuck. I didn't do that. I just put it at the end of the line, why did it do this. Ugh. Yeah, I'll try to fix it.
EDIT: Wait, no, they're just being mostly chronologically with posting times. You want me to shove them together ignoring chronological posting times? I guess I can do that?
EDIT: Wait, no, they're just being mostly chronologically with posting times. You want me to shove them together ignoring chronological posting times? I guess I can do that?
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No. It's...
The post "[Canon] The Brave Band of Kislev 5 - AllenWalker" does not connect to "[Canon] Excerpts from a Lecture by Professor Adolf von Heydrich of the Department of Natural History at the University of Altdorf regarding the Beasts of Norsca - iggyfan".
And the post "[Canon] Excerpts from a Lecture by Professor Adolf von Heydrich of the Department of Natural History at the University of Altdorf regarding the Beasts of Norsca - iggyfan" is a new set of threadmarks inside the sidestory tab (a lone island that connects to the island named "Denial - hugo239111"), not having a back button or a forward button connection is possibly what's causing the issues with the sidestory tab.
I'm requesting the QM to connect the threadmarks so that if I click the link to The Brave Band of Kislev 5 I can click on the currently missing right button on that post and be taken to "[Canon] Excerpts from a Lecture by Professor Adolf von Heydrich of the Department of Natural History at the University of Altdorf regarding the Beasts of Norsca - iggyfan".
And if I click the link to Excerpts from a Lecture by Professor Adolf von Heydrich of the Department of Natural History at the University of Altdorf regarding the Beasts of Norsca I can hit the currently missing left button on the post and be taken to "[Canon] The Brave Band of Kislev 5 - AllenWalker"
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"[Canon] The Brave Band of Kislev 5 - AllenWalker"
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"[Canon] Excerpts from a Lecture by Professor Adolf von Heydrich of the Department of Natural History at the University of Altdorf regarding the Beasts of Norsca - iggyfan"
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I don't know about Khaine acting like this. It feels Saturday cartoon villainish. I guess I was a little spoiled by how he was written in the Blacksmith Elf quest.
Man Khaine was like understandable in that quest
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Kaine may have some layers but unless the druichi get desteoyed he is pretty much a Saturday morning cartoon villain because this is his curren war mask. But remeber Tyrion is his favored chosen. The same elves that utterly reject this current interpretation of khaine.
yes FREDY, raise that HYPEEEE
YUS! SAY IT!
Now, if it could only drop and cut through miles of rock to poke the ship core…
Oh I can already hear the roasting Khaine has on Tullaris while the latter's getting down to whatever hells Khaine has prepared for his ex-favourite meatsack!
View: https://youtu.be/ySGMnmiqlss?si=yfz7lFbYXagKwtB2
He can pay us back by bringing us more Elf daughterus!
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What I'm getting from this is that the odds are astronomically low, but Not zero.
feeds into my theory thou. if ya can convince the Gods, you may just succsed. And nobody will want to belive you or record it.
I just like the mental image of a dwarf witnessing pan-work of halflings and having conflicting feelings.
and Thorgrim learning that he has not to Consider things, he does not want to think about.
I don't know if I managed to fix it or not, I just moved things around in the sidestory tab back and forth a few times. I don't really know what I'm doing in there.
... If Khaine is the god/war mask summoned to wage total war on chaos. Then he gets recruited into Khaine's slave army to fight infinity demons.
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To be fair, Luthien would be jealous if she got another Elf competing for Khaine's love.
... Nah. She's pretty open to sharing.
I think if she ever met Tularis, he might end up trying to recruit her... Or getting recruited by her.
He's pretty into Khaine but according to Blacksmith Quest, Khaine was being worshipped wrong by Malekith and mom and poisoned the well for the Asur. (not implausible) hence why only Morathi get full benefits and not Hellebron.
As for Khaine, He's absolutely terrible but he's supposed to be Total War Elf edition. (Total War. Salt the earth, burn the crops, no mercy, no surrender, kill the enemy of elf) he also symbolizes the subjugation of crafts and personal identity to the communal war effort(symbolizes by the enslaving of Vaul) . Pretty useful thing to have if you're in a war vs Daemons entering the world all the time.
So not a good guy but a pretty important conflict program if you're using the interpretation of the Eldar(40k) as old one psyker combat psyker specialist entities.
Asuryan would probably be Old One obedience protocols.
We're getting off topic but shipping is shipping.
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I mean...I'm not quite so sure that I'll be using that quest's interpretation of Khaine, honestly.
