Considering this is a threat that has sat here since before Old One terraforming, I don't know how much of a chance we have of clearing it out. We might be able to secure the surface, but underground is going to be much more difficult.
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MrRobot
In doubt there's always the Sun!
Honestly clearing it would need a lot of fire, the prize of an pre fall hold would be great, maybe we could contact the light wizards to help with that...
But yeah i think this os Warhammer version of the balrog since is the worst plauge an dawi can think of.
But yeah i think this os Warhammer version of the balrog since is the worst plauge an dawi can think of.
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Honestly if this thing is as old as it's supposed to be and the Ratmen fear it. I think telling the Dawi about it and how to deal with it might be something we could plan on doing someday. could not should. And besides I am with the others about Middenlands army. we don't know what got them but this fungus thing is a suspect. But again we don't know for sure.
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One big question I have is how intelligent and coordinated is the Ix? Because it uses stealth, burrowing tactics, and seems to act as an army, but those could just be instinctive behaviours- there's no mention anything that definitively indicates intelligence rather than instincts.
For the record, this is a trigger that has been a long time coming in terms of being pulled.
We've discussed, at length, for IRL years, about the Middle Mountains and its whole End Times wackadillio. You know, with its highest peak holding the Keep of the First Slayer and the 3rd mega Chaos Gate that could overwhelm the whole world being in there and Grimnir being the only thing holding it back.
Now, canonically, all we had before End Times, was that this was a breakaway set of Dwarf Kingdoms. You've got your Karaz Ankor, and then you had the independent Karaz Ghumzul, but they left back home when the Time of Woes happened and also pronounced a huge curse on the mountains and that they were bad and ever since approximately ZERO dwarfs have ever returned there. EVER. No matter what. And they left. And that they sealed and disguised the doors, etc. Also, people have been trying to loot said sealed up dwarf holds ever since, trying to find them. But there are only ever two results from that: 1 they come back with nothing all grubby and annoyed or 2 they don't come back.
And also, its apparently minerally poor around the edges/foothills/lowlands, which is where most all ever human settlement has ever managed, because its drowning in beastmen, greenskins, and huge dangerous Old World forests (but I repeat myself) on top, and human settlement efforts have never ever managed to be large scale enough to result in them doing any big deep delving. Historically, that is.
I mentioned waffling about it, for a long time. Because either you had straight up a 3rd Chaos Gate on the scale of the two Polar Gates here, and Grimnir, and End Times, or you didn't. And if you didn't, I would have to come up with other stuff to make it still a place that had an independent kingdom of the metaphysically stubborn dwarfs go 'EVERYONE LEAVE. FOREVER' and yet somehow retain mass mega amounts of the more 'usual' Mallus wildlife i.e. greenskins/skaven tunnels/beastmen/bandits/etc. + scrabbly human settlements doing some stuff here and there for 2500+ years.
So...yeah.
Good news, everyone! There is NOT a 3rd Chaos Gate of world-rending proportions that has only ever been held back by the tireless endless infinite work of Grimnir of the Ancestor Gods in the Middle Mountains!
We've discussed, at length, for IRL years, about the Middle Mountains and its whole End Times wackadillio. You know, with its highest peak holding the Keep of the First Slayer and the 3rd mega Chaos Gate that could overwhelm the whole world being in there and Grimnir being the only thing holding it back.
Now, canonically, all we had before End Times, was that this was a breakaway set of Dwarf Kingdoms. You've got your Karaz Ankor, and then you had the independent Karaz Ghumzul, but they left back home when the Time of Woes happened and also pronounced a huge curse on the mountains and that they were bad and ever since approximately ZERO dwarfs have ever returned there. EVER. No matter what. And they left. And that they sealed and disguised the doors, etc. Also, people have been trying to loot said sealed up dwarf holds ever since, trying to find them. But there are only ever two results from that: 1 they come back with nothing all grubby and annoyed or 2 they don't come back.
And also, its apparently minerally poor around the edges/foothills/lowlands, which is where most all ever human settlement has ever managed, because its drowning in beastmen, greenskins, and huge dangerous Old World forests (but I repeat myself) on top, and human settlement efforts have never ever managed to be large scale enough to result in them doing any big deep delving. Historically, that is.
I mentioned waffling about it, for a long time. Because either you had straight up a 3rd Chaos Gate on the scale of the two Polar Gates here, and Grimnir, and End Times, or you didn't. And if you didn't, I would have to come up with other stuff to make it still a place that had an independent kingdom of the metaphysically stubborn dwarfs go 'EVERYONE LEAVE. FOREVER' and yet somehow retain mass mega amounts of the more 'usual' Mallus wildlife i.e. greenskins/skaven tunnels/beastmen/bandits/etc. + scrabbly human settlements doing some stuff here and there for 2500+ years.
So...yeah.
Good news, everyone! There is NOT a 3rd Chaos Gate of world-rending proportions that has only ever been held back by the tireless endless infinite work of Grimnir of the Ancestor Gods in the Middle Mountains!
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The most unnerving part is how well planned this was. A probing attack in our most far flung region right as all our eyes were on the sea and the Dark Elves. Malagor might have made some sacrifices to rouse the infection to anger, but he nearly gutted a province without even showing his hand.
