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To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)

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[X][NEW] Andorian Guard Constellation-class Shakalash - Combat (Fleet) team
[X][NEW] Commodore McCoy - Research (Medical) Team [May join another Research (Medical) Team for +2 Skill]

[X][KADESH] Join the attack with all available assets immediately

[X] Yorktown the Sarek
 
[X][NEW] Andorian Guard Constellation-class Shakalash - Combat (Fleet) team
[X][NEW] Commodore McCoy - Research (Medical) Team [May join another Research (Medical) Team for +2 Skill]

[X][KADESH] Join the attack with all available assets immediately

[X] Yorktown the Sarek

[X] Invite the Klingons to join the war
 
[X][NEW] Andorian Guard Constellation-class Shakalash - Combat (Fleet) team
[X][NEW] Commodore McCoy - Research (Medical) Team [May join another Research (Medical) Team for +2 Skill]

[X][KADESH] Join the attack with all available assets immediately

[X] Yorktown the Sarek

[X] Klingons. Please?
 
AKuz said:
does this require a change to a vote to get the klinks on board?
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I think if someone writes up a more serious form of this, we'll all be fine:

*Klingon bar, Federation walks in*

Federation: Klingons, we know you're busy, but could you have the bar open for when we get back?

Klingons: What, why?

Federation: We're going to *this* location for the greatest battle the Quadrant has ever seen, and we want to share war stories afterwords.

Klingons: And you're not inviting anyone else?

Klingons: Wait, that's in the Romulan Neutral Zone, what do they think of this?

Federation: They're helping.

Klingons: I don't think that's a thing.

Klingons: Why are you leaving?

Federation: I need to get there on time, see you afterwords.

Klingons: We're coming too, just let us get our stuff.

*Klingon walks into back room, away from sight*

*Romulan peeks head in*

Romulan: You enjoyed that way to much, didn't you?

Federation: maybe~
 
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OneirosTheWriter said:
I was going to say no.

But then ideas happened.

So you will have to see.

:V
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AKuz said:
I hope it's T'Lorel swinging by to pick them up. Because if the Klingons can respect any Vulcan, it's her, "HOP ON LOOSERS, WE'RE GOING BATTLING".

Then they show up and are big damn heroes > : V
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Klingon Captain 1: Federation vessel you are in vio- *watches as a torpedo volley fly's past*

T'Lorel: Attention Klingon fleet you are to prepare for emergency warp to the neutral zone.

Klingon Captain 2: Who do you thi-*watches as as second torpedo volley fly's past*

T'Lorel: Unfortunately I do not have the time to engage in your barbaric posturing we fly into battle in 15 minutes. Sarek over and out.

Klingon Captain 1/2 : ....:o

Klingon Captain 1: All she had to say there was battle to be had.

Klingon Captain 2: She didn't have to be so mean about it...
 
[X][NEW] Andorian Guard Constellation-class Shakalash - Combat (Fleet) team
[X][NEW] Commodore McCoy - Research (Medical) Team [May join another Research (Medical) Team for +2 Skill]

No-brainer votes, those. With a big battle coming up for the first, and... come'on, it's McCoy!

[X][KADESH] Join the attack with all available assets immediately

Going to take this one. Also:
Cornuthaum said:
We need to move now. We cannot allow potentially millions of survivors from the Biophage to be consumed.

No, we don't know whether or not there are survivors, but we are Starfleet and the United Federation of Planets. Doing the right thing is what we do.
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AKuz said:
Honestly I'd still go now even if we only saved 600,000 survivors frozen into cryotrays > : V
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(and others)

Going in guns blazing to search for the dim hope of survivors... is a very O'Hara decision. Just saying. Whether that is good, or not, is up to us, I guess.
(to jog your memory: he got busted down from Captain when he went against orders and saved 300 people... and doomed more than a thousand at the same time too, don't forget that.)
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At least the planet doesn't have warp drives.

[X] Don't Yorktown the Sarek
If I read the stats correctly... the Sarek has -1 shieLd. Against the Biophage, a minus one shield debuff is crazy shit.
Also, it is suffering from dead crew, and the morale problems of such.

IMO, As powerful a ship as that is, Don't send it in.

Xon said:
Any chance they are arranged in clans and have radical 3d-printing of entire starships in combat useful timeframes? ;)
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:V
 
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wkz said:
[X] Don't Yorktown the Sarek
If I read the stats correctly... the Sarek has -1 shieLd. Against the Biophage, a minus one shield is crazy shit.
Also, it is suffering from dead crew, and the morale problems of such.

IMO, As powerful a ship as that is, Don't send it in.

:V
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Stat line of the partially repaired Sarek:
C6 S7 H5 L5 P6 D6
Stat line of a normal Excelsior without veteran crew:
C6 S5 H4 L5 P5 D6

The crew more than compensates for the remaining damage.
 
Nix said:
The crew more than compensates for the remaining damage.
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... And the Biophage loves to nom on crew.
Edit: Should we send in a veteran crew, but in a "normal" Excelsior, so that "normal" Excelsior can suffer under shuttle waves, but with each hit we lose the much-more-valuable experienced crew?

... quite frankly, I don't know if we should. I'm searching for the post with the ship stats, but can't find it.
@OneirosTheWriter: are the crew's current competency applied to the ship stats directly (so both ship and crew are one), or are they an additional buff/debuff on top of those?
 