So I'd just keep that in mind. Yes, by the time of Age of Sigmar, Morathi has fully straight up co-opted Khaine's whole deal to empower herself, but this ain't then. He's a very powerful entity, capable of literally being called upon by humans in the Old World without any need of special education or the like by the Druchii.
Worship can change and be different in different parts of the world, like how Dazh is perfectly cheerful with small animal burnings or offerings in his fires in the south of Kislev while there are other Ungol Tribes who sacrifice humans to Him. Different sects, interpretations, are liberally used throughout the Empire even within major Cults like Sigmar and others. And the thing to remember is, those divergent different sect's aren't just suddenly dispowered or notably weakened due to not following the 'true' path.
I think that there are multiple paths to immortality available to those with the sheer magical power and knowledge to pull it off aside from the youth rituals that Hellebron partakes in. I think that Chaos has such secrets, and yet some do not need Chaos at all to manage it necessarily.
Personally, I think it would be one of the funniest cruel tricks to be pulled for there not to be an actual true immortality path with the Blood Cauldrons, only Morathi says there is, so the Cult of Khaine has people that secretly seek her favor so she'll tell them, implicitly weakening Hellebron's political position. While Hellebron herself is immensely jealous and believes somehow that Morathi is more favored by Khaine, which enrages her, where simply the secret is something that just happened to not be Khaine.
Meanwhile, Khaine receives endless, constant, ever increasing amounts of blood and sacrifice and slaughter in his name by those seeking such youth and power, hoping against hope that at some point they'll hit a tipping point and be granted the special secret that apparently only Morathi was blessed to know.
Like how Skarbrand will never be forgiven by Khorne, because in his current state he is a far better servant to Khorne's will and desires by endlessly seeking that forgiveness by greater and greater slaughter and more skulls. Or like how a certain accursed Tomb Prince bet his soul to Usirian, and endlessly seeks a replacement soul in exchange for release from his bargain - except no soul is the same, and so there will never be a replacement, and so Usirian will receive souls and a trickle of power from that Tomb Prince's acts literally forevermore until the world ends.
Just, you know, a thought.
So I'd just keep that in mind. Yes, by the time of Age of Sigmar, Morathi has fully straight up co-opted Khaine's whole deal to empower herself, but this ain't then. He's a very powerful entity, capable of literally being called upon by humans in the Old World without any need of special education or the like by the Druchii.
Worship can change and be different in different parts of the world, like how Dazh is perfectly cheerful with small animal burnings or offerings in his fires in the south of Kislev while there are other Ungol Tribes who sacrifice humans to Him. Different sects, interpretations, are liberally used throughout the Empire even within major Cults like Sigmar and others. And the thing to remember is, those divergent different sect's aren't just suddenly dispowered or notably weakened due to not following the 'true' path.
I think that there are multiple paths to immortality available to those with the sheer magical power and knowledge to pull it off aside from the youth rituals that Hellebron partakes in. I think that Chaos has such secrets, and yet some do not need Chaos at all to manage it necessarily.
Personally, I think it would be one of the funniest cruel tricks to be pulled for there not to be an actual true immortality path with the Blood Cauldrons, only Morathi says there is, so the Cult of Khaine has people that secretly seek her favor so she'll tell them, implicitly weakening Hellebron's political position. While Hellebron herself is immensely jealous and believes somehow that Morathi is more favored by Khaine, which enrages her, where simply the secret is something that just happened to not be Khaine.
Meanwhile, Khaine receives endless, constant, ever increasing amounts of blood and sacrifice and slaughter in his name by those seeking such youth and power, hoping against hope that at some point they'll hit a tipping point and be granted the special secret that apparently only Morathi was blessed to know.
Like how Skarbrand will never be forgiven by Khorne, because in his current state he is a far better servant to Khorne's will and desires by endlessly seeking that forgiveness by greater and greater slaughter and more skulls. Or like how a certain accursed Tomb Prince bet his soul to Usirian, and endlessly seeks a replacement soul in exchange for release from his bargain - except no soul is the same, and so there will never be a replacement, and so Usirian will receive souls and a trickle of power from that Tomb Prince's acts literally forevermore until the world ends.
Just, you know, a thought.
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My headcanon is that the reason Hellebron struggles so much with aging when, say, Alith Anar who is of comparable age (young adult during the Sundering) seems to have no such trouble is that it's Khaine who is causing her to age in such a manner, because it motivates her like nothing else to commit ever more death and murder in his name.
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Honestly I think the best way to frame Khaine is how he is diferent from khorne.
