To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
- Thread starter OneirosTheWriter
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Nervos Belli
Don't think this means you've won!
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- Murica
Keep in mind, although Enterprise doesn't have the diplomacy reroll, they have a whopping 10 presence. They're far more likely to get things right the first time around.
lbmaian
a thirsty squirrel
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- USA
There is the possibility that increased member world fleet defenses would delay garrison requirement increases in such sectors.
Hmm, tricky to say with all the different resources we're getting (including pp and rp), but overall, if we assume an average affiliate bonus of 10br 10sr 0.3O/E/T (including tech-based bonus) over 7 years (20 avg annual diplo rolls and some events), then it just might be enough to scrape together a ship or starbase to fulfill additional garrison requirements.
Eh that's overstating it. If it's anything like a typical designing/engineering project, less than half of the time is experimenting and setting up the base, and the rest is filling it out and baking it.
(And now I'm kinda hungry.)
Mbeki doesn't have a first contact bonus. He has a non-first contact bonus.
"A talented communicator and scientist, gain +1 Presence, re-roll non-First Contact Diplomacy."
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- Patriarchova
I'm willing to spend PP on a special diplomatic action that will let us do this thing.
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- Central Standard Time
AKuz
Been Better
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- A Rising Tide of Horrors
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- She/Her
*walks up to @OneirosTheWriter at breakfast and dumps her pile of omakes on his cereal*
"Hello Mr GMsman. Could I please exchange this for: 1 A Thing. Please?"
> : P
But seriously, I hope he considers the idea.
Random Member
Gardener of Human Happiness
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- Behind You
Wouldn't sending the Enterprise away from Federation space for an indeterminate amount of time weaken us pretty badly though?
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- Mid-Atlantic
Okay, but remember that we ALSO want good event response, which is the point I keep trying to make here. For event response it's desirable to have ships that can make it places in time, and that perform well when they get there. Look at our sector garrison events, and note how many of them come from the Excelsior flagships like Kumari.
Yeah, but that's one ship. Good enough for a place like Betazed that just adds a few points to our defense for an existing sector. But for a species like Rigel or the Caitians where we end up with a whole new sector to cover? It's nice, but we shouldn't kid ourselves into thinking it pays for itself that quickly.
So rushing a world to 300+ status for the extra resources is going to prove unwise. Five or so years later, that species is joining us, expecting us to immediately garrison a new sector. And the resources they gave us over the preceding years aren't enough to pay for a whole sector garrison fleet. Maybe a Centaur-A or even a cruiser, but that's not going to be enough.
The excited discovery that advancing species like the Amarki to 300+ status got us extra resource trickles is in large part responsible for our present growing pains, in hindsight. We got the trickles, but they didn't enable us to build enough ships quickly enough to cover all the garrison requirements we now have five years down the line from having added the Amarki, Rigel, Caitian, and soon the Apiata sectors.
Yeah. Noted and edited that into my last post I think. You're right.
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- Patriarchova
We don't yet know where the Kadeshi are going. For all we know, their promised land is already in our space.
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- Mid-Atlantic
(slightly edited to sound better)
I admit that I love the idea of us patting the Kadeshi refugee fleet on the head, making sure they remembered their mittens and lunchboxes, and sending the little tykes out to explore the galaxy. Bravely, the Kadeshi refugee fleet sets out to find a Promised Land in the Gamma Quadrant! Revving up their drives, they proceed to calmly, in perfect crisp formations, om nom nom their way across the galaxy in their fleet of boxy little von Neumann ships for sixty years...
Then the Bajoran wormhole opens up, and we learn that we accidentally broke the Dominion.
I admit that I love the idea of us patting the Kadeshi refugee fleet on the head, making sure they remembered their mittens and lunchboxes, and sending the little tykes out to explore the galaxy. Bravely, the Kadeshi refugee fleet sets out to find a Promised Land in the Gamma Quadrant! Revving up their drives, they proceed to calmly, in perfect crisp formations, om nom nom their way across the galaxy in their fleet of boxy little von Neumann ships for sixty years...
Then the Bajoran wormhole opens up, and we learn that we accidentally broke the Dominion.
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aeqnai
Nerdy Homu
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- Laniakea Supercluster
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God knows we should already have some clue about that, if like, literally anyone in the UFP has paid any attention to them at all. Actually...
@OneirosTheWriter is it feasible to ask the Kadeshi where they're headed and then make plans for what to do about their journey with that knowledge?
@OneirosTheWriter is it feasible to ask the Kadeshi where they're headed and then make plans for what to do about their journey with that knowledge?
