[X][FYM] Select Captains
-[X] USS Enterprise: Captain Samhaya Mrr'shan
-[X] USS Sarek: Captain Straak
-[X] USS Miracht: Captain Langa Mbeki

We're already loosing out on 50pp due to bargaining with the Development faction. Another 40 will probably have to go on diplo pushes to exploit the Cardiess' silence. We've been wanting the Councelors for years now. Let's not push it up again.

And really, we might just end up putting her in charge of the Stargazer if we don't find a good spot for her or she refuses promotion. Her bonus would really help a green crew.
 
[X][FYM] Select Captains
-[X] USS Enterprise: Captain Samhaya Mrr'shan
-[X] USS Sarek: Captain Langa Mbeki
-[X] USS Miracht: Captain T'Rinta
 
[X][FYM] Select Captains
-[X] USS Enterprise: Captain Samhaya Mrr'shan
-[X] USS Sarek: Captain Straak
-[X] USS Miracht: Captain Langa Mbeki

We're already loosing out on 50pp due to bargaining with the Development faction. Another 40 will probably have to go on diplo pushes to exploit the Cardiess' silence. We've been wanting the Councelors for years now. Let's not push it up again.

And really, we might just end up putting her in charge of the Stargazer if we don't find a good spot for her or she refuses promotion. Her bonus would really help a green crew.
I'm actually okay with plan Stargazer Consolation.

Alternatively, we can have Nash lead the Syndicate force. Her command bonus will probably be flagship crew skill bump, and the same Nash leeway.
 
I don't suppose we can pull a Kirk ala Star Trek The Motion Picture with a Commodore/Admiral ka'Sharren, can we?

edit: A possibly better example would be the aftermath of Star Trek IV.
I would be not one bit surprised- but it was many years from the time Kirk made admiral to the time that happened.
 
[X][FYM] Select Captains
-[X] USS Enterprise: Captain Samhaya Mrr'shan
-[X] USS Sarek: Captain Straak
-[X] USS Miracht: Captain Langa Mbeki
 
I'm actually okay with plan Stargazer Consolation.

Alternatively, we can have Nash lead the Syndicate force. Her command bonus will probably be flagship crew skill bump, and the same Nash leeway.
Syndicate operations would actually be a great spot for her.

She does what is right, regardless of the rules. This is exactly what we need against an enemy like the Syndies, who have so thoroughly infiltrated the Union and will stall and block us using every single law and document that needs to be filled out in triple.

Also, I'd really like to see that weapons girl make EC. She was an omake reward, wasn't she? Plus, from what I remember, was reeeeeally enthusiastic and motivated about joining, not what you'd expect from a Vulcan.
 
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Notmake - AKuz Character Bible
On a less contentious note, I've gotten the idea in my head of creating a list of all major characters from Omakes, with descriptions of personality and a minor "how to write" section... along with weather the creator feels comfortable letting other people write them.

Even if no one else joins in, I'm going to put my writer's character bible up. ( @Iron Wolf and @anon_user will be adding to it over the next couple days too) I also hope it will also help @OneirosTheWriter if he wants to use any of the more obscure characters himself in a canon update.

Character List:

Primarily Written by @AKuz

Name: Nash Ka'Sharren
Rank: Captain/Commodore
Gender: Zhen
Birth Year: 2269
Birthplace: Andoria
Position: CO, USS Enterprise
Former Assignments: (Unknown, took leave on Alukk as an Ensign) Captain of the Miranda Class USS Lion
Shipping: Variety of Female lovers of various species, Was married to Leaniss Larai briefly and there is still something there that may flare up again once they are out of the same chain of command
Personality and Voice:
"A cowboy, wild, unpredictable, and successful, she makes the council pull their hair out, but gets things done"
-OneirosTheWriter
Nash is very outgoing, flippant, and generally unflappable. Her flippancy and humour is in large part an expression of a sense of Empathy; she enjoys putting people at ease with humour, but also knows how to use is to tweak the noses of people that annoy her without "going too far". She also seems to able to make friends easily and quickly, and genuinely enjoys meeting new people as much or more than seeing new places.

Nash also has a high degree of empathy, which is easy to overlook, but which is core to her success. She is capable of working with her officers to draw out what their best qualities are, and is also capable of quickly reading others (Her success in love, as well as diplomacy, comes from this) and figuring out what they want as well.

Nash's confidence come from a very sure sense of who she is and what she does. Nash Ka'Sharren knows who Nash Ka'Sharren is, (and who and what Nash Ka'Sharren wants).