This is really problematic when we win because there's no ideal solution. Even if we conclude this is a sign the beast tide is imminent, a huge chunk of the Empire's forces is still going abroad to fight the orcs. The empire as a whole will still be woefully out of position.
This is really problematic when we win because there's no ideal solution. Even if we conclude this is a sign the beast tide is imminent, a huge chunk of the Empire's forces is still going abroad to fight the orcs. The empire as a whole will still be woefully out of position.
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yes and we got zombies instead yea... thats not much better (joke)
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And yet for all that, Ostland Held.
Freddy's going to be looking like some kind of in-universe Tactical Genius Man if these murderblows continue to be parried simply because Freddy has no comprehension of when to say he has enough gun defending a flank.
Freddy's going to be looking like some kind of in-universe Tactical Genius Man if these murderblows continue to be parried simply because Freddy has no comprehension of when to say he has enough gun defending a flank.
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Please explaining this in Laymans terms GM, I don't think I understood it. Is the third Chaos Gate non canon to this quest?
Considering the runaway success of the Kessel Run and assuming Magnus succeeds in rescuing the Everpeak...Malagor has to know that he cant let the Trident survive to become the new heart of a resurgent empire after the Beasttide burns itself out after this.
The northern and southern forks getting repulsed like this in relatively good order means he has to divert resources to making sure that Ostland, above all others, doesn't make it out of this alive to serve as a symbol of victory and defiance.
Because the entire point of this affair is a gamble on a prestige win for the Beastmen Race over the undisputed corpse of Sigmars Empire. If the Beasttide ends and even a single part of the Trident survives, everything Malagor will have done will be for nothing.
Also Morai-Wens presence requires further investment of supercombatants just to try and stop her from stampeding their lines
They have to throw everything they have at us now.
They flat out dont have a choice in the matter anymore
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Apparently not. Instead we have The Last of US fungus.
Just what the Bull requested, a target rich environment!
I...er...thought that I had given it pretty layman's characteristic.
Yeah. The Middle Mountains do not possess a Third Chaos Gate, nor the Keep of the First Slayer, nor Grimnir.
In DoDA, at least.
I don't think Malagor cares nearly that much about what humans think. I'm pretty sure he's going to consider anything less than the full destruction of the empire as a failure, and anything that survives as a personal insult, regardless. The northern trident doesn't matter any more to him than anywhere else.
Malagors rage must be off the charts right now. The Trident is better prepared to handle the Beasttide than anyone else save perhaps Ostermark, and keeping us from sweeping aside the opening parts of the offensive before snowballing it up for the rest of the Empire is something he cant afford to fail at.
Magnus and the Army of the Forest are the unironic best equipped to blunt the opening moments of the attack. Hes gonna have to reposition his forces now that the situation is far more fluid than he wanted it to be.
Basically, what I'm trying to save is that we mightve just managed to prematurely close a front of the Beasttide before it could ever even begin
Magnus and the Army of the Forest are the unironic best equipped to blunt the opening moments of the attack. Hes gonna have to reposition his forces now that the situation is far more fluid than he wanted it to be.
Basically, what I'm trying to save is that we mightve just managed to prematurely close a front of the Beasttide before it could ever even begin
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speaking of the beast tide. Wouldn't it be ironic if the Beastmen stumbled into the fungus? Malagor would either ignore it or fight it for some reason.
Only because you think he ignores the strategic implications. The Northern Trident is extremely hardened against a Beastmen offensive right now. So anything less than ensuring he takes them out ensure that he fails
That means he needs to divert resources to meeting that threshold
We also need to invent NBC suits for ogres. Also ogre scale flamethrowers. Start sanitizing the depths of the middle mountains.
Or, alternatively, these spores seem to die in sunlight. There is the brand new college of Hysh. I bet we could commission some glowing orbs of sunlight to help purge this infection.
Or, alternatively, these spores seem to die in sunlight. There is the brand new college of Hysh. I bet we could commission some glowing orbs of sunlight to help purge this infection.
MrRobot
In doubt there's always the Sun!
And all he learned from this is that "he needs an flamethrower"
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I might be forgetting stuff but isn´t ostermark part of the trident
Anna, dear could you write to your Dwai Engineering friends about how to turn our Vapor Engines into, something similar to Irondrakes, but original
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Fungi are absolutely creepy. They aren't animals but they aren't plants either. Forever existing in this terrifying middle ground. At least it's only based of the Last of Us fungus and not the Flood. Ironic considering they share the common inspiration of the codyceps fungus.
Hmm. So, we also have to ask the question, was the Middenland army wiped out by the Ix? As people have pointed out, no mention was made of shamblers in Middenland livery. But that only means they didn't attack us. There is still the possibility that a different branch of the Ix closer to Middenland has the entire remains of their army laying in wait.
Or we were right the first time and they got wiped out by the Beastmen. The Ix don't strike me as intelligent enough to hold back on its efforts to grow and expand out for a strategy.
Hmm. So, we also have to ask the question, was the Middenland army wiped out by the Ix? As people have pointed out, no mention was made of shamblers in Middenland livery. But that only means they didn't attack us. There is still the possibility that a different branch of the Ix closer to Middenland has the entire remains of their army laying in wait.
Or we were right the first time and they got wiped out by the Beastmen. The Ix don't strike me as intelligent enough to hold back on its efforts to grow and expand out for a strategy.