Finagle007
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Yeah, Nash is definitely living up to Kirk's rep. Starfleet needs more captains like her.
To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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The only part that needs changes so far is scouting area 3 rather than 2. Just need to see the new options now.
AKuz
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I see and approve. > : 3
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I got no room for an Omake there. Well not one that's appropriate outside of Sufficenty Sexy > : 3
*Cough*
BUT ANYWAY THO,
1) How do people feel about a possible Romulan Admiral on Enterprise's bridge?
2) Are we ready to volunteer help to an evacuation if they go through with it?
- @AKuz
I got no room for an Omake there. Well not one that's appropriate outside of Sufficenty Sexy > : 3
*Cough*
BUT ANYWAY THO,
1) How do people feel about a possible Romulan Admiral on Enterprise's bridge?
2) Are we ready to volunteer help to an evacuation if they go through with it?
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I'm fine with hosting their admiral.
I don't think they need to borrow a civil team for the evacuation itself, they clearly have at least one available already, and we need ours to evacuate everything but Indi Beta and Solitude so it wouldn't make sense to lend them one anyway. If for some reason they can't evacuate without help they should probably just fortify. We could lend them an Oberth to park there rather than giving them Starfleet sensors, should work just as well and would give us intel rather than giving away strategically valuable technology.
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We are High Command.
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Heads up, by the way, I've added the Federation Colony Ship profile to the front page. Edit: And Generic Cargo Ships
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I really don't feel comfortable with a Romulan Admiral on the Enterprise's bridge for the following reason.
Historically if a Task Force Commander isn't also running the double duty of commanding their own vessel, they'll often use the secondary bridge to serve as a Flag Bridge. This allows the Task Force Commander the following benefits:
a. the task force commander is able to bring their staff into the bridge without crowding the area
b. it alleviates confusion when the both the Task Force Commander and Captain are issuing orders simultaneously
c. it allows the Task Force Commander to focus on the bigger picture without being disturbed
While I'm willing to bet that an Excelsior has the facilities to serve as a Flagship, I don't think that we want the Romulan Admiral and his staff to have access to a Bridge let along poking around our most advanced vessel. We may be working with the Romulans but I wouldn't be that comfortable. Plus the presence of Starfleet Security watching the Admiral and his Staff's every move is bound to make things awkward and tense in the worst of situations.
If we let them command from our Bridge, I feel that having two people commanding from the same area is bound to be a clusterf*ck waiting to happen. Plus it would make the bridge extremely crowded. I feel that it would be best if the Romulan Admiral were to command from their own Warbird.
Historically if a Task Force Commander isn't also running the double duty of commanding their own vessel, they'll often use the secondary bridge to serve as a Flag Bridge. This allows the Task Force Commander the following benefits:
a. the task force commander is able to bring their staff into the bridge without crowding the area
b. it alleviates confusion when the both the Task Force Commander and Captain are issuing orders simultaneously
c. it allows the Task Force Commander to focus on the bigger picture without being disturbed
While I'm willing to bet that an Excelsior has the facilities to serve as a Flagship, I don't think that we want the Romulan Admiral and his staff to have access to a Bridge let along poking around our most advanced vessel. We may be working with the Romulans but I wouldn't be that comfortable. Plus the presence of Starfleet Security watching the Admiral and his Staff's every move is bound to make things awkward and tense in the worst of situations.
If we let them command from our Bridge, I feel that having two people commanding from the same area is bound to be a clusterf*ck waiting to happen. Plus it would make the bridge extremely crowded. I feel that it would be best if the Romulan Admiral were to command from their own Warbird.
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I'm in favor of creating a PD shuttle or light cruiser.
Wasn't there a modular ship design somewhere?
Wasn't there a modular ship design somewhere?
AKuz
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Starfleet cancelled it:
Article: "So, scale back. Except the whole concept's tainted now. A directive's gone out - no more mission pods. Stick to the tried-and-true. Miranda-style rollbars. Meaning most of the modularity's gone - instead of a full-on pod being swapped out, you're only swapping out a small superstructure, so the dedicated science ship needs a lot more space in the actual saucer changed, so there's different power coupling arrangements needed, it's harder to make modules plug-and-play, there's less room for the shuttlebay - which means we had to step back on probe integration, there's no real point to blue-and-gold crews, we had to cut back on impulse dash speed..." Anne trails off, seeing her friend's eyes glazing over.