Nash also is disinclined to settle down, both relationship wise and physically. There is a weight of responsibility to settling down with a single woman or a single place that she doesn't feel ready for.

Availability for Omakes: Sure, I mean if you think you can handle her. > : V
A/N: The image of a Kirk for the new century (IC and OOC) taking command of the Enterprise hooked me and I had to write it. And that's how the Omakes started
Name: Samhaya Mrr'Shan
Rank: Captain
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 2273
Birthplace: Ferasia (Immigrated to Alpha Centuari as a child)
Current Position: CO, Centaur Class -USS Lightning
Former assignments: Tactical Officer USS Lion, USS Enterprise. XO, USS Enterprise
Shipping: Unattached, Prefers Men
Personality and Voice:
"The first ever Caitian to be appointed to the Explorer Corps Panel of Captains, and one of the few Captains from outside the Original Four"
-OneirosTheWriter​

Samhaya is the consummate professional. By the book, attentive to detail, and loyal. She has a sense of Feline dignity that helps her maintain calm in even the most difficult circumstances.

Sam also has a buried silly streak and sense of appreciation for the absurd that rarely comes out, as she feels that in most circumstances she has to be the straight faced adult adult .This is a part of what makes her good friends with Nash Ka'Sharren as she enjoys playing "the straight woman" against the more outgoing Andorian woman.
Availability for Omakes: Sure
A/N: I essentially decided to write Nash a straight woman and the image of an officer with feline pride led me to a Caitain officer.
Name: Diego Zaardmani
Rank: Captain
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 2274
Birthplace: Earth
Current Position: Deputy Director, Starfleet School of Astrosciences, Starfleet Academy
Former assignments: Science officer, USS Enterprise
Relationships: Fiance to Doctor Pritya Asurva
Personality and Voice:
Mr. Zaardmani is the Best sensor operator in Starfleet. And he knows it. In fact he seems to have a very large ego and is very self confident.

He is actually deeply thoughtful and concerned with others. He just doesn't like showing it because he deeply feels the weight of responsibility upon him as a Starfleet officer and he would rather not have others worry over his own insecurities and doubts.

He has become less of, well, a jerk externally and insecure internally due to his time on Enterprise under Ka'Sharren's influence and his relationship with Pritya Asruva; a woman he loves deeply even if they are currently apart.

Availability for Omakes: Sure
A/N: N/A
Availability for Omakes: Sure
A/N: N/A
Captain Maryam Ajam
Name: Maryam Ajam
Rank: Captain
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 2267
Birthplace: Luna
Current Position: Sabbatical
Former assignments: Ensign/Lt-USS Excelsior, Lt-Cmdr-Starfleet Tactical, XO- USS Enterprise, CO- USS Courageous
Shipping: Married to the Amarki Knight Relin (Whenever I get off my ass and write the Omake anyway) with whom she has a child.
Personality and Voice:
Maryam Ajam loves to see new things and be in new places. She's fine with places that are new to her, but seeing something somewhere where no one has gone before is what she lives for.

This wanderlust does not extend to personal relationships however. She maintained her friendships with Enterprise officers even after taking command of Courageous and was in a long term long distance relationship with an Amarki Knight-Captain. She likes to have a firm relationships that can support her in her adventures.

Maryam is a big woman, and very physically active, especially outdoors (She bonded with Relin over mountain hiking for instance)

Availability for Omakes: Sure!
A/N: Fun Fact: When I first wrote her, my proofreaders asked if I was going to ship her with Nash. I was not, but I guess the Yuri is strong with me and comes through accidentally sometimes.
Rank: Captain
Gender: Pritya Asurva
Birth Year: 2272
Birthplace: Alukk
Current Position: Cultural liaison, Anti-Syndicate operations
Former assignments: CMO- USS Enterprise
Relationships: Fiance to Diego Zaardmani
Personality and Voice:
Doctor Asurva is a deeply empathetic and caring person and also a deeply committed pacifist. She understands that violence happens and that sometimes Starfleet must fight, but on a personal level she is deeply opposed to acts of violence and are unhappy when it happens around her.

She is deeply committed to understanding and caring for others, and cannot rest if she sees someone in pain, which makes her a doctor with an excellent work ethic and bedside manner.

