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So yeah pretty sure it's been well over 12 hours so @torroar here's the final name tally: as expected looks like we're leaving the names up to you.
Adhoc vote count started by Zrayz10 on Jan 8, 2019 at 9:29 AM, finished with 74378 posts and 70 votes.
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Woooinion said:
From the description, Magnus' son is just small and frail.
No twist to his flesh or anything that would label him a borderline mutant.
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torroar said:
There is a twist and shrink to his limbs that are clearly of issue to him. But above all else, he is small. Unlike the other two, he does not breath calmly, or even cleanly. There is a faint cough to him in this moment, even in his sleep.
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There is however, a twist to his limbs. Enough to be a problem.

Also the breathing issue, it's probably going to be hell on his stamina.

Mind, this probably just translates in a Martial penalty and a diplo malus with Ulricans.
 
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The next generation seems alright. Poor boys surrounded by sisters. There are what 3 boys now? For 6 girls?
 
torroar said:
Well, let's revisit this Potentially Helpful Descriptive Aid that is linked on Frederick's section of the front page.

Add some more muscle mass to that, about 15 pounds worth, and smooth it out so that, again, it is more idealized than grotesque. Due to, well, those 15 pounds being divinely grafted. Taller by five inches. Mmm. Wolfgang is a Wizard Lord and she quite literally had to put him back together and in some cases recreate certain sections wholesale (such as face, head flesh+skin, certain portions of skull, for instance), plus the dwarf ensoulment stuff, exposure to various energies with the False Throne, plus continual Jade workings daily due to Hohenzollern Sparring, plus preservative dwarf ales.

He looks like...a very good early 40s, I suppose? With Natasha looking middle 40s due to much of the same if less in magnitude plus her own inherent metaphysical makeup being altered by her ice magic. Anna looks like early 20s, as does Alexandra, though in obvious different ways. Mmm, well, part of the skin quality on Anna is because the lack of facial expressions keeping stuff smooth...eh. Kattarin is impossible to say for exact certain, despite mechanically knowing her age, she appears somehow the same as she did in her twenties. Likely as a result of her magic altering her. Jade Wizards sometimes get green skin, Bright Wizards get wriggly tattoos, Hierophants sometimes get semi-translucent skin...those connected to the ice get their own weird stuff.
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It's funny that Freddy had a lot of the magic in him ripped out, and pretty much right after, just like before he's getting more regularly pumped in without even thinking about it. :lol
 
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Moving forward I look forward to to rumor mill later.

Still surprised waaagh in south hasn't moved north yet but I guess still busy fighting other greenskins and the skaven, not complaining per say but worrying in own way.

Also assuming big Magnus feels need to call one there will be another Meet in a couple turns, since no big things needed on our part could focus on making connections or...

@torroar possibly dumb question but does Arthur take part in that big multi-cult conclave big Magnus set up? Is one coming up and through him ask if other major priests willing to help us with Blood Fane or other things? Not sure if any rules about non-priests/not Magnus being able to attend or not.
 
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Massgamer said:
Moving forward I look forward to to rumor mill later.

Still surprised waaagh in south hasn't moved north yet but I guess still busy fighting other greenskins and the skaven, not complaining per say but worrying in own way.

Also assuming big Magnus feels need to call one there will be another Meet in a couple turns, since no big things needed on our part could focus on making connections or...

@torroar possibly dumb question but does Arthur take part in that big multi-cult conclave big Magnus set up? Is one coming up and through him ask if other major priests willing to help us with Blood Fane or other things? Not sure if any rules about non-priests/not Magnus being able to attend or not.
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1. The point of a WAAAAGH!! is to find a fight, and fight it.

They're currently fighting.

I don't see the issue, and neither would they.

2. Arthur's been busy with doing his own thing. He trusts that the other High Priests of Morr are perfectly capable of doing what needs to be done at the Grand Conclaves.

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Plus, they're chosen representatives of the cult. It's not just 'Every High Priest in the Empire of each cult'. That'd be ridiculous and logistically untenable.
 