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I'd be wary of overspecializing a ship like that.
Once this is all over these ships have to back to Space-ing the Final Frontier, remember.
AKuz
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I was just talking to the Office of Naval Architecture (@anon_user) actually, and it turns out that you can't do shuttles in the designer.
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This thing has better sensors than all but 6 ships in the fleet...
If we decide to evacuate Solitude we should definitely get one, if not like I'm advocating we could go either way. It would be helpful, but in 2 turns we're going to be done with everything but Solitude and the science outposts anyway, and in 4 turns we'd have evacuated everything but Solitude and upgraded the shields at both Beta Indi and Solitude.
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Science is pretty critical if you're trying to settle a new colony. Me, I'm impressed by those Shields. Maybe we made a mistake not requisitioning these things for the evacuation sooner.
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Yeah, but we were already expecting strong shields. I figured they would be used to colonize already explored planets.
I don't know what the Office of @anon_user Naval Development says, but I don't think strapping PD phasers onto cruisers is exactly the solution. Presumably with the way Trek phasers work the more important thing is having an excess of power to quickly cycle phasers.
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Shit dawg, I should get out ahead of that.
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Okay, I've noticed some people are having difficult with the learning curve on the crisis turns. So what I was considering making was a voting template. Handy dandy block with the teams listed and a "Pick an action from <name> section for me!" block next to them.
As in...
Template
Starfleet Engineering Command: Currently building an outpost at Machado IV
Starfleet Medical Command: Pick a Civil or Industry action for me! I can also do Civil (Medical) tasks!
Andorian Civil Engineers: Pick a Civil Engineering action for me!
...
And so on. I figure having an easy to copy, pre-defined layout with instructions might make things less daunting.
I've been considering pre-built plans as well, but I figured that might do more harm than good by restricting people who want to make plans.
As in...
Template
Starfleet Engineering Command: Currently building an outpost at Machado IV
Starfleet Medical Command: Pick a Civil or Industry action for me! I can also do Civil (Medical) tasks!
Andorian Civil Engineers: Pick a Civil Engineering action for me!
...
And so on. I figure having an easy to copy, pre-defined layout with instructions might make things less daunting.
I've been considering pre-built plans as well, but I figured that might do more harm than good by restricting people who want to make plans.
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I don't see that helping, just listing the type and sub-type is less ambiguous than a sentence and the latter doesn't convey any more information either. For example the sentences here would raise the question what the difference between a "Civil action" and a "Civil Engineering action" is even though there is none (unless you are changing that now?)
Why would Starfleet Medical Command be able to do Industry actions now anyway?
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the layout would probably help, but the way it is seems perfectly fine to me. I just have other time constraints that prevent me from participating that much.
pre-built plans seem incorrect with the theme of the quest.
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That's just thrown together as an example layout, don't take them as specific details right now.
Basically, a frame that can be copied that has all the teams and what they are allowed to pick from.
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It's pretty reflective of the actual problem, though. You often use different words to mean the same thing, or the same word to mean different things and just expect that to be clear from context. The problem with "Civil" vs "Civil Engineering" is very much present in the actual posts with the teams being labled with Civil, but the actions Civil Engineering. And you use type, sub-type specialization. If you don't know what these mean you'd think that either they are three different things or sub-type is the same thing as specialization, but in fact type is the same thing as specialization. Or maybe specialization is type when there is no sub-type required, otherwise type+sub-type. See, even I'm still a bit confused about that.
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Good point. I'll try to rewrite some descriptions to clarify this and fix up some of the inconsistent terminology.
Ulith III Biophage Crisis - 2303.Q4.M3
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Federation News Service, Breaking News, 2303.Q4.M3
Disaster has struck in the Romulan Border Zone as the omnivorous deep space organism termed the Ulith III Biophage strikes Federation colonies. Attacks were made in no fewer than five locations, including Solitude, Liath V, Arcori III, Indi Beta, and Kiterunner. Over ten thousand are feared dead across these attacks, including two thousand who were lost when their evacuation ship was rammed in Arcori III orbit.