Availability for Omakes: Sure
A/N: I wanted a non stereotype Orion woman on the crew.
Name: Alexandria Kuznetsova
Rank: Commander
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 2275
Birthplace: Earth
Current Position: Director, Starfleet Tactical Tiger Team
Former assignments: Analyst, Starfleet Intelligence. Analyst, Starfleet Tactical Tiger Team
Shipping: Nothing official, but everyone assumes she and Camille Alexander are an item.
Personality and Voice:
Much like the woman, Alexandria's name is slightly unusual, a mild deviation from normal. She is slightly… eccentric, with a highly agile mind, and it is an endless sense of amusement to me that she's actually rising up through the ranks.

Kuznetsova enjoys finding all little datapoints in a huge stack and putting them together to create a bigger picture that others fail to see. She's like a conspiracy theorist who is capable of stepping back from the individual trees to check that they actually make up a forest. This is also part of how she simply has a different perspective on things that a lot of the time that is occasionally off-putting for those not used to her.

Alexandria has a bottomless well of energy, that she uses to pursue dozens of different ideas and thoughts at once, but which also makes her an extremely hard worker; as once she puts her mind to a task, she simply will not stop until it is finished. Kuznetsova has a sort of confidence that comes from simply not caring what most people think about her.

Also: she is mildly concerned about how many of her far out theories are coming true

Availability for Omakes: Sure.

A/N:
The food thing is me having fun with the too simple metaphors and analogues used in Trek all the time.
Name: Jennifer Zhang
Rank: Commander
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 2278
Birthplace: Luna
Current Position: Assistant Deputy Director, Battle Review Division, Starfleet Tactical Command
Former assignments: Tactical Officer USS Excelsior, Tactical Officer USS Enterprise
Shipping: Prefers women. Looking for Abigail Taggart
Personality and Voice:
Jennifer is a talented planner, who meticulously plans out every aspect of a plan and is unwilling to ignore any detail. She is not quite as creative or brilliant as some of her peers (Something which has given her a small but manageable inferiority complex that makes her overeager to please) but her careful and diligent work and actual flair for strategy and tactics have seen her successfully survive a five year mission.

On a personal level, she tries to be very professional in all interactions, respects and trusts authority, and admires the quiet dignity of someone like Samhaya Mrr'Shan, making sure that her uniform, reports, and quarters are kept in perfect regulation conditions. She tries to keep her language precise and correct to avoid misunderstandings; though the intensity which she pursues this often accidentally comes across as arrogance and condescension. Jennifer has a bad habit of assuming that others are on the same mental wavelength that she is.

Serving on Enterprise with Nash Ka'Sharren has unlocked new depths of confidence and capability that has her actively pursuing her own chance to command a vessel.

Her hobbies include swimming, strategy and tactical games, and cooking.

Availability for Omakes: Sure!
A/N: 50% created to have an officer with a "Hot for Teacher" crush on Nash. She also has a great deal more characterization in Omakes that I was not able to finish. I've actually got like over ten thousand words of unfinished Omake from the last 5YM sitting around
Name: Stol
Rank: Commander
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 2255
Birthplace:Vulcan
Current Position: Helmsman-USS Enterprise
Former assignments: (Unknown)
Relationships: (Unknown)
Personality and Voice:
Stol is older than most of his shipmates though he is slightly junior in rank due to joining Starfleet later in life.

His main talent is an ability to do complex mathematics and spacial relationship calculations in his head rapidly as well as an astounding level of spacial awareness. In a Vulcan this is matched with calm deliberation and logical thought.

He moves smoothly and gracefully, like a martial artist or dancer, in much the same way as he moves Enterprise herself.

He is a very centered person and has a, well, zen attitude towards life, and has determined that his greatest level of contribution the to Federation and Starfleet is at the helm of a Starship. When he is promoted off a bridge he fully intends to teach other starfleet officers how to pilot a vessel with his skill level.

In his spare time, Stol helps Commander Bazeck work on high performance alterations to one of Enterprise's shuttles

Availability for Omakes: Yes
A/N: If this were, like, Star Wars he'd be a hell of a pilot, easily up there with Wedge and Fel.
Name: Dav Bazeck
Rank: Commander
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 2265
Birthplace: Ord Grind Duk
Current Position: CENG- USS Enterprise
Former assignments: (Unknown)
Relationships: (Unknown. Not his ship tho.)
Personality and Voice:
Bazeck relishes a good engineering Challenge even more than he loves a good argument. And there is nothing more challenging than keeping a Explorer Corps vessel in one piece while eking out every last percentage of efficiency.

Half the reason that he has not been promoted off Enterprise is simply the level of sophistication of tweaks made by him and his crew. While the upgrades are well documented, it simply takes an extraordinary level of skill and precision to perform maintenance on them for an extended period, which is why they have not been rolled out across the fleet.