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Torroar, since we secured the Blood Fane earlier than expected and all of our Piety options are locked next turn, can we have some actions next turn to call on our allies, and inform Magnus, because I can safely predict that preparing to destroy the Fane will cause Malagor to attempt to invade Ostland to try and stop us? We will need all the forces in our province that we can get, since Malagor is a very influential figure among the Beastmen who can call on a large amount of forces, and he will have two years to prepare for an invasion.
 
EyeOfSauron said:
Torroar, since we secured the Blood Fane earlier than expected and all of our Piety options are locked next turn, can we have some actions next turn to call on our allies, and inform Magnus, because I can safely predict that preparing to destroy the Fane will cause Malagor to attempt to invade Ostland to try and stop us? We will need all the forces in our province that we can get, since Malagor is a very influential figure among the Beastmen who can call on a large amount of forces, and he will have two years to prepare for an invasion.
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Do the major events of the world revolve around Ostland?

Is there proof Malagor will try to take back the Blood Fane when they ditched Ostland after KU?

Is there proof Malagor knows we took the Blood Fane?

Is there proof that Malagor can attack Ostland to regain the Blood Fane with a massive unseen beastman horde at any time?

Is there proof Freddy cannot keep the Blood Fane without calling for emperor Magnus?
 
Marlin said:
Do the major events of the world revolve around Ostland?

Is there proof Malagor will try to take back the Blood Fane when they ditched Ostland after KU?

Is there proof Malagor knows we took the Blood Fane?

Is there proof that Malagor can attack Ostland to regain the Blood Fane with a massive unseen beastman horde at any time?

Is there proof Freddy cannot keep the Blood Fane without calling for emperor Magnus?
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I suggested these because the Blood Fane is obviously a major Chaos Shrine, and we know that Malagor is connected. Malagor is a very powerful magic user who would probably be able to sense that the Fane is in danger if he was not already informed by the Chaos Gods. I recommended informing Magnus so that he knows what we discovered and why we would be mobilizing. In terms of Malagor sneaking in a warherd, there are multiple provinces with thick forests nearby where Malagor can sneak in through the Beast-Paths. All of these reasons combined with the fact that choosing to destroy the Fane will obviously be a major plot device, are we should be prepared for the worst.
 
EyeOfSauron said:
I suggested these because the Blood Fane is obviously a major Chaos Shrine, and we know that Malagor is connected. Malagor is a very powerful magic user who would probably be able to sense that the Fane is in danger if he was not already informed by the Chaos Gods. I recommended informing Magnus so that he knows what we discovered and why we would be mobilizing. In terms of Malagor sneaking in a warherd, there are multiple provinces with thick forests nearby where Malagor can sneak in through the Beast-Paths. All of these reasons combined with the fact that choosing to destroy the Fane will obviously be a major plot device, are we should be prepared for the worst.
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You are not treating the Blood Fane as something we don't know.

We do not know that Malagor can sense the Blood Fane is in danger. We do not know if the Blood Fane being endangered can be sensed anywhere in the world. We don't even know if we can destroy the blood fane. We do not know the Blood Fane is valued at all to send a massive army to save it.

Malagor, for him to save the BF, would have at most one year of build up if the knowledge of it's new owner reached him at the end of this turn. Then Malagor launches an attack with no further build-up. And we take the priest action.

Those provinces have patrols. Malagor sneaking in a warherd at once can be noticied. Nordland has Stephan's safety patrols. MM route has Middenland's pride. Leaving Hochland, and Talabecland. Someone should notice a massive warherd, and be obligated to slow it down.

Magnus being told is something I don't want, because he should already know. He has magic spies in our province. I'm just a little unhappy that we can't protect ourselves without a desire to grab more security blankets. (We have an army, magic help, priests, witch hunters, border patrol, fortified settlements, mercenaries, and still someone suggests we can't face a threat without the emperor.)
 
Marlin said:
You are not treating the Blood Fane as something we don't know.

We do not know that Malagor can sense the Blood Fane is in danger. We do not know if the Blood Fane being endangered can be sensed anywhere in the world. We don't even know if we can destroy the blood fane. We do not know the Blood Fane is valued at all to send a massive army to save it.