The political aftermath of Arcori III also continues, with some colonists in the RBZ openly questioning Starfleet's ability to ensure their safety. The removal of Captain O'Hara from the USS Excelsior has also rankled many human notaries. These factions received aid from an unexpected quarter today, with Councillor Stesk openly breaking ranks from his Vulcan colleagues to praise the actions of O'Hara, saying that the finest traditions of Starfleet are those that preserve life, and that the Captain's actions are logical in that light. Meanwhile, the Andorians have formed up behind the Vulcan majority in calling for Captain O'Hara to be sanctioned, whereas the Tellarites are split. The Federation Council President struck a cautious note, saying that it would never be becoming for Starfleet officers to be quick to take life, and that the full consequences of the Captain's actions would not be known until after the crisis concludes, so it should be placed on hold until then. Subsequent to that, Starfleet Personnel Command announced that Commander Yamada would remain in command of the USS Excelsior for the duration, while Captain O'Hara returns to Earth on gardening leave.
Despite the fierce debate on this topic, however, the Council remains united in the face of the Biophage, unanimously increasing their contribution to emergency relief efforts.
Crucial research into the Biophage continues, and Starfleet Medical states that they are confident breakthroughs are coming soon.
End Report
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State of Emergency, 2303.Q4.M3 (Turn 3 of State of Emergency)
Current Level of Federation Mobilisation: Increased [Up to 16 teams allowed]
You are currently operating in a State of Emergency.
This entails an increased operational tempo (you shift to three month-long mini-turns per Quarter), and an increase to available assets.
These assets usually will require no additional resources from Starfleet, as you are directing the resources of a Federation that does not embrace money. Any additional requirements will be noted on the actions themselves.
This State of Emergency will endure until such time as the cause of the crisis is resolved. In this case, until the Ulith III Biophage no longer poses a threat to the Federation.
Mark of the Beast - Crisis Status Page
Research Mega Post
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Crisis Projects
Fleet Tasks
Crisis Teams
Teams in BOLD are occupied with an ongoing task.
Starfleet & Allied Fleet Groups
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Use teams to accomplish tasks that match their type. In other words, if you want to accomplish a Civil Engineering action, assign a team with the Civil Engineering Team type. If you want to accomplish an External Diplomacy action, assign a team with the External Diplomacy Team type. Some actions are special, and require a particular sub-type. Teams that have a sub-type can still accomplish all normal actions of that type, but can also accomplish special actions. For example, if you want to do an Industry action like building armoured freighters, which requires the Heavy sub-type, you need to use a team that is marked Industry (Heavy) Team, such as the Earth Industrial Concerns team.
Research can be accomplished by any team, but will progress faster if they have the same specialty. The exception is Biophage research, will will cause any team that isn't the Infectious Diseases Lab or the Vulcan Science Academy to be eaten, so don't do it
A multi-turn task will continue until complete. Some tasks will involve dice rolls behind the scenes, some tasks will be automatic-successes.
At present you have a small portion of the full assets of the United Federation of Planets, mainly your quick response Starfleet assets, and nearby Andorian ready assets. You may recruit more teams via Internal Diplomacy, which is effectively requisitioning units. The Federation Emergency Council has arbitrary authority, and any mobilisation it makes will be automatically successful.
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To vote, simply start looking for the actions that you want to take in this turn, then look to see what teams you have that match those actions. Then list down the teams and the actions that you are assigning them. If you don't want to give a team an action and just have them cool their heels for a while, that's fine.
For example...
[ex] Plan Name
Starfleet Engineering Command - Evacuate Arcori III
Runabout Recon Team - Scout Neutral Zone Area 1
Starfleet Command - Mobilise an Asset
And so on!
Disaster has struck in the Romulan Border Zone as the omnivorous deep space organism termed the Ulith III Biophage strikes Federation colonies. Attacks were made in no fewer than five locations, including Solitude, Liath V, Arcori III, Indi Beta, and Kiterunner. Over ten thousand are feared dead across these attacks, including two thousand who were lost when their evacuation ship was rammed in Arcori III orbit.