The blood handed warrior. A tool of murrder and only murrder. Unlike the blood drunken deamon Khaine is only concerned of how much of a warrior and killing machine his servants are how his servants influence can create more peerless warrior murdermachines. Murrder is divine, killing is the sacrament, Domination over the self and others is the doctrine.
This is why humans can call on him, he cares not for what side anyone is, or how someone lyke Freddy and to a even more extreme degree Tyrion are still candidates for his favor despite being rejections.
Khorne is Thor.
Khaine is Ares.
The blood handed warrior. A tool of murrder and only murrder. Unlike the blood drunken deamon Khaine is only concerned of how much of a warrior and killing machine his servants are how his servants influence can create more peerless warrior murdermachines. Murrder is divine, killing is the sacrament, Domination over the self and others is the doctrine.
This is why humans can call on him, he cares not for what side anyone is, or how someone lyke Freddy and to a even more extreme degree Tyrion are still candidates for his favor despite being rejections.
Khorne is Thor.
Khaine is Ares.
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Hunh. And here I was thinking me associating the Cult of Khaine with cauldrons that restore you if you fill them with the blood of the slain was my headcanon/ thinking of Elizabeth Bathory. And her bathing in virgin blood…
Returning to this, I'm thinking Khaine was ticked about that reminder of Tullaris' fall reaching Gwen's ears, because this was a devoted worhsipper of Khaine, acting in Khaine name and his themes, and still losing, and that story thus implies Khaine is not all-powerful to someone who SHOUlD already have been consecrated to Khaine, and that crack in her belief will in turn make it that much easier to resist Khaine's grip in the future.
…Having said that given how Khaine has a grip on a portion of Freddy's soul or something pissing him off might be a problem…
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I'm pretty sure that part of Freddy's soul got sacrificed to Khorne at the end of Karak Ungor.
Isabella von Carstein is the most obvious Warhammer Elizabeth Bathory expy.
She literally has a piece of wargear referencing it:
Blood Chalice of Bathori - Countless are the innocent souls whose life essence has flowed into this bewitched goblet. Those that drink from it are rejuvenated with new power.
But there are plenty of blood-soaky rituals and what not that vampires get up to, and people trying to replicate aspects of vampirism out of a desire to also be pretty and young forever if it means killing virgins. Plus some Chaos-based blood-soaky rituals that also can do empowerment and strengthening and what not. And, yes, Khaine's Blood Cauldrons and blood-soaky rituals are also sort of there.
Bathory is infamous IRL, but blood-related rituals for youth/empowerment are not an unknown thing elsewhere IRL either.
At the end of the day, like 'em or hate 'em, Khorne, Khaine, Vampires, and others all know share one truth at minimum that is quite true in Warhammer - that there is power in blood.
While I think it´s one valid interpretation, we actually don´t know to what degree the Khaine in the quest actually gets angry when such a prominent worshipper is killed in the way he did.
I mean, while Tullaris might have died an unworthy dead by Druchii standards, that mainly is due to the Druchii´s superiority complex doing mental gymnastics with everything to make it fit their own twisted worldview:
While they see all humans basically as cattle and consider dying to them ---no matter their skill-- to be an humiliating death, Khaine seems to think somewhat differently. Frederick´s scars of the Khainite sigils carved in his cheeks reacting to Khaine´s power during the fight against Tullaris, heavily implies that human Khainites worship the same Khaine --just in a different way--, and, that if they´re good enough at murdering, Khaine very much is willing to provide them with blessings. And he considered Frederick a good enough murderer to try and make a play for his soul once he got the opportunity.
Tullaris actually did not got out like a scrub just because he fought against a human. He died in a very high-level and brutal fight, during which both parties came very close to dying and, also important, were utterly full of hate towards each other. Then there was the way it ended, with one party getting murdered in a horribly gruesome and ironic way. I.e. this normally would be precisely the sort of fight that Khaine favors.
Might Khaine be angry with Tullaris because he died? Perhaps. But, considering in just what kind of fight he died, he might not really care that much, and just focus on other tools to generate more murder, instead.
Gwendolyn´s reactions might not have been caused by Khaine´s anger, but by just how intimately and full of hate Frederick was recounting the bloody and gruesome end to the above fight.
Also, I feel that Hultressa´s "indescribable expression", might´ve just been due to seeing that disturbing/weird scene of Frederick gently comforting Eldyra, while hatefully recounting in exact detail how he killed a figure that she, as part of Druchii society, would´ve consider very, very dangerous.
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And rightfully so. I have reread that fight recently, and while we ended up completly owning Tullaris that only really happened because we rolled 6 on on our 6+ ward save twice.