When we were back on are way home we learned that most of mairenburg army is was gone and leased to middeland/ when we learned that the whole army was going somewhere as well
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And Aberfa still considered courting him! Respect for her.
Pathing of Accursed Albion
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With the campaign in Albion now finished here is a map showcasing the route said campaign took us.
Green route is our intital landing and helping locals take back several ogham stones, red is the assault on the pillar and then going north to group up with other tribes, yellow is Mena's journey to Giant's Causeway to get their help, blue Reinhardt's own supply mission to get weapons from Forge, and finally the purple route the do or die assault on the Great Ogham to take it back from the fimir.
Funnily enough, we only experienced a third of Albion at most!
Green route is our intital landing and helping locals take back several ogham stones, red is the assault on the pillar and then going north to group up with other tribes, yellow is Mena's journey to Giant's Causeway to get their help, blue Reinhardt's own supply mission to get weapons from Forge, and finally the purple route the do or die assault on the Great Ogham to take it back from the fimir.
Funnily enough, we only experienced a third of Albion at most!
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Ah yes. They even had that combined arms training at their forest with the Reikland. Bildhofens wife went to the Azyr tower and came out smiling. I think she suspects the coming Beastmen invasion and is building up troops. Doing so at the cost of Wissenlands army might be seems as problematic afterwards.
Just speculation though.
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they might of just been trying to copy our cover for the skaven campagin
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For the EM the players want to talk with the Al-Ulric about our Ulrican's vision from Ulric to do something to the flame of Ulric.
Another relative big goal is to learn the language of the elves. Really important for some.
Try a diplomatic communication with Reikland's Count again. I definitely want that, he's one of the good counts, and if we can improve the place even a little bit that can make a more solid and connected empire.
Middenland is probably fighting the beastmen in their land. That's why Middenland grabbed them. What else would they do with an army? Attack an elector count during the reign of Magnus the Pious? Gunthar is an imperial hero too.
@torroar when was Gunthar von Blidhofen born? I don't know which date you're using. Headcanon, or the canon date?
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well as @Thanatosra said skaven or maybe if their crazy enough going to drakewald/ super far out their but maybe some fimir in their territory?
Travler66
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My concerns are with how the common peasantry/Elector Counts/Dwarves are going to react to our relations with Laurelorn. It's no secret that Wood Elves aren't that well-received by most Humans/Dwarves in The Old World, no thanks to problems from all sides. When it becomes more clear that we're friendly with Elves a lot of people might take it in the worst possible light.
I think it would be best to keep our new friendship with the Eonir under wraps as we gradually reveal it over time.
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Their going after Brass Keep apperantly their trying to Locate it no idea on its success in both locating and battle so up in the air.
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the dawi and empire already know a lot about our dealing with the elves (like not sure they know we meet with the everqueen and if I recall a rumor mill mentioned us "teaching" (acutal line from rumor mill Perhaps this will show the arrogant elves that they require proper Imperial leadership and guidance, as they clearly couldn't defend themselves! cause the empire arrogance matches the elves) them how to fight beastmen cause they don't belief in walking trees) and the empire already knows theirs some kind of deal with the wood elves since nordlands borders shrunk
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iggyfan
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Not quite, she came out "practically laughing mad". In addition Rommel went to them and came out "all white-faced and grim".
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Which its why were probably gonna need to tell Big Magnus but read the Lovely Laurelorn Epilogues.
In the land of the 6-6'5 average folk, someone that short is definitively intriguing, especially given his strength, training, and stuff showing him as a definitely skilled fighter, while his gentle scholarly nature ensured that conversation was much more natural than with anyone else. His attempts to - and success at - rapidly learning portions of their language also impressed the Albish. The conversation was always about them, pretty much, letting them boast, talk, etc. as much as they wished to him.
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Kinda random, but Albion is supposed to have really good hunting hounds, yeah? I wonder if it would be worth getting a number of them to breed and use as trackers and security.
After all, lots of things in the world no matter how sneaky still give off a scent after all, like skaven for example!
Hehehe, now I'm imagining Wolfenburg becoming the city of cats and dogs of the Empire if we fill it with security hounds and just cats in general to keep the skaven away.
After all, lots of things in the world no matter how sneaky still give off a scent after all, like skaven for example!
