I understand this bit, but there are private discords dedicated to this kind of thing? Like a general 'SV Quests' Discord or a specific one for this? Dang man.
Warhammer Fantasy: A Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism
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That's a matter of opinion, which is really what this vote is about.
Nope, it is literally how I see things on a gut/instinctive level. You may not agree with it, but that doesn't make it disingenuous.
No clue, but theres lots of overlap between folks on other private discords related to other stuff. I know of at least three or four based around specific creators or groups of creators on the site.
Really? I figured if you were going to argue that it was a matter of perspective on who got to say what individual terms meant, then you'd have been willing to grant me the same courtesy of defining things as I saw them.
Interesting privilege to assert for yourself.
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Hmm. Weird! Don't know if I like the thought of that sort of thing swinging stuff around if they're not regularly engaged, but there's nothing I can do about it, realistically. Plus, its just as possible they're lurkers who just don't do anything but read and don't even leave behind likes or whatever to identify them, and I wouldn't know either way.
Oh well. Long as it's not, like, sock puppeting or whatever.
Oh well. Long as it's not, like, sock puppeting or whatever.
Yeah, it's why I favor that term rather than more derogatory stuff that I've seen some others used to describe the phenomenon.
Because that's in the opposite order of things that the druchii need to win this fight. Monsters and arty are dangerous yes, but no matter what we do the Druchii are going to advance to kill us.
If we take advantage of that then we have serious odds of breaking the most dangerous (and fragile) force on the battlefield.
Brigading, more or less, is when someone drops a link to a quest and asks for people to vote a certain way. Usually it's more benign and you'll just be asked to vote, but yeah, it's a thing.
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That wasn't what I was trying to do, and I apologise if you thought I was trying to claim ownership over the term; that wasn't my intention. In my original post I was basically just trying to ensure that you/others weren't misunderstanding what I meant when I said 'dying without fighting back', as I realise it could potentially mean different things to different people. Essentially, I was trying to clarify what exactly it was that I was trying to say, rather than argue that it was the technically correct term for it (hence why I said 'fair enough if you disagree on whether that counts').
And ultimately, I don't really care about the specific definition; what matters is that I get across what I mean- that I don't like the idea of having our artillery die without putting up resistance against the specific threats killing them. You can call that 'dying without fighting back', you can call that 'dying while focusing on another duty', you can call that 'flobberdob dob-dob'; it doesn't matter.
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But it does matter, because you're still communicating that belief to other people.
It's fine if you say that and preface the statement with "even if it's not the actual term", then yeah theres no confusion. But if you drop that into the conversation then misunderstanding happens and that's another argument that has to be addressed from folks who dont particularly care enough to pay attention.
I've had to reiterate my position on the dragons...how many times the past few days?
It's not fun.
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Why would you assume people who don't take part in the discussion are automatically here because someone told them to vote on discord? Have you done a survey?
I'm here because this is an awesome story to read and don't often vote because most of the time I don't have much of an opinion on what to do in battle or because I forget. I also skip discussion sometimes because people post 10 pages overnight and spend most of that on the exact same argument. No conspiracy needed.
[X] Unleash the Martyrs with fire support!
Several times over a number of quests yes. Before Red flag posted his own how to guide on QMing a couple years back I was working on my own version using Iliad Quest as a stand out example and test bed for experimenting with such trends
Lost my data a couple years back when my old laptop got lost in the house fire, though, and I kinda dropped the project because I got pre empted by Red Flags own version.
Oh.
Did you think I was just griping?
Sorry to disappoint, then.
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When I said 'fair enough if you disagree that it counts', that was actually what I was trying to do. Communicate that I was aware that people might disagree on the terminology I was using, with the sentence beforehand clarifying what I specifically meant by when I used the term. Sorry if that didn't come across clearly.
I do sympathise with you on that, and it looks like it was incredibly frustrating for everyone involved in that discussion. Though, if I could make a request?
Please try be a little less hasty when it comes to jumping down people's throats.
Yes, you've had to deal with a lot of frustrating arguments over the past twenty or so pages- I've read them, and I would not want to be involved in them- but that doesn't mean that everyone new who disagrees with you is trying to argue in bad faith. I made what, something like three or four short (one paragraph) posts before you started claiming I was being disingenuous and trying to assert privileges? It's... well, honestly it's somewhere between insulting and sad, that you apparently assume I'm posting maliciously and are willing to think the worst of me with so little reason.
That's life, unfortunately. I'm not here to engage in any sob stories, but I have reason enough to be the way I am.
My sincere apologies for the unwarranted attitude I extended towards you.
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So the general basis of TehChron plan is to focus on the main Druchii army and wittle down their numbers to the point of when they reach the final wall our Ogre's,Eonir and State Troops etc will finish off with moderate difficulty?
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Wouldn't say moderate because it all comes down to how well we manage the Druchii hero units, but yeah basically more or less.
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As I understand it it's one part that, plus one part trying to push Delven losses to a point where they realise 'oh shit, we literally can't keep this up if we want to make it home'. Please correct me if that's wrong, @TehChron?
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shepsquared
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You are just griping. And you sound like every other sore loser who whined about discord groups.
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It has a major risk of leaving us completely open to their own artillery fire, which by word of QM, and given that this is Ghrond, is all enchanted ammo to make what's normally wooden bolts extra destructive to our forces. The crux of the arguments has been whether we should risk getting f'ed by artillery fire and focus on their main force for the possibility of massive damage, which is the option TehChron's plan supports, or give up on said possibility of an advantageous opening salvo opening the way for mass Druchii casualties to better safeguard our own forces against the potential damage the artillery can inflict-like homing bolts slamming into the wings of Oskana and killing her, Kerillian and Natasha, magically explosive bolts destroying our walls, or any other possibility, given that we are dealing with a magical group pretty much only rivaled by Hoeth, Tzeentchians, and the Slaan
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I mean, they're not going to fly high enough to be beyond their range anyway, not as long as the battle is ongoing and killing needs be done, so I'd argue the question is moot.
*looks to another ten pages of bickering*
You lot are certainly persistent.
Mind, if a round with Venomfang left nothing worse than bruises, I powerfully doubt the bolt throwers are going to do more than papercuts, barring a Very Special Anti Rune Bolt.
Plus, Ballistic Skill 4 is high, but not that high. The Elves are really, really good, but with the exception of agility, they're not literally impossibly superhuman.
You lot are certainly persistent.
Mind, if a round with Venomfang left nothing worse than bruises, I powerfully doubt the bolt throwers are going to do more than papercuts, barring a Very Special Anti Rune Bolt.
Plus, Ballistic Skill 4 is high, but not that high. The Elves are really, really good, but with the exception of agility, they're not literally impossibly superhuman.
Except I'm not? They're a real thing, acknowledging reality isnt the same as griping. It's not being in active denial. As I said, its neither good nor bad, its just a thing.
You're the odd one out, given you identified with a term that presumably didnt even apply to you.
Anyway, itll either happen or it won't. I'd prefer if it didnt, but I'm open to being proven wrong like I was about the walls.
What you've outlined is the stretch goal yeah. I'd like to chase them into retreat, and if its possible this is our way to do it.
If we've got to kill them all, the same holds true.
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Mmm, but TT doesn't really mean anything.
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True True but when pages of the thread are filled with how powerful the threat of bolt throwers are and how that is the crux of many the post arguing between the two plans. Really the only difference just comes down to which threat is bigger i guess?