Warhammer Fantasy: A Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism

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Gunthar still doesn't like us all that much. Like at all. So while not impossible now that he's realized a good amount of that hate came from bad information a match wouldn't exactly be easy to swing (he still doesn't like Natasha and her side of the family after all and he and Freddy just don't like each other).

Maybe Logan.

Gunthar: Like hell I'd let one of my children marry one of yours.

Freddy: Oh look, my killblender son who is blessed by Ulric with physical signs of it.

Gunthar: *twitch*


With matches being brought up I can't help but think of Alexandra and Anna. They're pushing thirty but they're not too old, dammit! Though it would probably be easier to find someone looking to marry up. Maybe a lower Northern Trident noble, somebody willing to move to them.

Alexandra is busy, but the benefit of having a spouse is having a partner to help. She needs to find some guy (or we find one for her) willing to give up the martial life (mostly) and become a proper house husband.


As for Anna, she is a 'widow', but her emotions are muted. She would see the reasons for a match and more children. The trick is finding someone who finds a lack of emotions normal. Maybe a bureaucrat. :lol
 
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I have a little bit of a mechanics question. How would we 'the players' gain a lower score of our spouses? We know that our spouses can have lower opinion of 'us' than our player character has of them, but how does the reverse work? For example, should the worst happen and our spouse dies and our player character has to remarry and the new spouse has very high opinion of the player character, but at that time we wouldn't share the same.

How do we rise our own opinion of the the new spouse? Just a little niggle in the back of my brain.
 
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I have a little bit of a mechanics question. How would we 'the players' gain a lower score of our spouses? We know that our spouses can have lower opinion that than our player character, but how does the reverse work? For example, should the worst happen and our spouse dies and our player character has to remarry and the new spouse has very high opinion of the player character, but at that time we wouldn't share the same.

How do we rise our own opinion of the the new spouse? Just a little niggle in the back of my brain.
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Well, it would probably be reflected in the narration and such. People that Frederick doesn't like, he tends to be biased against in his thoughts.
 
Those would take the place of various personal actions, more likely than not. Trying to find places of commonality, shared interests, that sort of thing. With chances of success that would be related to whether or not it works out - as in the connection is forged, the affection is a bit more natural, edges/friction smoothed away. That sort of thing? With failure, in that specific instance - high opinion of spouse vs. lower opinion of pc - going forward, falling onto the characters's own failure at their attempt at changing their own mentality and feelings, rather than the opposite.
 
spudman said:
With matches being brought up I can't help but think of Alexandra and Anna. They're pushing thirty but they're not too old, dammit! Though it would probably be easier to find someone looking to marry up. Maybe a lower Northern Trident noble, somebody willing to move to them.
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I mean, with Alexandra that's entirely a function of the fact that betrothals take personal actions, and we only have so many per turn. Frankly, they should be free actions when they come of age for planning purposes.
 
Whose to say that Natasha hasn't been feeling things out for a while?

Anna's got no biters, at this point, but there is some vague interest in Alexandra. Lots of it Kislevite in nature.
 
Anna has no biters? How dare they not attempt to woo our daughter, who makes a remarkable number of things fly and an even more remarkable number of things explode and who also happens to have an incredibly intimidating father and two incredibly intimidating brothers all of whom along with her share a remarkable predilection for berserker rages and tearing enemies of Man into itty-bitty pieces...

...I mean, that's sort of appealing, if you go for that sort of thing...?
 
torroar said:
Whose to say that Natasha hasn't been feeling things out for a while?

Anna's got no biters, at this point, but there is some vague interest in Alexandra. Lots of it Kislevite in nature.
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Inb4 Anna takes remedial training because going too far south risks making her feel the depression it was an efficient method of killing Skaven and Greenskins even when she was out of practice at Karak Ungor, learns the new combined hag/ice witch lore and becomes a biologically immortal hag to tinker on engineering forever.

Miffychan said:
Anna has no biters? How dare they not attempt to woo our daughter, who makes a remarkable number of things fly and an even more remarkable number of things explode and who also happens to have an incredibly intimidating father and two incredibly intimidating brothers all of whom along with her share a remarkable predilection for berserker rages and tearing enemies of Man into itty-bitty pieces...

...I mean, that's sort of appealing, if you go for that sort of thing...?
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She's still an Ice Mage. Legally a Kislevite priest in the Empire, too Imperial for Kislevite tastes and too magical for any Imperials.
 
Well...I think the whole no emotions thing would weird most people out, plus there is the whole thing about 'being' a widow and having a child. And the foreign priest thing. Yeah, our daughters aren't exactly 'standard stock' for marriage proposals.
 
MonkeyTypewriter said:
I mean, with Alexandra that's entirely a function of the fact that betrothals take personal actions, and we only have so many per turn. Frankly, they should be free actions when they come of age for planning purposes.
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I don't think there's been personal action for matches from Freddy's view since before Magnus got hitched.

torroar said:
Whose to say that Natasha hasn't been feeling things out for a while?