Malagor, for him to save the BF, would have at most one year of build up if the knowledge of it's new owner reached him at the end of this turn. Then Malagor launches an attack with no further build-up. And we take the priest action.

Those provinces have patrols. Malagor sneaking in a warherd at once can be noticied. Nordland has Stephan's safety patrols. MM route has Middenland's pride. Leaving Hochland, and Talabecland. Someone should notice a massive warherd, and be obligated to slow it down.

Magnus being told is something I don't want, because he should already know. He has magic spies in our province. I'm just a little unhappy that we can't protect ourselves without a desire to grab more security blankets. (We have an army, magic help, priests, witch hunters, border patrol, fortified settlements, mercenaries, and still someone suggests we can't face a threat without the emperor.)
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You do have a fair point, I am simply advocating that we have extra forces and not need them, than to need extra forces and not have them. I'm going to be busy for a few hours so I won't be able to discuss this with you for a little while.
 
Hokay. Since I realized I hadn't, and should have, I now have done something I should have been. Grand Conclave mentions have been added to several Rumor Mill/Results posts throughout the threadmarks.

2304 [Turn 1]/2309 [Turn 6]/2314 [Turn 11]/2319 [Turn 16]/2324 [Turn 21]/2329 [Turn 25]/2334 [Turn 30] now all possess mentions of the Grand Conclave. A bit retroactive, but I feel I made them fit properly. They will be added to things going forward.

Bleh, just one more thing to keep track of that I didn't and should have been. Ugh, the amount of things that could have been done involving Conclave stuff in the past...geh.
 
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EyeOfSauron said:
I suggested these because the Blood Fane is obviously a major Chaos Shrine, and we know that Malagor is connected. Malagor is a very powerful magic user who would probably be able to sense that the Fane is in danger if he was not already informed by the Chaos Gods. I recommended informing Magnus so that he knows what we discovered and why we would be mobilizing. In terms of Malagor sneaking in a warherd, there are multiple provinces with thick forests nearby where Malagor can sneak in through the Beast-Paths. All of these reasons combined with the fact that choosing to destroy the Fane will obviously be a major plot device, are we should be prepared for the worst.
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Nearby? Ostland is a province filled with evil, ancient and thick forest that we have barely begun to choke back. With even fairly notable settlements like Jegow struggling to push back the dark shadows cast by its branches.

If the Beast-Paths are functioning in a manner akin to the Worldroots, the neighbouring provinces don't really matter as much aside from them increasing the global Beastman population capacity. If they don't? We already have lined our borders and roads with a lot of forts.

Frankly, we should probably be contacting the Colleges, the Cults and the Elves(Wood or High, either/or) for this(though the Witch Hunters probably already sent word to the Cult of Sigmar so we may see them approach us) if we want help.
Emperor Magnus should be informed of our find, sure. But more as a "we found [problem], we're doing [things] in an attempt to solve [problem], we think you should know this from us because you are our liege." than a direct request for aid(if he wants to send any, that's fine but let the man focus on herding cats the Empire into unity).
 
Qeqre said:
Nearby? Ostland is a province filled with evil, ancient and thick forest that we have barely begun to choke back. With even fairly notable settlements like Jegow struggling to push back the dark shadows cast by its branches.

If the Beast-Paths are functioning in a manner akin to the Worldroots, the neighbouring provinces don't really matter as much aside from them increasing the global Beastman population capacity. If they don't? We already have lined our borders and roads with a lot of forts.

Frankly, we should probably be contacting the Colleges, the Cults and the Elves(Wood or High, either/or) for this(though the Witch Hunters probably already sent word to the Cult of Sigmar so we may see them approach us) if we want help.
Emperor Magnus should be informed of our find, sure. But more as a "we found [problem], we're doing [things] in an attempt to solve [problem], we think you should know this from us because you are our liege." than a direct request for aid(if he wants to send any, that's fine but let the man focus on herding cats the Empire into unity).
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I agree, that is also why next turn we need to pick as many options that cut down trees as possible to reduce amount of forest that the Beastmen can sneak through.
 