Hehehe, now I'm imagining Wolfenburg becoming the city of cats and dogs of the Empire if we fill it with security hounds and just cats in general to keep the skaven away.
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Our agreement with the Eonir is between Frederick/Ostland and the Eonir. Not the Eonir and the Emperor or the Empire as a whole. Thus it's Ostland business and nobody else needs to know, anyway.
Naraiel already said she isn't interested in treating with anyone else. Just Frederick and Stephen (on separate terms) and their heirs.
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The benefits for Nordland as a whole is the coralling and locating of Herds of Beastman and Goblins. Its probably what +5 or +10? on their Hunting role? torroar probably treats every Province? With their own personal roles like with Kislev which he treats as its own Quest.
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I think it was mentioned official stuff between the Eonir and the Empire might come up in upcoming Elector's Meet, if only the official realization of Nordland's new borders with them and not anything else. Goodness knows there might be a few Electors who will raise a stink about 'giving away Empire land' in general when that comes up.
Curious law question, is it against greater Empire law to give over land to foreign peoples? Or is it one of those things where the Elector can give away large parts of their own province if they wanted to without having to answer to anyone?
Curious law question, is it against greater Empire law to give over land to foreign peoples? Or is it one of those things where the Elector can give away large parts of their own province if they wanted to without having to answer to anyone?
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It's probably one of those things that seem so utterly ridiculous to everyone else, that they didn't even bother to codify it as a law.
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Its the Empire so...yeah, but in the Words of this TL Magnus the Pious Faith,Steel,Gunpowder and Its People is what makes the Empire what we all know and love.
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Don't know if the Empire has any body of law similar to a constitution, or if it just soldiers on with non-formalized traditions while the individual electors have broad autonomy.
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Speaking of human physiques, what's your headcanon for why the Proto-Imperials, who seemed to have similar physiques to the Norscans and Albish, have descendants who have more or less normal physiques, @torroar? It's not like the Empire is that much less dangerous than it was during Sigmar's time, after all.
I can see potential but also potential backlash.
Better to have a place for them like our dwarf undertown and/or brewery district that develops naturally.
Though the Albish aren't as rich or respected so perhaps your way might be better. And since we gave land to dwarves and elves(rent/lease)
And since Nordland already gave up Laurelorn...
Perhaps it's better if they go to Reinhardt's place Ostermark first?
His knighthood would be the best choice for integrating and teaching them.
Also maybe he gets to borrow the Claymore till he gets the runefang.
And there's plenty of unused political capital since Ortud has been gaining deeds but hasn't yet done crazy Frederick things.
Nordland could use the extra population but Mena is not really in a good place at the moment. Albish could reminder her of her deeds, but are more likely to remind her of her loss.
But let's not talk about that! Albish mercenaries! Giants with formation sweeping Scythes! Giant hand cannons! Mammoth cavalry!
Albish claymore companies! Forest stalkers! Dual wind druids! Surprise Fenbeast ambushes!
Bwahaha! They've known war for so long that there's bound to be a few who'll want to fight! And there a great big zoggin fight on da' Orizon!
Waaagghhhh!!!
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Individual Electors have the Authority to do what ever they want do their Province. Strong Emperors like Magnus can intervene when he wants to but for reguler Emps it could be seen as an overreach of Authority which is bad for weak emperors. EDIT: If you want the system of power then the Wikia section of the Empire politics gives an explanation.
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It's technically just a matter of legal claims, acceptance/denials. In canon, Nordland's EC claimed to be the Prince of Marienburg, and held claims to that city-state as truly meant to be under his leadership. Said nation/province also literally bought itself out of the Empire though that was under rather extensive circumstances. The Moot was also created when the Emperor at the time declared it so, tearing it out of Averland/Stirland's hands entirely legally.
Let's be clear. Nordland never owned much of any of Laurelorn, it doesn't matter what they claimed. They were allowed to have very restricted settlements under stringent watch, and any illegal settlement was immediately expunged by old (by human standard) treaties.
This has popped up even in in-universe stuff, like Court of Ostland stuff regarding territories. Oh this river moved a bit, oh I own this bridge and etc. etc. When Frederick makes a decision 'you get this territory, you don't' that's the same sort of thing we're talking about here. The fact of the matter is that thanks to Gruber, 0% of the western Nordland i.e. settlements west of the River Salz survived. Neither nobility nor commoners. Either they converted and were later killed in the fighting, or were killed outright and used as sacrifices or stock for other dark sorcerous works. Nobody had anything more than, at absolute most, not a primary, not a secondary, not a tertiary, not even a quaternary, but a quintenary connection to the beginnings of a claim of any sort west of the river.