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wkz said:
... And the Biophage loves to nom on crew.
Should we send in a veteran crew, but in a "normal" Excelsior, so that "normal" Excelsior can suffer under shutter waves?

... quite frankly, I don't know if we should. I'm searching for the post with the ship stats, but can't find it.
@OneirosTheWriter: are the crew's current competency applied to the ship stats directly (so both ship and crew are one), or are they an additional buff/debuff on top of those?
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The front page lists the stats of our Exploration Corps ships with crew boni applied.

Here:
OneirosTheWriter said:
Exploration Corps
- USS Enterprise, Excelsior-class, Veteran (Elite), C9 S9 H7 L8 P10 D6
-- Captain: Nash ka'Sharren (+1 Crew Rating, -5 Political Will)
- USS Courageous, Excelsior-class, Veteran, C8 S8 H6 L7 P7 D6
-- Captain: Victoria Eaton, re-roll Mapping Events
- USS Sarek, Excelsior-class, Blooded, C7 S7 H6 L6 P6 D6
-- Captain: T'Lorel, re-roll first contact Events
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wkz said:
[X][NEW] Andorian Guard Constellation-class Shakalash - Combat (Fleet) team
[X][NEW] Commodore McCoy - Research (Medical) Team [May join another Research (Medical) Team for +2 Skill]

No-brainer votes, those. With a big battle coming up for the first, and... come'on, it's McCoy!

[X][KADESH] Join the attack with all available assets immediately

Going to take this one. Also:

(and others)

Going in guns blazing to search for the dim hope of survivors... is a very O'Hara decision. Just saying. Whether that is good, or not, is up to us, I guess.
(to jog your memory: he got busted down from Captain when he went against orders and saved 300 people... and doomed more than a thousand at the same time too, don't forget that.)
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At least the planet doesn't have warp drives.

[X] Don't Yorktown the Sarek
If I read the stats correctly... the Sarek has -1 shieLd. Against the Biophage, a minus one shield debuff is crazy shit.
Also, it is suffering from dead crew, and the morale problems of such.

IMO, As powerful a ship as that is, Don't send it in.

:V
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There are logical militarily sound reasons for going in right now as well. I do not want to give the Biophage a month to dig in. Whatever tech advances we gain would be offset by it having that many more ships and shuttles. Enterprise and the Romulans faced over seventy of the buggers (I asked when writing my thing) Imagine facing hundreds or thousands of suicide shuttles at once, instead of perhaps a few dozen. Better defenses don't matter if you are facing a hundred shuttles slamming into your hull. If you kill half, that's still fifty.

Even if Moral concerns were not an issue, I would still argue for going in hard and going in now.

As far as Sarak is concerned, the way combat works means that there is no way for the Biophage to focus fire on the vessel, and her combat in addition to the rest of fleet will help to throw up a wall of phaser fire. That extra 6/7 combat per round might help to destroy shuttle that would attrit our smaller vessels. Our Combat power snowballs with numbers like those on Sarek. We need her and T'lorel.

And on a sadder and harder note... losing Sarek and winning the battle is something that I would be able to live with.
 
I definitely understand why you would want to attack immediately.

That being said, might there be a less risky alternative? The update said these people were "relatively new to warp travel". Sounds to me like there is good chance they didn't have much tech capable of potentially detecting cloaked vessels... and the Beast has not necessarily built any of its own, it might not even have the ability. AFAIK it never assimilated that type of installation.

A cloaked Romulan ship acting with surprise on its side might very well be able to deliver a large number of tri-cobalt devices, or similarly destructive WMDs.

At the very least I would propose having a cloaked Romulan ship around that tries to sneak past the battle and deliver the package. If it succeeds, ideally while the fleets are still not doing more than skirmishing, we will be able to retreat afterwards if the battle is going poorly, while still having achieved the mission.
 
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Driven by Apathy said:
That being said, might there be a less risky alternative? The update said these people were "relatively new to warp travel". Sounds to me like there is good chance they didn't have much tech capable of potentially detecting cloaked vessels... and the Beast has not necessarily build any of its own, it might not even have the ability. AFAIK it never assimilated
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It assimilated on top of everything else a Federation crew, and not just any crew, a Starfleet crew.
There's more than a "almost absolutely certainly" chance it knows how to jam a Federation Warp Drive into this new civilization's shuttles/ships/whatever by now.

Just saying.
 
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Driven by Apathy said:
I definitely understand why you would want to attack immediately.

That being said, might there be a less risky alternative? The update said these people were "relatively new to warp travel". Sounds to me like there is good chance they didn't have much tech capable of potentially detecting cloaked vessels... and the Beast has not necessarily build any of its own, it might not even have the ability. AFAIK it never assimilated

A cloaked Romulan ship acting with surprise on its side might very well be able to deliver a large number of tri-cobalt devices, or similarly destructive WMDs.

At the very least I would propose having a cloaked Romulan ship around that tries to sneak past the battle and deliver the package. If it succeeds, ideally while the fleets are still not doing more than skirmishing, we will be able to retreat afterwards if the battle is going poorly, while still having achieved the mission.
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Problem is it'll take us at least 1 month to authorize & deliver the Tricobalt weapons to the front line, and if we wait another month the Beast gets another month to spam ships with its new planet.
 
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