Bazeck spends his spare time working on one of Enterprise's the shuttles, attempting to create major performance improvements. A project that he and Commander Stol are co-operating on.

Availability for Omakes: Sure
A/N: He was supposed to be part of a "Sir not appearing in this Fic" gag, but as I kept writing more and more Omakes I realised that it wasn't going to work, but I ended up without a clear sense of what to do with the character.
Name: Leaniss Larai
Rank: Commander
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 2271
Birthplace: Amarkia
Current Position: XO- USS Enterprise
Former assignments: Senator-Amarkia, Diplomatic officer-USS Enterprise
Shippings: Was once married to Nash Ka'Sharren. Still carries a torch
Personality and Voice:
Leaniss is a careful and smooth operator; a politician born and raised… who always wanted to see the stars, to explore corners of the galaxy that no Amarki ever had.

She is an excellent negotiator with a keen ability to figure out exactly what she can give that others want but with a backbone of steel that keeps her from being taken advantage of. The former senator does not like seeing people taken advantage off, and she enjoys smoothing out issues and helping people in trouble.

Before she became Enterprise's XO her uncertain place in the chain of command essentially made her Enterprise's unofficial counsellor. Leaniss never turned away any member of the crew who had an issue, and if they wanted she helped to resolve the issue, be it relationship, career, or technical.

Leaniss is confident and ambitious, planning to rise up the ranks of Starfleet despite her odd entry point into the service.

Availability for Omakes: Sure
A/N: Heh, still amused that "Random love interest of the week" ended up as a long term Character.
Name: Camille Alexander
Rank: Lieutenant Commander
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 2274
Birthplace: Earth
Current Position: Deputy Director, Starfleet Tactical Tiger Team
Former assignments: Analyst, Starfleet Tactical Tiger Team. Starfleet Tactical
Shippings: Undefined relationship with Alexandria Kuznetsova
Personality and Voice:
Cam is a very calm individual who joined Starfleet to help protect the Federation, he is very protective of those who cannot defend themselves and extremely loyal to those he serves with.

He is capable of being grounded whatever else is going on and is a very steady man who always keeps his eye on the big picture.
Availability for Omakes: Sure
A/N: Kuznetsova's Husbando. The Zhu-li to her Varrick
Name: Aurthur Acheson
Rank: Lieutenant
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 2280
Birthplace: Earth
Current Position: Security Chief-USS Enterprise
Former assignments: (Unknown)
Shipping:
(Unknown)
Personality and Voice:
Acheson is a boy scout. Sorry- "Earth Scout". He is loyal, intelligent, professional, and believes in the ideals of the Federation.

He also believes that he should always "Be prepared" and has an unusually high number of weapons, energy packs, tools, and other bits and bobs on his person at all times.

He enjoys reading philosophy and classic works of literature in his spare time, in the Academy he was known as the "Thinking man's fighter"

Availability for Omakes:
A/N:
I always thought that Star Trek constantly making someone head up the Tactical department and the Security contingent was a dumb idea. So Acheson was born after Oneiros made vague references to the "Security Chief" so that it wouldn't end up being same persona as the tactical officer. Acheson also got more characterization in those abandoned Omakes too.

Primarily Written by @Iron Wolf

Name: Abigail Taggart
Rank: Commander
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 2276
Birthplace: Atlanta, Georgia
Current Position: XO, USS Sappho
Former assignments: Tactical Officer, USS Courageous
Shippings: Lesbian, had a fling with a mysterious stranger ;)
Personality and Voice: Taggart speaks with the Southern accent you'd expect, very prim and southern belle. It is an attempt to emulate something of Eaton's bearing but adapted for New World sensibilities. Her voice has some of the Southern sweetness but with a dry edge to her humor, and a steely edge when she's particularly incensed or impatient.

In person she can be mildly standoffish, particularly with strangers, but is devoted to those she considers her crew and family. It's more that she tends to be introverted than any sort of overt hostility, however.

Taggart likes things quite in their place and ordered, running quietly and efficiently. This was only reinforced on Eaton's ship, but her transition to the Sappho exposed her to a more chaotic, less formal, and more boisterous type of ship.