Nobody in the province had a real claim, and Nordland was pushed down to 1/3 of its former population during the fighting. So rather than expend bodies and effort pointlessly, Stephan chose to try and concentrate and turtle his way for the next generation at the least. Build up and build up, cities/towns/walls/farms/trade/etc. Slowly, in phases. And he just didn't see the point. He'd rather try and make long-term allies than enemies of them. So he, as has been done all across the Empire for over two thousand years, looked at certain claims, and legally ended them in his authority as the Elector's Count of Nordland. There was no one within his province to challenge him, not with an actual position/platform to do so from with any surety of success. This, however, has NOT stopped a good chunk of the nobles and peoples of Nordland (some of those from before the fight against Gruber and some who grew up afterwards) as well as those within Westerland and Middenland from absolutely ripping on Stephan for willingly surrendering Imperial territory.
Never mind that it never really was, unlike the attempts at taking some Bretonnian/Kislev/Border Prince Clay in the past, which the Empire did, and usually actually managed to hold for a chunk of time. Compared to Laurelorn, which they quite literally never have in any major sense, because again - those settlements on the 2522 IC map are those that the elves of Laurelorn strictly allowed, and weren't allowed to harvest anything the elves said they couldn't, and had extreme requirements on just how many people were even allowed in them.
Let's be clear. Nordland never owned much of any of Laurelorn, it doesn't matter what they claimed. They were allowed to have very restricted settlements under stringent watch, and any illegal settlement was immediately expunged by old (by human standard) treaties.
This has popped up even in in-universe stuff, like Court of Ostland stuff regarding territories. Oh this river moved a bit, oh I own this bridge and etc. etc. When Frederick makes a decision 'you get this territory, you don't' that's the same sort of thing we're talking about here. The fact of the matter is that thanks to Gruber, 0% of the western Nordland i.e. settlements west of the River Salz survived. Neither nobility nor commoners. Either they converted and were later killed in the fighting, or were killed outright and used as sacrifices or stock for other dark sorcerous works. Nobody had anything more than, at absolute most, not a primary, not a secondary, not a tertiary, not even a quaternary, but a quintenary connection to the beginnings of a claim of any sort west of the river.
Nobody in the province had a real claim, and Nordland was pushed down to 1/3 of its former population during the fighting. So rather than expend bodies and effort pointlessly, Stephan chose to try and concentrate and turtle his way for the next generation at the least. Build up and build up, cities/towns/walls/farms/trade/etc. Slowly, in phases. And he just didn't see the point. He'd rather try and make long-term allies than enemies of them. So he, as has been done all across the Empire for over two thousand years, looked at certain claims, and legally ended them in his authority as the Elector's Count of Nordland. There was no one within his province to challenge him, not with an actual position/platform to do so from with any surety of success. This, however, has NOT stopped a good chunk of the nobles and peoples of Nordland (some of those from before the fight against Gruber and some who grew up afterwards) as well as those within Westerland and Middenland from absolutely ripping on Stephan for willingly surrendering Imperial territory.
Never mind that it never really was, unlike the attempts at taking some Bretonnian/Kislev/Border Prince Clay in the past, which the Empire did, and usually actually managed to hold for a chunk of time. Compared to Laurelorn, which they quite literally never have in any major sense, because again - those settlements on the 2522 IC map are those that the elves of Laurelorn strictly allowed, and weren't allowed to harvest anything the elves said they couldn't, and had extreme requirements on just how many people were even allowed in them.
pucflek
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Less Magic than in the Wastes. I think especially the talk about Albionese has been great reminder of previous discussions on the topic. Magic is kinda shit to encounter when its acting freely on account of all the mutations, but if you just live in magic rich environment and are born there, you just might grow to be really big. I would attribute the fact that Albish are not experiencing mutations with the frequency Norscans do to the Oghams.
While Empire is far from inert magically, its canonical fact that Far North blows with chaos energies more strongly, and we know for a fact that winds blow with great power in Albion, so... yeah.
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