So apparently the current Grand Conclave the Empire nearly booted out the Cult of Myrmidia due to the widespread influence the Knights of Magritta in the shadows that currently color the perceptions of this cult. With the current infighting I really pity those that have been forced to fight to what each consider their brother-in-arms in whether to unite Estalia or fight Araby. So we might see in the rumor mill on what happened to that knightly order and the reaction to the near loss of sanction as an approved cult of the Empire. Or we'll just see more infighting as wont those south of the Empire usually do.
 
torroar said:
2304 [Turn 1]/2309 [Turn 6]/2314 [Turn 11]/2319 [Turn 16]/2324 [Turn 21]/2329 [Turn 25]/2334 [Turn 30] now all possess mentions of the Grand Conclave. A bit retroactive, but I feel I made them fit properly. They will be added to things going forward.
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Just so everyone can see them in one post:
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First Grand Conclave Concludes: It was the will of the Emperor, Magnus the Pious, he who unified the Empire once more and struck down the Everchosen Kul, that the priests of the Empire's Gods come and meet. The cults have never truly been peaceful, for this is not a peaceful world. When the rarely come together and agree on some topic, there is always another upon which they will willingly bicker and fight about. And lo, there was been too much bloodshed amongst the Empire when the cults go to war against one another. Sometimes even against themselves. But under noble Magnus' eye, perhaps this will change. Every five years, so has the Emperor decreed, they will come - chosen representatives of the cults - to Nuln. There, they shall work out their issues one way or another. In fact, it is not theological discussion that shall be the topic at all, but rather pressing matters, the common issues, day-to-day problems, that shall be earnestly investigated. Including how they affect the Empire itself. One can only hope that the Emperor will be able to keep the peace amongst them!
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Grand Conclave of 2309: While this year featured the first Elector's Meet that held the Counts and Countesses of the entire Empire, so too did Nuln host the second of the Grand Conclaves. The Grand Theogonist and Ar-Ulric, highest representatives of the gods Sigmar and Ulric in the whole of the Empire, nearly came to blows it is said before being personally separated by the Emperor. Though obviously much of the decisions made will be unknown to the greater whole of the Empire, there is a general sense of unified hope that the Emperor was able to host the event at all. An appreciable number of Hierarch's of Taal and Rhya especially attended after personal entreaties of the Emperor, ensuring that two of the oldest Gods in the Empire received proper attention in the Conclave. Other matters, such as tithing rates and tithing rights, were especially under discussion. The greater Empire will likely never truly make note of the differences made here, but they are most certainly important.
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Grand Conclave Concludes Early: Barely a handful of days into the week-long discussions, the news from the north of the Empire sent the various high priests scrambling. Vast amounts of Morrite support have appeared from the direction of Tilea, while the Emperor himself took towards marshaling his troops to head towards Ostland. The various religious representatives seemed to be accepting of this. Many, such as the Grand Theogonist and Ar-Ulric, turned towards rallying their respective cults to the war that is even now brewing. Those of Taal disappeared into the forests once more, making strange vague promises of aid, though whether this will amount to anything is unknown. What has been established twice now to be a respectable series of celebrations has been unjustly cut apart, all because of those damn conniving monstrous blood suckers! If you feel the need to earn favor with the Gods and do your duty as a man of the Empire, advance posthaste to one of the various recruiting offices opened up across the whole of the southern Empire. The Emperor is counting on you!
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Grand Conclave Of 2319 Sparsely Attended: With the Grand Theogonist of Sigmar and the Ar-Ulric both out in the field leading their troops, it was subordinate High Priests who were sent to the Grand Conclave this year. There was not even an Arch Lector of Sigmar that could rightly be said to have taken up the duties that the Grand Theogonist normally does. As such, the Grand Conclave was highly unusual this year. Those with the authority to make major sweeping decisions were not present, and as such only smaller localized issues could even begun to be tackled. As far as anyone can tell, it was an anemic affair with little to say for itself in terms of success this year. However, that it continued at all is perhaps a success all on its own. Without some of the more bombastic personalities present, the Emperor was able to wholly keep the peace amongst all of those priests attending. A far cry from the wars that the cults have fought against one another in the past. Hail to Magnus, it seems.