Taggart likes horseback riding, sharpshooting, and drinking mint juleps on the veranda, heavens bless.
Availability for Omakes: Yes
A/N: Taggart is not afraid to used y'all'd've. This and y'all is the one concession to any sort of phonetic speech I'd make. She'd probably like Jacqueline Appel, for some reason.
Name: Aaron Wolfe
Rank: Lieutenant
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 2279
Birthplace: Canmore, Alberta
Current Position: Orion Intelligence Desk
Former assignments: USS Enterprise, Starfleet Tactical Analysis Division
Relationships: Prefers women. Perhaps even Caitian women. Who have been XO's of ships named Enterprise.
Personality and Voice:
Wolfe is typically friendly and chatty with people he likes and trusts, given to absurdist and occasionally crude humor, and enjoys a good debate/discussion. With strangers, he tries to be much more guarded and safe, although he's still prone to gaffes he becomes determined to dig himself out of. In general he will use humor as a way of getting on someone's good side. Subsequently, he tends not to like people who lack one or prefer more rigid formality and observation of social cues and etiquette. Mostly because he's really beating himself up over missing them.
Internally, he has a strong sense of fair-play and a deeply-held belief in the values of the Federation and the rights of sentient beings to self-determination. He also is a massive pile of salt for any number of grievances: people being promoted before him, people saying things he doesn't like, people insulting him (real or perceived), and anything else you can think of. Wolfe has joked before that if he could have gotten his Academy course materials to insult him, he'd never have forgotten them. In contrast to his external voice, Wolfe internally tends to be much more pessimistic, critical, and reserved, a side he only occasionally shows to others. He often feels lost in particularly crowded social situations and unfamiliar settings. This simultaneous push-and-pull between his social and withdrawn side means Wolfe quite often likes working in collaborative environments, but alone on projects. He tends not to be a particularly thorough planner if at all, preferring to experiment and learn as he goes. In love, Wolfe tends to let others makes the first move, being almost entirely blind to if others are attracted to him and thus afraid of making the first move and coming across as a weirdo.

Wolfe's interests include the outdoors, swimming,comparative politics (duh), and horror and thriller fiction. Unfortunately he doesn't regularly find time for the former two, partially because he prefers to do them alone.

Availability for Omakes: Ask!
A/N:
Is it technically a self-insert if someone else introduced your character? Also, Wolfe is smol, like Tellarite height.

Primarily Written by @Leila Hann

Name: Penelya Miran
Rank: none (former Gul of the Third Order, Cardassian Defense Force)
Gender: female
Birth Year: 2266
Birthplace: Lakarian City, Cardassia Prime
Current Position: none
Former assignments: Captain CDF Trager, Captain CDF Kadak-Tor, presumably others.
Relationships: unattached, attracted only to women. Was once engaged to a male soldier who she never touched, and who died before the wedding date. Currently recovering from a lifetime of heteronormative repression and from a very confused infatuation with Nash.
Personality and Voice:
Like most Cardassians, Penelya sleeves a civic-minded nature in opinionated bombast, and tends to make moral decisions based on abstract principles rather than empathy. Unlike most Cardassians, she is strongly independent and has an impulsive streak. She carries a host of resentments from her unrewarding career in Cardassian society, and has learned to use spite and cynicism to protect herself from being hurt. Beneath these many layers of thorns and armor is a deep-seated desire for approval; her successes are never enough, and her failures always come with profuse and heartfelt apologies.

While a highly competent soldier, commander, and technician, Penelya's true passion was always exploration. New planets, new knowledge, and new societies fascinate her, and she is both conscious and resentful of the lens of superiority that her training has forced her to see such things through. As she gradually gets over the culture shock and uses her journeys to help herself settle in to Federation society, she's likely to mellow out.

Penelya enjoys long hiking, camping, and swimming expeditions, usually alone. She's also an amateur writer and poet, which Sulu will never, ever let Nash live down.

Availability for Omakes: Go for it!

A/N: basically a cross between Marko Ramius, Imperator Furiosa, and Jasper, but also scaly and lesbian.

Primarily Written by @Simon_Jester

Name: Eddie Leslie

Rank: To his considerable surprise, Commodore

Gender: Male

Birth Year: 2239

Birthplace: Texas

Current Position: Chief, Warp Core Fabrication Division, Shipyard Support Command

Former assignments: Ensign, USS Enterprise (no bloody A or B)

Relationships: Unrequited crush on Lt. Uhura, once upon a time. Got over it. Since married, for twenty wonderful years, and the other fifteen or so haven't been too bad either. Three children, two grandchildren, more seem likely.

Personality and Voice:

Rough, with a certain warmth, in both cases.

During his time on the famous "five-year mission" of 2265-70, Leslie formed friendships with many of the Enterprise junior officers, such as Sulu and Uhura (and lesser-known figures like Kyle, Rand, and so on). Leslie proved highly talented and versatile, serving in a variety of capacities as needed.