The political aftermath of Arcori III also continues, with some colonists in the RBZ openly questioning Starfleet's ability to ensure their safety. The removal of Captain O'Hara from the USS Excelsior has also rankled many human notaries. These factions received aid from an unexpected quarter today, with Councillor Stesk openly breaking ranks from his Vulcan colleagues to praise the actions of O'Hara, saying that the finest traditions of Starfleet are those that preserve life, and that the Captain's actions are logical in that light. Meanwhile, the Andorians have formed up behind the Vulcan majority in calling for Captain O'Hara to be sanctioned, whereas the Tellarites are split. The Federation Council President struck a cautious note, saying that it would never be becoming for Starfleet officers to be quick to take life, and that the full consequences of the Captain's actions would not be known until after the crisis concludes, so it should be placed on hold until then. Subsequent to that, Starfleet Personnel Command announced that Commander Yamada would remain in command of the USS Excelsior for the duration, while Captain O'Hara returns to Earth on gardening leave.
Despite the fierce debate on this topic, however, the Council remains united in the face of the Biophage, unanimously increasing their contribution to emergency relief efforts.
Crucial research into the Biophage continues, and Starfleet Medical states that they are confident breakthroughs are coming soon.
End Report
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State of Emergency, 2303.Q4.M3 (Turn 3 of State of Emergency)
Current Level of Federation Mobilisation: Increased [Up to 16 teams allowed]
You are currently operating in a State of Emergency.
This entails an increased operational tempo (you shift to three month-long mini-turns per Quarter), and an increase to available assets.
These assets usually will require no additional resources from Starfleet, as you are directing the resources of a Federation that does not embrace money. Any additional requirements will be noted on the actions themselves.
This State of Emergency will endure until such time as the cause of the crisis is resolved. In this case, until the Ulith III Biophage no longer poses a threat to the Federation.
Mark of the Beast - Crisis Status Page
Research Mega Post
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Crisis Projects
- Internal Diplomacy
- Research
- External Diplomacy
- Civil Engineering Projects
- Industry Projects
- Combat
Fleet Tasks
- RBZ Fleet
- USS Enterprise and the Romulan Admiral
Crisis Teams
| Starfleet Command | Internal Diplomacy Team/Research (Doctrine) Team |
| Federation Emergency Council |
Internal Diplomacy Team |
| Andorian Ambassadorial Team | External Diplomacy Team |
| Starfleet Engineering Command | Industry Team/Civil Engineering Team |
| Andorian Civil Engineering Team | Civil Engineering Team |
| Starfleet Medical Command | Civil Engineering (Medical) Team |
| Starfleet Infectious Disease Institute [Able to Perform Biophage Research] | Research Team/Civil Engineering (Medical) Team |
| Starfleet Tactical Command - Tiger Team | Research (Doctrine) Team |
| Starfleet Tactical Command - Runabout Recon Squadron | Combat (Recon) Team |
| Commodore T'Faer | Research (Doctrine) Team |
| Tellarite Mining Expedition 1 | Civil Engineering Team / Combat (Demolitions) Team |
| Vulcan Science Academy Detachment | Research (Any) Team |
Starfleet & Allied Fleet Groups
| RBZ Fleet - Commodore T'Faer | Available (RBZ) | 4 Excelsior, 1 Constellation, 2 Centaur, 2 Miranda, Betazed Empaths |
| Quarantine Fleet | Under Romulan Command (FBZ) | 1 Excelsior, 1 Heavy Warbird, 4 Bird of Prey, 2 D7 Cruiser |
Use teams to accomplish tasks that match their type. In other words, if you want to accomplish a Civil Engineering action, assign a team with the Civil Engineering Team type. If you want to accomplish an External Diplomacy action, assign a team with the External Diplomacy Team type. Some actions are special, and require a particular sub-type. Teams that have a sub-type can still accomplish all normal actions of that type, but can also accomplish special actions. For example, if you want to do an Industry action like building armoured freighters, which requires the Heavy sub-type, you need to use a team that is marked Industry (Heavy) Team, such as the Earth Industrial Concerns team.
Research can be accomplished by any team, but will progress faster if they have the same specialty. The exception is Biophage research, will will cause any team that isn't the Infectious Diseases Lab or the Vulcan Science Academy to be eaten, so don't do it
A multi-turn task will continue until complete. Some tasks will involve dice rolls behind the scenes, some tasks will be automatic-successes.