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Grand Conclave of 2324: The past few years have seen much growth in the number of Morrite representatives at the Grand Conclave. After all, with the fighting in Sylvania, and the previous fighting in Ostland, never in centuries has the threat of the undead and the pervasive issue of necromancy been so important. Magic itself has been banned at the Conclave, either its demonstration or workings whatsoever, of which the fighting has just proven one more reason. A reasonable amount of pushing by the Shallyans has also come up recently. Many of their works in the Empire have been personally sponsored by the Emperor himself, such as improved sanitariums and the like. Time will tell if the effort is worth it, but the devotees of Shallya are likely to continue to work for their fellow man regardless. It is something admirable in their priesthood, after all. While different day-to-day matters were spoken of, most found themselves rightfully bent towards those two gods. In fact, a remarkable amount of synergy was found between the two groups, for is not Morr the father of Shallya? It is only right for the father and daughter to work together especially on matters of life and death, those two utter constants in this tumultuous world of ours.
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Grand Conclave Of 2329: This year, Taal was in clear ascendance. His favor showed itself well across the God's named province, and in that of his followers. This was only complimented by the attendance of all the Hierarch's of the Empire to the Grand Conclave this year. They spoke much on protected groves, areas of nature that required legal protection from over-hunting, natural springs that needed to be unspoiled, and the like. All things that matter significantly to the Empire's daily life, and things worth discussing. Unlike the last Grand Conclave, both the Ar-Ulric and Grand Theogonist attended as well. With the conclusion of the fighting in Sylvania, they were unrestricted in their ability to attend, alongside numerous prominent high priests and both Arch Lectors attending as well. Some considered inviting representatives of the so-called Order of the Garden, the newest sect of Morr, but those of Morr already attending disagreed. They were, as of yet, still somewhat recognizable as of Morr's cult, and as such were already being represented. Others say that, for all the Emperor has spoken repeatedly about removing the politics from the conversation, that some did not want a Hohenzollern coming south. Arthur von Hohenzollern might not have been his father or his brother Magnus, but numerous reports from Sylvania have spoken towards his ability to harness the infamous Ostland furies when it comes to his faith.
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Grand Conclave of 2334: Only one topic could truly be said to have dominated the Grand Conclave this year. Myrmidia. A foreign Goddess, one invited into the Empire many years ago, further allowed its representatives into the Grand Conclave by the ever-kind Magnus the Pious. But the reveal of the Knights of Magritta, a clearly and wholly Myrmidian organization, one who had agents amongst the populace from peasants to knights to even some lords and higher merchants? A very serious issue indeed. Rumors from servants attending in Nuln say that this years Grand Conclave was less a communal meaning and closer to an informal trial! The Myrmidians, even lesser in number as some of their highest representatives were part of the Knights and are now departed from the Empire, put up a valiant effort at the least. Obviously, all of the cults have their informants, their agents, but this, so wide-spread, all bent towards pushing vast amounts of men and materials for a war long over and done? Very concerning indeed! And especially at a time like this, when there are far more important threats to the Empire! Some of the more cynical folk say that part of it is genuine outrage, but far more is just a farce to cast doubt and pressure upon the cult and stymie its growing influence and wealth in the Empire. And also to deflect accusations of the same. The Cult of Myrmidia did not find itself ejected from the Empire, however, despite some certain zealot hopes, and has not been barred from attending future Conclaves. Time will tell if they will be able to repair their damaged reputations. In the meantime, the sudden disappearance of so many of their members has allowed the Cult of Sigmar and Ulric to make up significant lost ground, in terms of both new tithes and declarations of worship.
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torroar said:
Bleh, just one more thing to keep track of that I didn't and should have been. Ugh, the amount of things that could have been done involving Conclave stuff in the past...geh.
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Don't be so hard or push yourself so much. You writing in general is awesome and you already give us so much so never think that you are not doing enough.

While I will admit having some insight on Grand Conclaves very interesting just don't overwork yourself.

Edit: Since we are currently learning more about Myrmidia and they are currently in disfavor wonder if we can't let them settle in Ostland as long as they don't pull secret society stuff.
 
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