Hokay. Since I realized I hadn't, and should have, I now have done something I should have been. Grand Conclave mentions have been added to several Rumor Mill/Results posts throughout the threadmarks.

2304 [Turn 1]/2309 [Turn 6]/2314 [Turn 11]/2319 [Turn 16]/2324 [Turn 21]/2329 [Turn 25]/2334 [Turn 30] now all possess mentions of the Grand Conclave. A bit retroactive, but I feel I made them fit properly. They will be added to things going forward.

Bleh, just one more thing to keep track of that I didn't and should have been. Ugh, the amount of things that could have been done involving Conclave stuff in the past...geh.

I mean, it makes sense Freddy wouldn't pay any attention to those rumors until after he got religion.
 
Edit: Since we are currently learning more about Myrmidia and they are currently in disfavor wonder if we can't let them settle in Ostland as long as they don't pull secret society stuff.
We were already kind of doing the first part what with our inviting Estalians fleeing their country from marauding agents of evil. It's part of the reason why we now have the Street of Steel.

We could try to do another "your loss, my gain" thing and spit in the Sigmarite/Ulrican push to reduce the Myrmidian influence network in the Empire by inviting them in but I can't imagine the Sigmarite and Ulrican clergy would be pleased by this.
Granted, we could probably get away with it due to Freddy being Freddy but annoying the two most powerful religions in the Empire might lower our odds of getting Arthur's order of the Garden or the Ostlander branch of the Esmereldan faith represented at future Conclaves any time soon(or increase it if the southern Cult of Morr approves of our being sympathetic to Tilean/Estalian influences in the Empire).

Also, kind of hard to tell if people are doing secret society stuff without heavy surveillance or luck. What with the existence of such a society being secret and all.
I mean, it makes sense Freddy wouldn't pay any attention to those rumors until after he got religion.
He does have a good memory and people who cared about that stuff for him though. So it also makes sense for him to just remember that stuff(or have a talk with his advisers about it).
 
Yeah, nothing new there, just formalized.

As for our current troubles, I actually assumed we'd probably pen a letter to Magnus and the Trident before we go, to the effect of: "saw something spoopy in the forest, going to deal with it"
But nothing beyond that because as far as Freddy can tell this is just a local, if ominous problem that needs to be nipped in the bud.
 
I mean. If the Emperor had to personally intervene or even be made aware of every time an adventuring party, witch hunter group, wizard clade, or priest found a shrine to Chaos, or a Chaos plot, or some dark 'spot' filled with the blessings of the Dark Gods or what have you was discovered in the Empire, Magnus would literally have no time for anything else at all. It would just be reading letters and trying to micromanage millions of lives.

The Blood Fane is a pretty significant shrine, but it's not like it's the only 'pretty significant shrine' ever, yeah?
 
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I mean. If the Emperor had to personally intervene or even be made aware of every time an adventuring party, witch hunter group, wizard clade, or priest found a shrine to Chaos, or a Chaos plot, or some dark 'spot' filled with the blessings of the Dark Gods or what have you was discovered in the Empire, Magnus would literally have no time for anything else at all. It would just be reading letters and trying to micromanage millions of lives.

The Blood Fane is a pretty significant shrine, but it's not like it's the only 'pretty significant shrine' ever, yeah?
Helps we have Witch Hunters there-they can and will report in for us, their bosses can report it to Magnus, etc, etc.
 
The front page has 3 new names.

Stephanie von Hohenzollern (female)

Freya von Hohenzollern (female)

Wolfila von Hohenzollern (male)
 
Did we lose the ability to get koumiss from Kislev? It's marked off in the available alcohol page. We also lost the eleven wine due to Marienburg not liking us. Bastards.

We got to get our alcohol game up.
 
Did we lose the ability to get koumiss from Kislev? It's marked off in the available alcohol page. We also lost the eleven wine due to Marienburg not liking us. Bastards.

We got to get our alcohol game up.
We never had koumiss available. Marienburg doesn't matter until we remove their spy network in the North, or whatever our intrigue chain would do.
 
Did we lose the ability to get koumiss from Kislev? It's marked off in the available alcohol page. We also lost the eleven wine due to Marienburg not liking us. Bastards.

We got to get our alcohol game up.
Koumiss is a drink of Ungol origin, we likely won't be able to gain access to it until a decent population of Ungols move to our territory, since the majority of the Kislevites in Ostland are likely Gospodar.
 
Named after the original king of the Udoses who swore himself to Sigmar, big name to live up to and I'm sure he will since Ostlander stubbornness being what it is he won't let something like poor health keep him down.
Not really, I blame GW, while the Wolfila you're talking about is described as a warrior at the first battle of black fire pass. The fight that killed him is probably closer to 'history lied about Wolfila being a great warrior'.