Leslie's experiences under Kirk were those of the quintessential 'redshirt.' He saw a sizeable fraction of the galaxy's wonders, often while they were trying to kill him. He walked in the shadow of living legends, seeing many of the feats that made them legendary... but also the moments when their feet of clay showed through.

This mix of the awe-inspiring and the mundane has contributed to his gruff but deep-feeling attitude toward life. In his old age, the combination has made the old warhorse extremely hard to impress, and prone to judge almost every experience against his time on the Enterprise. He'd probably greet God Himself with "Oh, hi there. You wouldn't happen to be a relative of Trelane's, would you?"

Leslie transitioned from Explorer Corps to "Chairfleet" due to progressive neurological damage he suffered when Commander Spock delivered a hasty nerve pinch while under the influence of Denevian mind control parasites. He still experiences muscle spasms and chronic pain, for reasons Federation medical science has been unable to fully explain.

Leslie has utterly terrible luck when under the influence. His greatest career-harming incident occurred during Enterprise's polywater outbreak. Rather than hijack the engine room or storm the bridge with a rapier, Leslie sat down to draft a poem, slightly dramatizing the experience of the Enterprise command team. Then Leslie sent it to his sister, a singer-songwriter of some repute, who refined it into an infamous ditty and drinking song that's been circling through Starfleet for the past forty years. While most of the polywater intoxication victims were later forgiven for their actions under the influence, Leslie received no such protection after it was determined who was responsible for this particular piece of doggerel.

Combined with his injury, this served to delay his promotion through the ranks. His experiences have given Leslie a keen and sympathetic eye for spotting and showing mercy upon those who act rashly due to intoxication or other, more exotic effects.

Availability for Omakes: Yes

A/N:

So, if anyone wants to add their own characters to this list, just PM with something written up in this format:
Name:
Rank:
Gender:
Birth Year:
Birthplace:
Current Position:
Former assignments:
Relationships:
Personality and Voice:
Availability for Omakes:
A/N:

(Even if you don't contribute, I've found it helpful to put this sort of thing to paper to help sort out how to write a particular character.)
 
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If we make 10 years the average rather than the exception that means we both halve the number of former EC captains and lower their average rank, because people end up spending much longer at captain, both waiting for a posting and then in that posting. That means it gets much harder to fill our senior postings with people with EC experience. I'd much rather give everyone skilled enough (that is with a decent bonus) a 5 year turn and then let them get on with their careers. Do you want most of our rear and vice admirals to have had an EC tour, or only a small minority? Voting for ka'Sharren and Straak is vote for the latter.
 
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If we make 10 years the average rather than the exception that means we both halve the number of former EC captains and lower their average rank, because people end up spending much longer at captain, both waiting for a posting and then in that posting. That means it gets much harder to fill our senior postings with people with EC experience. I'd much rather give everyone skilled enough a 5 year turn and then let them get on with their careers. Do you want most of our rear and vice admirals to have had an EC tour, or only a small minority? Voting for ka'Sharren and Straak is vote for the latter.
I'm okay with a minority. It takes a separate skill set to be an EC captain versus an administrator.
 
I'm okay with a minority. It takes a separate skill set to be an EC captain versus an administrator.
I'd argue the opposite, EC captains need skills more similar to those of a Admiral or Vice Admiral (leadership, high stake decision making, dealing with being responsible for the lives of others, delegating a wide range of different tasks, diplomacy) than berth superintendents, research team leaders or sector fleet captains do. They have a bit less need to deal with internal politics, but people seem to dislike anyone skilled at that.

Also the question isn't whether you are fine with a minority, it's whether you are fine with a small minority, possibly just the Vulcans. If people need to wait until 45 to get a shot and then spend 10 years in the seat they are 55 by the time they can advance to Commodore, 60-65 when they make Rear Admiral, and in their 70es before they can be considered for Vice Admiral. Only a few non-Vulcans would stay that long, Sulu has very much been the exception. Non-EC people can already make Vice Admiral in their early 50es. If they get their shot in the EC at 38, then spend 5 years and make Commodore at 43 they can make Vice Admiral in their 60es, and are at much less of a disadvantage compared to former superintendents and such.
 
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If Nash is to follow the Kirk route, then she would have to be put in charge of the Excelsior refit project, then take the newly refitted Enterprise out on a an emergency mission to stop some sort of giant alien craft that threatens the Federation.
 
I feel sort of mixed on the issue with the Explorer Corps and the rest of Starfleet. On one hand, we do need to make sure the Explorer Corps consists of the best of the best in Starfleet who can rise to the occasion. However what I DON'T want is for the Explorer Corps to turn into a Starfleet within Starfleet or a Praetorian Guard so to say.