At present you have a small portion of the full assets of the United Federation of Planets, mainly your quick response Starfleet assets, and nearby Andorian ready assets. You may recruit more teams via Internal Diplomacy, which is effectively requisitioning units. The Federation Emergency Council has arbitrary authority, and any mobilisation it makes will be automatically successful.
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To vote, simply start looking for the actions that you want to take in this turn, then look to see what teams you have that match those actions. Then list down the teams and the actions that you are assigning them. If you don't want to give a team an action and just have them cool their heels for a while, that's fine.
For example...
[ex] Plan Name
Starfleet Engineering Command - Evacuate Arcori III
Runabout Recon Team - Scout Neutral Zone Area 1
Starfleet Command - Mobilise an Asset
And so on!
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No new options that I can see except for the phaser kits that would finish too late to matter, so voting as discussed.
[X] Plan Fortify Solitude
[X] [Starfleet Command] Mobilise an Asset (1 turn)
[X] [Federation Emergency Council] Mobilise an Asset (1 turn)
[X] [Andorian Civil Engineering Team] Fortify Solitude Outpost (+2 C, +2 S) (2 turns)
[X] [Starfleet Medical Command] Evacuate Liath V (55k) to Andor Sector (1 turn)
[X] [Tellarite Mining Expedition] Scuttle Arcori III shipyards (1 turn)
[X] [Starfleet Infectious Disease Institute] Biophage Vaccine Research Rush - (1 turn)
[X] [Vulcan Science Academy Detachment] Ulith III Biophage General Research Rush (1 turn)
[X] [Starfleet Tactical Command - Tiger Team] Biophage Combat Research Rush (1 turn)
[X] [Commodore T'Faer] Suicide Shuttle Countermeasures (1 turn)
[X] [Starfleet Tactical Command - Runabout Recon Squadron] Scout Neutral Zone Area 3 (2 turn)
[X] [RBZ Fleet - Commodore T'Faer] Own Initiative
Assets: Probably an internal and an external diplomacy team unless there is some overwhelmingly good new option.
Fortify the largest colony with shipyards (evacuation is impractical and it's a strategically important base), scuttle the shipyards at the colony we just evacuated and evacuate the last remaining shipyard colony. All three locations have already been targets last turn.
Research changes as previously discussed.
Continue scouting rimwards, the Romulans are already covering Area 2.
T'Faer has been doing a fine job so far, no need to micromanage.
[X] [Admiral] accept
[X] Plan Fortify Solitude
[X] [Starfleet Command] Mobilise an Asset (1 turn)
[X] [Federation Emergency Council] Mobilise an Asset (1 turn)
[X] [Andorian Civil Engineering Team] Fortify Solitude Outpost (+2 C, +2 S) (2 turns)
[X] [Starfleet Medical Command] Evacuate Liath V (55k) to Andor Sector (1 turn)
[X] [Tellarite Mining Expedition] Scuttle Arcori III shipyards (1 turn)
[X] [Starfleet Infectious Disease Institute] Biophage Vaccine Research Rush - (1 turn)
[X] [Vulcan Science Academy Detachment] Ulith III Biophage General Research Rush (1 turn)
[X] [Starfleet Tactical Command - Tiger Team] Biophage Combat Research Rush (1 turn)
[X] [Commodore T'Faer] Suicide Shuttle Countermeasures (1 turn)
[X] [Starfleet Tactical Command - Runabout Recon Squadron] Scout Neutral Zone Area 3 (2 turn)
[X] [RBZ Fleet - Commodore T'Faer] Own Initiative
Assets: Probably an internal and an external diplomacy team unless there is some overwhelmingly good new option.
Fortify the largest colony with shipyards (evacuation is impractical and it's a strategically important base), scuttle the shipyards at the colony we just evacuated and evacuate the last remaining shipyard colony. All three locations have already been targets last turn.
Research changes as previously discussed.
Continue scouting rimwards, the Romulans are already covering Area 2.
T'Faer has been doing a fine job so far, no need to micromanage.
[X] [Admiral] accept
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