From the wiki's Norscan page...
King Wolfilla had all but thrown open the gates of his castle of Salzenhus when Cormac slit the throat of his wife, who was heavy with child. The Norsii then dragged the king out of his hall and crucified him, and threw the still living members of his family to burn alive upon a pyre. Cormac Bloodaxe would later reflect upon this and say that no man so weak and soft should have been made a leader of men

Or I'm just misreading what happened?
 
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Not really, I blame GW, while the Wolfila you're talking about is described as a warrior at the first battle of black fire pass. The fight that killed him is probably closer to 'history lied about Wolfila being a great warrior'.

From the wiki's Norscan page...


Or I'm just misreading what happened?
The Wolfila from the Norscan page could have been the father of the Wolfila who died at Blackfire Pass possibly.
 
Not really, I blame GW, while the Wolfila you're talking about is described as a warrior at the first battle of black fire pass. The fight that killed him is probably closer to 'history lied about Wolfila being a great warrior'.

From the wiki's Norscan page...


Or I'm just misreading what happened?
Wrong guy, look at WHF wikia page on Udoses and it will mention their king.
 
Really, I was just going by what Marlin said about him dying there, where did he die?
Ah, cause the confusion is my fault.

Wolfila, the udose king who joined with Sigmar. That guy fought at Black Fire Pass, and lived past that.

On the WHF wiki on the Sigmar page, Cornac Bloodaxe would about a couple years (9 IC) after first battle of blackfire pass lead norsii into udose land, and kill the udose king, which should be named Wolfila. The Norscan page on WHF says a Wolfila got crucified by norsii, because the Udoses leader was possibily a coward that couldn't fight?

The wiki is mean, because some info, like Sigmar fought Nagash is missing from where you expect to find it.


Wrong guy, look at WHF wikia page on Udoses and it will mention their king.
Says Wolfila.
 
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We also lost the elven wine due to Marienburg not liking us. Bastards.
What? But that doesn't make any sense, the reason why Marienburg doesn't like us is because we got elven traders coming to Salkalten whenever the season permits. We shouldn't be getting elven wine from Marienburg, we should be getting it directly from the Asur themselves(specifically Aurelion's family since they are the ones who trade with us).

If we lost the wine, it shouldn't be because of Marienburg but because of something going on in Ulthuan. The only thing Marienburg controls is our access to Norscan Mead because we don't trade with Norscans.
 
We were already kind of doing the first part what with our inviting Estalians fleeing their country from marauding agents of evil. It's part of the reason why we now have the Street of Steel.

We could try to do another "your loss, my gain" thing and spit in the Sigmarite/Ulrican push to reduce the Myrmidian influence network in the Empire by inviting them in but I can't imagine the Sigmarite and Ulrican clergy would be pleased by this.
Granted, we could probably get away with it due to Freddy being Freddy but annoying the two most powerful religions in the Empire might lower our odds of getting Arthur's order of the Garden or the Ostlander branch of the Esmereldan faith represented at future Conclaves any time soon(or increase it if the southern Cult of Morr approves of our being sympathetic to Tilean/Estalian influences in the Empire).

Also, kind of hard to tell if people are doing secret society stuff without heavy surveillance or luck. What with the existence of such a society being secret and all.

He does have a good memory and people who cared about that stuff for him though. So it also makes sense for him to just remember that stuff(or have a talk with his advisers about it).


It's important that there are niches for the various deities, though there can be overlap so that followers, priests, etc. of one god, can work with and aid the followers of others in certain areas.

As has been mentioned in 'Other Gods' piety action in recent turns, "Verena is the Goddess of Knowledge, Science, Law and Justice" and Myrmidia, on top of being a war goddess is, "a Goddess of Wisdom, Beauty, and Honor, and perhaps just Civilization".

Freddy is working out the kinks of Ostland law. That seems right up Verena's alley. Even after the mess that the current laws are is finally finished, a goddess of Law is a good thing to keep it from becoming a tangled mess again.

Frederick did note that either goddess might be suited for the purposes of Ostland engineers. If that printing press we bought is reproduced we'll probably start making more books. Expansion of knowledge, science, etc. is Verena's turf and wisdom is Myrmidia's.


We have a school of gunnery and engineering in Ostland, but if Verena/Myrmidia and knowledge/wisdom/etc. become more valued perhaps that could lead to a proper university in one of the provinces of the Northern Trident sometime in the future.

Ulric and Sigmar are war gods and venerated by martial types, but there's room for Myrmidia in that part too. Potential for synergy, even. The warhammer fantasy wiki I looked at indicates she's more about the art and science of war.


I don't doubt there will be some Ulricans and Sigmarites that push back, regardless. But it could be worth it.
 
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