I think that we need to give a strong message to everyone in Starfleet that the Explorer Corps is not a place where you can park your entire career in as the end result would be a hyper competent but very small elite Corps of ships and a much larger group who are barely above redshirt level. We need the people in the Explorer Corps to not only explore new areas but bring their skills and expertise to the rest of the fleet. I don't mind if Nash gets another go at the an EC slot. However, I do think she needs take a step back and spend some time passing on her experience and expertise to the rest of the fleet. With luck she may be able to develop and mentor a promising Lieutenant or two who may turn into the next Nash. It does Starfleet and the Federation no good if their best people can't pass on their skills to the next generation.

Ideally I think an EC-Qualified Starfleet Officer's Career from Ensign to Explorer Corps Candidate Captain would probably run something along the lines below:

Commissioning: Graduated in the top 5% of their class, tapped for the Explorer Corps
0-5 Years: Assigned to an Explorer Corps Ship. Midway through promoted to Lieutenant Junior Grade. Upon completion of the Five year mission promoted to Lieutenant.
6-10 Years: Assigned as an assistant department head onboard a non-EC vessel for a tour of duty. Subsequently assigned to shore duty. Promoted to Lieutenant Commander. BuPers determines if said Officer put on the Command track or not.
10-15 Years: Assigned to an Explorer Corps ship as Department Head for a Five Year Mission. Upon completion promoted to Commander and sent to Command School
16-20: Attended Command School. One to two tours of Duty as a First Officer on board a Starfleet vessel.
20-25: May be tapped for command of a non-Explorer or chosen as an First Officer on Board a Explorer Corps vessel
25+: Strong candidate for the Explorer Corps' CO Billet
 
[X][FYM] Select Captains
-[X] USS Enterprise: Captain Samhaya Mrr'shan
-[X] USS Sarek: Captain Demora Sulu
-[X] USS Miracht: Captain Langa Mbeki
 
Also the question isn't whether you are fine with a minority, it's whether you are fine with a small minority, possibly just the Vulcans. If people need to wait until 45 to get a shot and then spend 10 years in the seat they are 55 by the time they can advance to Commodore, 60-65 when they make Rear Admiral, and in their 70es before they can be considered for Vice Admiral. Only a few non-Vulcans would stay that long, Sulu has very much been the exception. Non-EC people can already make Vice Admiral in their early 50es. If they get their shot in the EC at 38, then spend 5 years and make Commodore at 43 they can make Vice Admiral in their 60es, and are at much less of a disadvantage compared to former superintendents and such.
Have you run an analysis of the people who've gotten promoted out of the Explorer Corps captain's pool? Quite a few people become candidates before 45, sometimes well before. And quite a few re promoted up and out of it before 55.And that goes double for the ones who have useful skills other than, specifically, captaincy (e.g. politics or engineering).

There are a few specific individuals whose rise through the ranks probably HAS been delayed by time spent in the Explorer Corps pool (McAdams comes to mind), but when it comes to the bigger picture, I think you may be barking at shadows.

I don't think there's a lot of evidence that the mere act of being on the Explorer Corps captain's list without receiving a command is, in and of itself, enough to delay your promotion track. Quite the opposite, given that as far as I can tell, almost everyone who was on the captain's list six or seven years ago, and didn't receive a command, is now a commodore.

If we make 10 years the average rather than the exception that means we both halve the number of former EC captains and lower their average rank, because people end up spending much longer at captain, both waiting for a posting and then in that posting. That means it gets much harder to fill our senior postings with people with EC experience. I'd much rather give everyone skilled enough (that is with a decent bonus) a 5 year turn and then let them get on with their careers. Do you want most of our rear and vice admirals to have had an EC tour, or only a small minority? Voting for ka'Sharren and Straak is vote for the latter.
Put this way. In 2315 we'll have three explorers that've had three five-year missions each, I think two that've had two, and probably about two or three more that will be on their first. Of those, even if we re-up Nash and Straak for their third and second missions, that means we'll have cycled through the Explorer Corps...

Nash, T'Lorel and Straak, Eaton, Ajam, and McAdams, Thuir and his replacement, Saavik and her replacement, and the first commanders we've appointed to two or three more fresh ships (Stargazer and, in all likelihood, at least one or two more). Assume three for the sake of argument.