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- Patriarchova
(slightly edited to sound better)
I admit that I love the idea of us patting the Kadeshi refugee fleet on the head, making sure they remembered their mittens and lunchboxes, and sending the little tykes out to explore the galaxy. Bravely, the Kadeshi refugee fleet sets out to find a Promised Land in the Gamma Quadrant! Revving up their drives, they proceed to calmly, in perfect crisp formations, om nom nom their way across the galaxy in their fleet of boxy little von Neumann ships for sixty years...
Then the Bajoran wormhole opens up, and we learn that we accidentally the Dominion.
"Nice try, assholes."
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- Mid-Atlantic
Hmph. Spoilsport.
Would you be willing to do an alternate one of "aack they are going Homeworld on us and we're cast as the Taiidan?"
[makes puppy eyes to best of ability]
Would you be willing to do an alternate one of "aack they are going Homeworld on us and we're cast as the Taiidan?"
[makes puppy eyes to best of ability]
AKuz
Been Better
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I think I like the idea because it shows that even in an Era where we are getting stuck in a messy Civil War and tensions are flaming up all over, Starfleet is still Starfleet and setting ships aside to wander off and stroll around the galaxy sniffing the flowers and poking things with sticks.
It helps keep sense of the excitement and adventure of Trek alive. Along with the more deadly serious business.
Also I guess I've added more omakes to my list (If only I wasn't working so much. Oh well. Phone typing it is):
1) Ka'Sharren says goodbye to Enterprise and changes the guard with Mrr'Shan. [IN PROGRESS]
2) The Romulan relationship with the Kadeshi. Not a full clients hip but the Romulans have an odd sense of fondness for them out of a feeling of... let's call it mythic nostalgia. Weather they help in the form of "We'll keep you in our thoughts and prayers", "Here have a D-7 or three. We were just going to scrap it anyway. You can use it for storage or whatever" or something in between is to be determined by higher powers.
3) Someone suggesting this idea to Starfleet Command. I'm probably going to use Kuznetsova for that. Though I may try to use someone else.
It helps keep sense of the excitement and adventure of Trek alive. Along with the more deadly serious business.
Also I guess I've added more omakes to my list (If only I wasn't working so much. Oh well. Phone typing it is):
1) Ka'Sharren says goodbye to Enterprise and changes the guard with Mrr'Shan. [IN PROGRESS]
2) The Romulan relationship with the Kadeshi. Not a full clients hip but the Romulans have an odd sense of fondness for them out of a feeling of... let's call it mythic nostalgia. Weather they help in the form of "We'll keep you in our thoughts and prayers", "Here have a D-7 or three. We were just going to scrap it anyway. You can use it for storage or whatever" or something in between is to be determined by higher powers.
3) Someone suggesting this idea to Starfleet Command. I'm probably going to use Kuznetsova for that. Though I may try to use someone else.
aledeth
The Flesh is Weak
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- He/Him
Why not Commodore T'Faer? They were the one in charge of the crisis fleet, right?
Derek58
Rocket Punch is Best Punch
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- Getter Valhalla
We're still doing that even if it doesn't happen with the 5YMs.
aeqnai
Nerdy Homu
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- Laniakea Supercluster
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- She/Her
'Cus she's a Rear Admiral now and in charge of Logistics.
Night
Widow Null
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- Hoff
She'd get stuck in a transporter pattern buffer, leaving it to the rookie to solve/screw up until the last minute, when Nash saves the day!
I mis-remembered. Well, it was in the Snakepit results post anyway. The point is that it's not a mistake or anything; the CBZ starbase really is supposed to take 2 turns more to build
Miranda refits. Remember those? We ordered it, we got it, and the best time to slot them in is putting them in right after a Connie-B comes out. They fill the berths nicely until we can start making Reniassances in those berths, while at the same time letting us save our resources for Renaissances and to start the Ambassador prototype.
So agreed, we have no reason to ask for a Constellation refit this year... because we're going to have our hands full refitting Mirandas.
Constellations are too ugly ever to have Presence 3.
I wouldn't mind exploring in the general direction they're going; "accompany" is a bridge too far. Though I guess it's a Viraan zh'Dohlen decision.
EDIT: And to be clear, we do not have enough spare ships to put together an entire squadron just to follow the Kadeshi around. Not that it seems like anything but a terrible idea if we did have the ships.
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- Mid-Atlantic
It's probably a good thing we don't need (or have spare capacity) to handle Constellation-A refits right now, because we're going to be a bit hard up for political will this turn.
We're going to have 191 I think. 195 and then we took an anti-Syndicate option that saps 5 additional political will. We paid off the Cost of last year's activities in this year's income, and we'll pay off this year's Cost in next year's income, so nothing changes there. And then of the 191 we owe 50 to the Development faction to spend as they wish.