Anna's got no biters, at this point, but there is some vague interest in Alexandra. Lots of it Kislevite in nature.
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Yeah, I kind of figured there would be more options in Kislev for Alexandra, but thought there would be some interest from nobles or prominent knights in Ostermark and Ostland.

Hmm, should Freddy get involved in this for either one?

For Anna he could toss an (army, so he has some martial leaning) bureaucrat, accountant, or architect at Anna. They'd 'hit it off' going over paperwork or blueprints or something. :lol

Oh, crazy/random thought. Draken von Kessel's betrothal was broken years ago...but just because he's a Bright Wizard doesn't mean he can't be a consort to Anna or Alexandra. Fire and Ice. So long as they're slinging spells at each other it should be fine. :p
 
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I'm thankful we have Natasha and didn't lose her near the beginning with Zack's attack. Also thankful Freddy got a spouse that wasn't actively seeking to undermine him or hated him in general.

I imagine if we were super unlucky could have gotten internal family intrigue and that shit is always messy and nasty. Of course chances of that happening increases more family members and branch families there are.
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Anna's got no biters, at this point, but there is some vague interest in Alexandra. Lots of it Kislevite in nature.
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Anna understandable due to muted emotions on top of everything else.

I imagine that Alexandra is seen as a dangerous catch since she is a notable agent of Kat who has a very scary rep.
 
Massgamer said:
I imagine that Alexandra is seen as a dangerous catch since she is a notable agent of Kat who has a very scary rep.
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Kat is the Tzarina and matriarch of the most powerful family in Kislev. Yeah, there's a strong opposing faction, but her faction is in charge. Those looking to stay on her side, or looking to come in from the figurative (possibly literal, it is Kislev) cold and get on her good side would be interested.
 
spudman said:
Oh, crazy/random thought. Draken von Kessel's betrothal was broken years ago...but just because he's a Bright Wizard doesn't mean he can't be a consort to Anna or Alexandra. Fire and Ice. So long as they're slinging spells at each other it should be fine. :p
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torroar said:
The fire mage inherently repulses the user of ice magic on a bedrock deep level, the user of ice magic makes the fire mage inherently unhappy and weak, the two of them, presumably, have relations by way of force on the part of one or the other or a third party who is making them.
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General rule of thumb with regards to engaging Ice Magic users with Fire magic users: Don't.
 
...this gotta be the most stupidest question in my entire life, so excuse me for asking.

But, uh, how does Freddy look like right now? Being someone who has Eight grandsons I would imagine him to have a few wrinkle here and there.

But he also has Sigmar's Mien thing. Which, as I remember, rejuvenates him.

So how does he look like right now? Someone in their 40s 30s ish?
 
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We have an excellent academic base being built further.
From the description, Magnus' son is just small and frail.
No twist to his flesh or anything that would label him a borderline mutant.

He can still lead a good, and valuable life.

I'm pretty happy that Sabine having triplets went as well as it has.

Also.
Man, there must be something in the water to produce so many multi-births.

IRL, multibirths are disproportionately common now because invitero fertilization often includes the implantation of multiple embryos to increase the probability of success.

Even then, the Hollenzorns are exceptional, not even mentioning how dangerous it is.
 
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I really don't like this to be honest. The way that Kislev is a powder keg right now is just making me worry.
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On the other hand, we want Kat's faction to thrive. Not just because of family ties, but they're actually interested in and willing to adapt in the fight against Chaos, greenskins, etc. and work with the Empire.

A Kislev match could help.
 
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Jack vile Ripper said:
...this gotta be the most stupidest question in my entire life, so excuse me for asking.

But, uh, how does Freddy look like right now? Being someone who has Eight grandsons I would imagine him to have a few wrinkle here and there.

But he also has Sigmar's Mien thing. Which, as I remember, rejuvenates him.

So how does he look like right now? Someone in their 40s 30s ish?
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Well, let's revisit this Potentially Helpful Descriptive Aid that is linked on Frederick's section of the front page.

Add some more muscle mass to that, about 15 pounds worth, and smooth it out so that, again, it is more idealized than grotesque. Due to, well, those 15 pounds being divinely grafted. Taller by five inches. Mmm. Wolfgang is a Wizard Lord and she quite literally had to put him back together and in some cases recreate certain sections wholesale (such as face, head flesh+skin, certain portions of skull, for instance), plus the dwarf ensoulment stuff, exposure to various energies with the False Throne, plus continual Jade workings daily due to Hohenzollern Sparring, plus preservative dwarf ales.

He looks like...a very good early 40s, I suppose? With Natasha looking middle 40s due to much of the same if less in magnitude plus her own inherent metaphysical makeup being altered by her ice magic. Anna looks like early 20s, as does Alexandra, though in obvious different ways. Mmm, well, part of the skin quality on Anna is because the lack of facial expressions keeping stuff smooth...eh. Kattarin is impossible to say for exact certain, despite mechanically knowing her age, she appears somehow the same as she did in her twenties. Likely as a result of her magic altering her. Jade Wizards sometimes get green skin, Bright Wizards get wriggly tattoos, Hierophants sometimes get semi-translucent skin...those connected to the ice get their own weird stuff.
 
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