So, twelve or thirteen captains. Ajam may or may not resume service- assume she does. That gives us a dozen or so highly talented senior officers propagating up into the rank structure, the first of which have already started moving. After that batch of five-year missions (the ones running in 2316) wrap up, we'll have another tranche of about seven or eight more such captains coming up for promotion.

During that time (and counting the conclusion of the five-year-missions of ships that will be wrapping up after 2315), the Explorer Corps will have racked up a total of 3(15)+2(10)+(15, I think) makes roughly 75 to 80 ship-years.

Average tenure in command of an Explorer Corps ship will be a little over six years, greatly skewed by the anomaly that is Nash ka'Sharren. The median and mode will, obviously, still be five.

By contrast, if we'd replaced Nash with someone else (who?), and replaced them and Straak this year, the average would be five instead of six, and we'd have (say) sixteen potential commodores and admirals instead of thirteen. Plus a LOT of other senior officers who we just plain never wanted in charge of an Explorer Corps ship, but who are still highly talented and competent- it's just that their skills are in areas like R&D, bureaucracy, shipbuilding, or theoretical tactics and analysis.

So the 'choice' here is between having, say, 16 senior officers with Explorer Corps experience, versus 13. This is not a very big difference. We can afford to compromise on this issue, in the interests of ALSO establishing that the Explorer Corps is a place for the very, very best of Starfleet, where even unusual individuals who don't fit the "average" template of the fleet can find a refuge as long as they're good at their jobs.
 
[X][FYM] Select Captains
-[X] USS Enterprise: Captain Samhaya Mrr'shan
-[X] USS Sarek: Captain Straak
-[X] USS Miracht: Captain Langa Mbeki
 
[X][FYM] Select Captains
-[X] USS Enterprise: Captain Samhaya Mrr'shan
-[X] USS Sarek: Captain Straak
-[X] USS Miracht: Captain Langa Mbeki


TBH, I don't really like any of the choices. The Enterprise is as much an assignment as a political statement, and frankly, I don't think the caitians really deserve it. Not yet. Samhaya, however, does. So I'm of two minds.
 
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-[x] USS Miracht: Captain Langa Mbeki
No. of Votes: 52
Nervos Belli
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aeqnai
AKuz
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Artemis1992
Ato
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kyuden
Leila Hann
Massgamer
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MS-21H 'Hawke'
Muer'ci
Muramasa
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Nix
notthepenguins
NullVoid
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-[x] USS Sarek: Captain Straak
No. of Votes: 46
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Theunderbolt
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Tylonius
UbeOne
UberJJK
Void Stalker
Winged One

-[X] USS Enterprise: Captain Samhaya Mrr'shan
No. of Votes: 33
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-[x] USS Enterprise: Nash ka'Sharren
No. of Votes: 25
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-[X] USS Sarek: Captain Demora Sulu
No. of Votes: 9
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-[X] USS Miracht: Captain T'Rinta
No. of Votes: 6
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Glassware
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-[X] USS Sarek: Captain Langa Mbeki
No. of Votes: 4
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Erandil
sebsmith
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-[X] USS Miracht: Captain Samhaya Mrr'shan
No. of Votes: 1
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-[X] USS Enterprise: Captain Langa Mbeki
No. of Votes: 1
CircleTheSkies

-[x] USS Sarek: Langa Mbeki
No. of Votes: 1
Katsuragi

-[x] USS Miracht: Demora Sulu
No. of Votes: 1
Katsuragi

[x] USS Enterprise: Samhaya Mrr'shan
No. of Votes: 1


[x] USS Sarek: Dremora Sulu
No. of Votes: 1
Night

[x] USS Miracht: Talan th'Zahliss
No. of Votes: 1
Night

The only assignment that's close is for the Enterprise.
 
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You seem to be completely missing my point. Up until now 5 years has been the norm. If we extend two of the three missions that just completed, one of them for the second time, that in itself sets a precedent. Including anything that happened under the old status quo in an average would be nonsensical for evaluating the consequences of that precedent. Everyone who prefers the job of an EC captain will ask for extensions, rather than quietly acceding to promotions, and with everyone getting used to the idea pp cost will probably be less of an issue. To some extent that already happened, Nash already set a precedent 5 years ago that led to zh'Dohlen asking the leaving Captains whether they wanted an extension or not, rather than it just being assumed they'd move on like it was the case for Eaton and T'Lorel, where no one bothered to report that they were "not putting their hand up for another round" like zh'Dohlen felt the need to report about Thuir. People who see an EC posting as just one stage of their career will be much less likely to bother applying. We'll probably still get a few 5YM without extensions, but I expect the median to be 10 years, and the average somewhere between 8 and 12.
 
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